Are the Radford's massive piss takers?

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It seems they've cruised along nicely. Thank you tax payer. 20 holidays in 1 year

Not exactly supervising it, ensuring it gets done. Wonder how easy that would be in a house with so many children around.
I am not a helicopter parent thanks

Whether or not people directly supervise their children’s homework there is no way either Radford can provide adequate help or support with homework for so many kids, which i remember needing plenty of as a teenager and I was bright and in the top set. Would some of you defending them be happy to leave your kids in childcare where there was a 1:20 staff to child ratio (seeing as Noel is busy baking the magic money pies all day)? My guess is hell no.

Not even homework, what about time for cuddles and bedtime stories and helping them get dressed or listening to their day, how can anyone do that every day for each child with so many children?

exactly!
Average cost to the state of a birth is about £7500, more for a c-section. Times 22 = £165,000
Average cost to the state of educating a child is £7,460 a year. Times 14 = £104,440 per child. Times that by 22 = £2,297,680

And that's not counting nursery subsidies, any child benefit, doctors appointments, etc.

Do people really think a small bakery would have paid more than TWO AND A HALF MILLION POUNDS in taxes? 🙄

The magic bakery 😂

They don't. It's pretty well known that the older girls become mother figures to the younger children. It's pretty sad.

Back in the olden days 1994 to 2010 the government used to pay your mortgage for you as if it were housing benefit. Given it’s in a relatively cheap area. If they were on tax credits it’s highly likely that the government basically bought them the 10 bedroom house.

Mum has imo mild learning difficulties and having babies is her thing as she doesn’t think she can offer anything else. She was targeted as a child by an adult man. It’s a shame.

Well the birth rate is falling dramatically so I don’t know what the problem is! We need young workers! If everyone had 22 children then of course it’s an issue, but there can’t be many families with this number!

And at least the Radfords will have offspring who are well socialised and used to sharing and getting along in a group. Those are all useful skills in this day and age.

I don’t know why everyone is so against them. Not every family has to be a carbon copy of the next. And everyone’s house goes through a messy stage when they have lots of toddlers about. And family houses tend to get tidier and more organised as the dc grow up. All very normal as far as I am concerned.

My grandma was the oldest of 11. She was a nanny from about age 5/6 constantly looking after babies. It was a sad childhood for most of the children and her youngest sister said she never got much attention or care.
22 is impossible!

Indeed! The pie shop that provides for all!

I don’t think they’re as loaded as everyone thinks. The dad got a speeding fine recently with a £900 fine plus court costs (I think it all added up to circa £1500) He’s paying it off over 3 months 🤷‍♀️

Child benefit before the cap has been mentioned a couple of times on this thread - there is no cap on child benefit.

The two child limit for benefits like UC does not apply to Child benefit.

The amount of CB over the years will be a staggering amount!

Not to mention the tax credits

The multiple holidays and trips out are usually content for TV, so they won't pay for those (or for the majority of them anyway). They also do quite a few ads on social media getting paid/free items from that. I don't think the bakery makes a fortune, but I do think they have other avenues for making money and freebies.

I get the impression that they don't necessarily have large sums of liquid capital in the bank, but rather they get given loads of free stuff, holidays etc. by the TV company or other 'sponsors' as and when they ask for them or, more likely, when being seen using/enjoying them will make for more exciting television or lucrative product promotion.

I personally couldn't give a shiny shit about the benefits they may or may not receive but I think it's very distasteful to have more children than you can have time for in reality. Be realistic, most families do not have that many kids - it's fairly unusual to have more than 3. And they are flogged on social media for likes and free shit.

The one documentary I watched on them showed the younger kids loving their big family but the teenagers absolutely hated it and spent all their time in their triple bunk beds (because most of them shared with at least 2 other siblings) to get away from the chaos. Says it all really.

We only have one child, and we're often conscious how our time, attention and money would have been divided if we'd ended up having two or three.

To put it bluntly, having that many children means that they WILL massively miss out on your time and attention (possibly not money/material goods if you happen to be loaded) and not receive anything like as much as they need and deserve.

This may be controversial, but I believe it to be automatically a case of deliberate child neglect, choosing to have that many, however naively well-intentioned you may be.

I think it speaks volumes that none of the older kids seem ambitious or driven in any way.

No higher education, no apprenticeships or even careers to speak of really. I don’t see any sporting achievements or musical instruments being played, none of them have excelled in drama or any extra curricular interests.

The kids used to just appear feral and weirdly anti social in the earlier days and now just seem spoilt with crap food and holidays on which they buy more Disney tat to take home.

But none of them seem to be given the basic guidance and parenting to actual make their own lives fulfilling. No doubt total lack of support/time as individuals has really impacted them and left the older kids aimless.

The girls just seem to get a boyfriend in their late teens then start having babies and get their own council house.

Well the birth rate is falling dramatically so I don’t know what the problem is! We need young workers! If everyone had 22 children then of course it’s an issue, but there can’t be many families with this number!

Workers? Ha ha, did you miss the bit where most of them are spongers?

All that money to go on holiday every few weeks and not one of them has bought/rented their own home, they are all in social housing. The latest one to have a baby, I think she is about 21 got her own flat. How is that fair when they spend tens of thousands every year going on holiday to America and Dubai etc?

Interesting... considering that the older kids will know very well what it was like when there were far fewer of them; whereas the younger ones won't ever have known anything different from being part of a massive family.

When they were first on TV (I think about 10 years ago) I'm pretty sure they said Noel earned under the CB threshold.

At the time they "only" had 15 kids but even then the maths didn't add up. Thry spent 250/wk on food (which is not a lot for that many people, even then, but adds up to 13k over a year) ....150 per child on birthday...and then Xmas presents. All the teens had phones, several had games consoles, they got a new pram each time a baby was born....And all this was covered by the pie shop. That's before taking into account mortgage, bills, clothes (they don't hand down clothes) fuel, school trips etc etc.

In one programme they were laughing that a tv had been broken (so add new tv to the shopping list) and a hole punched in the wall , and they had no idea who it was or how it happened. Having lots of kids isn't the same as parenting lots of kids and I just don't think its possible to support that many children practically or emotionally. or financially if you're relying on 1 wage from a small pie shop

Obviously now they've got multiple social media and tv income streams but some people are still deluded that they're supported by a pie shop....which if it was the case, someone self employed supporting about 15 people (if we assume the older kids pay their own way ) would likely not be able to take that many holidays away from work.

She was abused from 13 onwards so she's mentally stunted at 13. It's so obvious the way she's always falling out with her children and unfriending /blocking them. The kind of things you'd expect a teenager to do 🤦‍♀️I heard there was a fight at Millie's wedding recently. Not the happy family they like to portray.

I know that they fund their own lifestyle themselves and aren't scrounging, however, I feel like they quite often come across as bragging which is why I'm not keen on them.

The getting new baby stuff every time is insane.

I can understand if you end up with a surprise baby ten years after you've given away or sold the pram and cot etc.; but they very clearly know what their MO has been for a very long time, and that they'll continue having more and more babies until she physically cannot have any more.

Even then, they'll obviously be having shed-loads of baby grandchildren needing the equipment!

I presume the baby gear companies must just keep giving them new stuff every time, so they can be seen on TV using (and thus promoting) the latest model.

Obviously, it's their choice, but in the city where I used to live, there was a street in the centre with about 6 separately-owned antique shops, pretty much next door to each other.

I always used to be baffled as to why anybody would see a row of 5 antique shops and think "Hey, I know exactly what this street needs right here!"

Similarly, I just cannot get the mindset of already having 6, 8, 12, 15, 20 children and then, still every time, thinking "Ooh, I think I know what our household is missing" !