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Child home alone at 11

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Birchtree1 · 16/12/2024 13:24

We had a mediation session as my longterm partner and I are in the process of splitting up.
My OH works around 60 hours a week which is why I work part time (30 hours a week) I do school drop offs and pick ups when I am not working, otherwise I am paying for a childminder.
We were talking about moving ( we both want to) and the nature of my job is that there is no 9-5 or around the school hours. Work hours are usually in the 8/9am to 6/7 pm bracket. There is no choice.
My oldest will start secondary and mediator said it would be fine for them to get home on bus ( or whatever) let themselves in and be alone for 3-4 hours.
This seems weird to me? Surely that's a lot for a child at this age in this day and time?
Also....we are waiting for an asd/adhd assessment for child as he struggles big time.
So am I being unreasonable to say this in not a feasible option? As in they can't go home from school and be alone for 3-4 hours at 11 years old?

OP posts:
caringcarer · 17/12/2024 02:47

If the house is in both your names you'd be entitled to 50 percent of the equity unless you have unequal shares in property. Never take out a mortgage that is 4x your salary or you'll never know another minutes peace of mind. Your ex will pay maintenance based on how many overnights he has DC. If he has them say Sunday and Monday daytime and overnight it is his responsibility to take them to and from school and feed and care for them on both those days. He would drop them to school on Tuesday morning and you'd collect Tuesday after school. What you earn has no bearing in how much maintenance he will pay. Make sure he realises this.

caringcarer · 17/12/2024 02:49

Birchtree1 · 16/12/2024 13:35

Currently I work 3 days a week but I would have to go full time once different location so it would be 4 days a week.
In regards of their personality I have holes in walls, stab marks from knife in sofas ( when dad looked after them) to list just a couple of things.

So there are a lot of you who would leave your 11 year old to gethome by themselves and be alone after school until 7pm at the earliest?

I used to get holes in walls too OP and I was in the house with them. I wouldn't leave mine alone.

caringcarer · 17/12/2024 02:54

Birchtree1 · 16/12/2024 18:38

It is about the financial split too. As in house only. As I am not entitled to anything else. But I have asked for 50% of equity in house. He doesn't want me to have this.

You are on deeds so make sure you get 50 percent of equity.

Natsku · 17/12/2024 04:50

Birchtree1 · 16/12/2024 13:35

Currently I work 3 days a week but I would have to go full time once different location so it would be 4 days a week.
In regards of their personality I have holes in walls, stab marks from knife in sofas ( when dad looked after them) to list just a couple of things.

So there are a lot of you who would leave your 11 year old to gethome by themselves and be alone after school until 7pm at the earliest?

Should be fine for most 11 year olds but doesn't sound so fine in the case of your child.

Where I am you have to do it from 9 years old (but at least I'll be home by 5, and my OH might be home earlier, but school might finish at 12 some days), there's no afterschool care after 2nd grade, except for children with additional needs significant enough to not allow them to be unsupervised.

RedHelenB · 17/12/2024 05:19

VegTrug · 16/12/2024 14:50

Absolutely not! That’s neglect. It’s not the bloody 1980s! An 11yr old does not have the ability to make critical decisions in a crisis and more importantly, is much more easily manipulated & influenced by someone with ill intent.
I realise most of us walked home by that age but not these days. The UK population has increased by more than 13 million since the 80s and with that extra 13 million people, comes more predators & the like.

I’d rather be called paranoid/over protective than be bereaved, frankly.

It's not neglect.

Marblesbackagain · 17/12/2024 05:34

RedHelenB · 17/12/2024 05:19

It's not neglect.

If it is below the national guidelines I feel it is fair to classify it as neglectful parenting.

HappyHedgehog247 · 17/12/2024 05:42

Don't let Ex or mediator bully you about what they think is best for you and your child.

Birchtree1 · 17/12/2024 07:16

Thank you all for your replies.
I don't think I could leave them by themselves from year 7.
I think they would be okay for an hour if I am home and have to nip out once they are settled with I pad but even with this I would worry due to their personality.
But also I guess it's kind of irrelevant as I also have an 8 year old.
It was just brought up in mediation meeting and I was really surprised.

OP posts:
curlycurlymoo · 17/12/2024 07:39

That seems an awfully long time. I don't think I'd let mine. I let her stay by herself for half an hour at a time. But that's it.

Daisy12Maisie · 17/12/2024 09:21

Depends on the child. Both of mine were very independent and loved time on their own from about that age onwards. I think it's fine but it wouldn't be fine if you had a child that was particularly anxious about it.

AllYearsAround · 17/12/2024 09:36

Marblesbackagain · 16/12/2024 22:19

After school clubs in the school, activity clubs outside school system, child minders who similar aged children or I get someone in who is there but is doing other things so making a dinner, a housekeeping,/ cleaning but happy to supervise him as he gets himself snack does his homework etc.

They don't need minding as such, but they do I feel need an adult on hand for their safety and peace of mind.

Definitely sounds like a different set up to England - childminders here don't take secondary age children generally and after school clubs are usually an hour max.
Outside school clubs tend to be in the evenings for that age group rather than after school.

Marblesbackagain · 17/12/2024 10:52

AllYearsAround · 17/12/2024 09:36

Definitely sounds like a different set up to England - childminders here don't take secondary age children generally and after school clubs are usually an hour max.
Outside school clubs tend to be in the evenings for that age group rather than after school.

I am in Dublin in a fairy typical middle-class area with most families having two parents working. After-school is present in a lot of primary schools from end of class to 6pm.

Primary is up to age 12 here also which does mean it is easier if lucky in area you live has the space. The expectation would be they would require an adult presence rather than specifically childcare, if that makes sense.

My son is in secondary there are clubs every evening free of charge up to 5/6 pm. Class finishes earlier here so my son finishes at 220 twice a week and 320 thrice. There is usually a supervised study option, sports, social or hobby based.

This to me makes sense. Children and or teens don't reach milestones at the same stage and they don't go from supervision to none overnight. In my opinion this format means families can work towards independence as it fits your teen.

It also provides a bit of a small leveller for families with individuals who may have SEN considerations to be factored in.

I have a very bright 11 year old, no bother to him to be alone behaviour wise etc but I quite frankly don't want him alone.

Fizbosshoes · 17/12/2024 12:58

My DD was alone for maybe 5 or 6 hours some days in school holidays, age 11. Not ideal but i couldnt take all holidays off work. She preferred it to being the oldest in a holiday club. Both kids were at home from maybe 4-6pm at age 11

But appreciate it's more complicated if they have ASD.

RawBloomers · 17/12/2024 18:44

Marblesbackagain · 17/12/2024 05:34

If it is below the national guidelines I feel it is fair to classify it as neglectful parenting.

Nice bit of arrogant cultural imperialism.

Marblesbackagain · 17/12/2024 19:40

RawBloomers · 17/12/2024 18:44

Nice bit of arrogant cultural imperialism.

🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️ sweetheart I am Irish we don't do imperialism we leave that to the UK

RawBloomers · 17/12/2024 19:48

Marblesbackagain · 17/12/2024 19:40

🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️ sweetheart I am Irish we don't do imperialism we leave that to the UK

Just because you weren’t very good at it as a country, doesn’t mean you didn’t try. You did. Nor does it mean you weren’t being an arse applying Irish guideline to someone in a different country.

Marblesbackagain · 17/12/2024 20:11

RawBloomers · 17/12/2024 19:48

Just because you weren’t very good at it as a country, doesn’t mean you didn’t try. You did. Nor does it mean you weren’t being an arse applying Irish guideline to someone in a different country.

Oh dear you really don't know our history. I would suggest you acquire a book wrote by a non UK person.

And applying a country who up to a few years ago where aligned is simply good practice.

Ot sounds like you are frustrated and need a time out. Off you pop for your nap you appear cranky

RawBloomers · 17/12/2024 22:15

Not sure where you get frustrated from. I wasn’t the one who tried to pretend that the history of another nation meant I hadn’t been an arse. You have.

Marblesbackagain · 18/12/2024 01:48

RawBloomers · 17/12/2024 22:15

Not sure where you get frustrated from. I wasn’t the one who tried to pretend that the history of another nation meant I hadn’t been an arse. You have.

Oh behave honestly what are you like. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Eenameenadeeka · 18/12/2024 02:11

I definitely wouldn't be okay with it

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