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Attitudes towards breastfeeding a toddler

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Jaffaroo · 15/12/2024 22:31

My baby is 6 months old and is exclusively breastfed. She was premature and it was quite a struggle to establish feeding but we got there in the end. I’ve had so many positive comments regarding breastfeeding my baby and my husbands family especially have been very supportive of this.

Yesterday, we were at a family party with my husbands family and I had a few people ask when I was planning on stopping, which surprised me. They said that my baby is too grown up now to be breastfeeding. Later on, an aunt asked me how long I planned on breastfeeding for. I said that I have no plans and will take it as it comes and said that the world health organisation recommend breastfeeding for up to 2 years and beyond.

This was met with gasps of horror, laughs and shocked comments from some family members. Even my husband chimed in ‘you can’t breastfeed a 2 year old, that’s just weird’ which really surprised me! His aunts all joined in, echoing how ridiculous it would be to breastfeed a 2 year old.

I find it interesting that breastfeeding is celebrated until they deem the baby is getting too big or too old for it.

AIBU to be quite shocked at the change in attitude towards breastfeeding all of a sudden now that my baby is a bit older?

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EmmaEmEmz · 15/12/2024 23:49

MinSpy · 15/12/2024 23:39

How do you know that though?

(I can't say too much because of confidentiality, but I once worked with a client who breastfed beyond the age of 11. Quite a bit beyond. In his case I'd suggest that was abuse. But his mother may have believed it's what he wanted and needed and was healthy? I think at some point a parent has to say enough is enough and this is no longer ok. For me that's by about 3. For others it might be about 5. But I'd say in all but the most extreme cases (such as my client), parents will have a cut off they would not go beyond....

There's always going to be some outliers that really push it, but the scientifically accepted answer is that most children will self wean between 2-7, with obvious variables.

If my daughter for any reason was still trying to feed past 7, I would be gently encouraging her to stop by then because I think that upper scientific number would be my cut off (after me saying I don't have one!). I don't think my daughter will be feeding by that point as we are down to maybe 2 or 3 minutes a day, if they.

11? Would be too old for me but on a surface level I wouldn't judge, although I'd personally find it a little odd. Different cultures have different beliefs as well, and there could be other reasons why it's OK for them...of course this is without knowing any back story.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 15/12/2024 23:49

EmmaEmEmz · 15/12/2024 23:34

Once children lose their milk teeth its very difficult for them to get the correct latch, which is why you will rarely find a child over the age of 7 or so who breastfeeds.

I don't have a mental cut off because I know within a couple of years she will have stopped anyway.

I never really considered a "cut off" time although I did wean my eldest two at a year old. I had reasons for that. Would I do it if I had my time again? No. I'd have wanted them to self-wean when they were ready.

MinSpy · 15/12/2024 23:49

Chonk · 15/12/2024 23:44

Breastfeeding an almost 8 year old is so inappropriate. Why couldn't you provide comfort in a different way?

I agree and think at 8 it's potentially abuse.

I'm so curious what people.thunknthe cut off should be and why people have different cut off ages in mind. For me I think if the child is aware, has language and can remember/may be able to recall as an adult, then it's too old to be breastfeeding. But how do parents make the distinction between 5, 7, 9, 11, 13? What makes it ok to breastfeed at 6 but not 10?

If people that breastfed til 8 felt their children still wanted to breastfeed, at what age would they say no? Why?

At what age does this become sexual.abuse?

Snugglemonkey · 15/12/2024 23:51

YIP · 15/12/2024 22:48

Toddlers don’t need breast milk as they get all the nutrients from the food they eat. I would say breastfeeding for the first year is fine and possibly a bit longer, but I think more often than not, it’s the mother that doesn’t want it to end for emotional reasons in the guise of ‘breast is best’, aye but there becomes a point when that’s moot.

They want it though! Dc1 was plagued by allergies, no diary, soy, egg, nuts and lots of other stuff. So the only alternative to my milk was oat milk, but he was also low weight and oat milk is really not v calorific.

I fed him until he has 3 1/2 and we had worked through a lot of his allergies. His dietician was very much encouraging of this.

Dc2 has no allergies (that we know of). Eill nkor drink any other kind of milk. Just loves boob. She spits out other types of milk. She will drink water sometimes, but as a last resort. She has snaffled the odd sip of dc1 diluted juice, and would be super happy to be given some of that, but I am not going that way with a 2 year old.

I will continue to feed her until she wants to stop. It is the first thing she thinks of in the morning and last at night. She wants it when sleepy, or if she has not been with me for a bit, due to work etc. She wants it when upset, or hurt, both physically or mentally.

She loves it so much. I could be doing without it tbh, but we signed us up for this. Not the kids, so I won't just remove it. It has warded off illness, comforted so many falls/huffs/grave injustices. It is the best distraction from illicit items or sadness'.

I do not know when we will stop. I happy for her to tell me

EmmaEmEmz · 15/12/2024 23:51

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 15/12/2024 23:49

I never really considered a "cut off" time although I did wean my eldest two at a year old. I had reasons for that. Would I do it if I had my time again? No. I'd have wanted them to self-wean when they were ready.

Two is amazing!

I'm allowing my daughter to self wean. I've followed the do not ask, do not refuse method since she was about 3, although I do refuse sometimes if I don't want to, and she respects that boundary.

MinSpy · 15/12/2024 23:52

EmmaEmEmz · 15/12/2024 23:49

There's always going to be some outliers that really push it, but the scientifically accepted answer is that most children will self wean between 2-7, with obvious variables.

If my daughter for any reason was still trying to feed past 7, I would be gently encouraging her to stop by then because I think that upper scientific number would be my cut off (after me saying I don't have one!). I don't think my daughter will be feeding by that point as we are down to maybe 2 or 3 minutes a day, if they.

11? Would be too old for me but on a surface level I wouldn't judge, although I'd personally find it a little odd. Different cultures have different beliefs as well, and there could be other reasons why it's OK for them...of course this is without knowing any back story.

Thanks. That's really interesting.

I'm curious at what age it would become abuse? Or be seen as abuse?

Would you gently encourage stopping at 7 simply because of the research? Or is it for other reasons such as the child seeming more aware? Developing more? more likely to remember? Etc..?

YIP · 15/12/2024 23:52

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 15/12/2024 23:34

I daresay it's because you are wrong, just hazarding a wild guess....

Wrong in what sense? 😂

Breastfeed your kids until they’re 11 if you want!

yeh general consensus would be that breastfeeding a 3 year old is OTT. It’s not a right or wrong answer as it’s not illegal but most people in the real word would find it odd, especially if you done it in public. Behind closed doors at home no norm would know so they wouldn’t care but a 3 year old in public is weird!

Golaz · 15/12/2024 23:52

YIP · 15/12/2024 23:44

I’m saying I find it odd women prolong breast feeding for years when the child can get its dietry requirements from solid. I’m not arguing because that’s right, it’s a fact.

If mothers chose to BF beyond’s say 18 months that’s fine but don’t use the guise “Breast is best” as that no longer works at 4!

Edited

Breastfeeding isn’t just about nutrition though. It’s about comfort. And some babies aren’t ready to have that cut off at 18 months or whenever you’ve decided it should be.
Breastfeeding is a two way process, and it can be really difficult for to wean a child off before they are ready to let go.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 15/12/2024 23:53

ReggaetonLente · 15/12/2024 23:43

I fed my kids til they were 2.5 and 3. I really couldn’t give a shit what anyone else thought.

The only person to make comments was SIL who was/is a pretty piss poor parent imo and I think her nastiness came from jealousy.

You will get all sorts of comments about everything, sleep, starting solids, behaviour. Just nod and smile and do what you like. You don’t have to do things the way everyone else does just because they say so.

None of the women who berated me about my choices for my babies have particularly healthy relationships with their own kids, interestingly.

I think my SIL was jealous/somehow felt threatened/I don't know!

We went to meet our nephew in hospital as a newborn. She described her attempts to breastfeed but her bottlefeeding chart was hanging off the end of her bed lol!

I've no idea why she thought I'd care in the slightest!

YIP · 15/12/2024 23:54

Golaz · 15/12/2024 23:52

Breastfeeding isn’t just about nutrition though. It’s about comfort. And some babies aren’t ready to have that cut off at 18 months or whenever you’ve decided it should be.
Breastfeeding is a two way process, and it can be really difficult for to wean a child off before they are ready to let go.

That’s the point, some mothers seem to want it progress.

HomeAgainPlease · 15/12/2024 23:55

YIP · 15/12/2024 22:48

Toddlers don’t need breast milk as they get all the nutrients from the food they eat. I would say breastfeeding for the first year is fine and possibly a bit longer, but I think more often than not, it’s the mother that doesn’t want it to end for emotional reasons in the guise of ‘breast is best’, aye but there becomes a point when that’s moot.

This is hilarious 😆 so they don’t get nutrients from the cows milk they drink as part of their diet? You can’t seriously think the mothers get more emotionally than a toddler does from breastfeeding? They get a sleep cue, comfort, quite calm time to wind down, antibodies to fight off bugs (that start to appear in breast milk within 20 minutes of mum coming into contact with a virus or bacteria). All those benefits don’t diminish as the child ages.

Bunny44 · 15/12/2024 23:55

Some babies stop on their own after 8 months but I'm still feeding mine at 15 months and he doesn't want to stop which is really hard as I have to travel for work now so I'm doing a lot of pumping.

I'm kind of fed up but he's got a dairy allergy so think alternatives aren't ideal.

It's also hard in public when he's trying to lift up my top especially in awkward locations and then gets distracted while feeding and exposes me 🤦🏻‍♀️

I'd love to feed longer if I wasn't working but I'd quite like to stop now because of the awkwardness of it all.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 15/12/2024 23:56

It's none of their business. I'd say up to 3 is totally normal.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 15/12/2024 23:56

MinSpy · 15/12/2024 23:35

There really isn't a right and wrong though..you just both have different opinions surely??

Nope, not an opinion!

To say, "Why does it upset you to know I think breastfeeding past 1.5 years is primarily for the mother’s benefit and breastfeeding a baby is not the same as a toddlers…." is just utterly wrong! Complete bullshit in fact.

HoppingPavlova · 15/12/2024 23:56

They said that my baby is too grown up now to be breastfeeding.

They said this about a 6mo baby? That’s so bizarre.

The thing with WHO recommendations is that they are global. So, they need to make recommendations that will cover extreme ends of a spectrum, think villages in third world countries affected by drought for decades, widespread malnourishment, lack of clean water etc. They can’t make different recommendations for differing scenarios so cover the lowest base so to speak. It’s fine for people to do what fits with the actual scenario they and baby/toddler are in.

slightlydistrac · 15/12/2024 23:56

HealthRobinsonCrusoe · 15/12/2024 22:52

I assume women who breastfeed children over one have attachment issues or are trying to assert exclusivity Vs other caregivers

I wouldn't say it I'd just think it

How do you think the human race existed for millennia? Human females have mammary glands just like all other mammals, feeding offspring for the use of. That is literally what they are designed for.

BF wasn't for me, but other people have every right to feed their babies however they wish, and no-one else has the right to criticise those choices.

Golaz · 15/12/2024 23:56

YIP · 15/12/2024 23:54

That’s the point, some mothers seem to want it progress.

Eh? Thats not what I said at all.
Mothers don’t want it to progress. Babies do.

Bunny44 · 15/12/2024 23:57

Bunny44 · 15/12/2024 23:55

Some babies stop on their own after 8 months but I'm still feeding mine at 15 months and he doesn't want to stop which is really hard as I have to travel for work now so I'm doing a lot of pumping.

I'm kind of fed up but he's got a dairy allergy so think alternatives aren't ideal.

It's also hard in public when he's trying to lift up my top especially in awkward locations and then gets distracted while feeding and exposes me 🤦🏻‍♀️

I'd love to feed longer if I wasn't working but I'd quite like to stop now because of the awkwardness of it all.

Also I find that I'm giving him lots of nutrients, antibodies and comfort makes me happy too. It's just difficult as he wants it all the time and to feed to sleep.

HomeAgainPlease · 15/12/2024 23:57

Nursingadvice · 15/12/2024 22:50

I would never comment to anybody, I fully understand the reasons, evidence and so on. I’ve attended extensive breastfeeding training sessions for my job (nhs) and actively promote breastfeeding BUT personally, it wasn’t for me. I couldn’t bring myself to do it.
I’ve been around friends breastfeeding toddlers and I know it’s my problem, and again, I’d never comment, but I do find it weird when they can talk and ask for it etc. I fully understand why people do it and I know it’s recommended but I just can’t shake that feeling. It just seems so unnecessary and it makes me feel uncomfortable. But it’s not me doing it so none of my business.

It’s so sad isn’t it that we are socialised to feel like this. It’s so, so common as well. At least you recognise that it’s about you and wouldn’t start telling people it’s weird and they shouldn’t be doing it. No one should feel they have to breastfeed at all, it’s got to be something mum decides for herself completely.

cherish123 · 15/12/2024 23:57

EmmaEmEmz · 15/12/2024 23:12

It's also for comfort, and you can damn well be sure if my child needed comforting I'd feed her in public

There are other ways to comfort the child.

Snugglemonkey · 15/12/2024 23:57

cherish123 · 15/12/2024 23:03

I breast-fed for 2.5yrs but I would say, it's nit that common. I also think after 1, you need to keep this to the house. After 6 months, you don't need to feed for hunger, it's only fir nutrition so you don't need to do it in public.

I need to respond to my child. I need to do what suits us. I do not need to do anything different for anyone else's comfort. I will feed my child when and how I please.

YIP · 15/12/2024 23:58

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 15/12/2024 23:35

It's not a "lifestyle choice" - it's the child's choice!

At 4 it’s not! There is a point we say no enough is enough!

Golaz · 15/12/2024 23:58

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 15/12/2024 23:56

Nope, not an opinion!

To say, "Why does it upset you to know I think breastfeeding past 1.5 years is primarily for the mother’s benefit and breastfeeding a baby is not the same as a toddlers…." is just utterly wrong! Complete bullshit in fact.

Exactly. Total bullshit.

Golaz · 16/12/2024 00:00

cherish123 · 15/12/2024 23:57

There are other ways to comfort the child.

Next time my toddler old is crying for me to feed her, I’ll be sure to call you up so you can tell her that.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 16/12/2024 00:00

YIP · 15/12/2024 23:52

Wrong in what sense? 😂

Breastfeed your kids until they’re 11 if you want!

yeh general consensus would be that breastfeeding a 3 year old is OTT. It’s not a right or wrong answer as it’s not illegal but most people in the real word would find it odd, especially if you done it in public. Behind closed doors at home no norm would know so they wouldn’t care but a 3 year old in public is weird!

Edited

You are wrong because you are trying to insinuate that mothers are doing it for their own reasons rather than for the child, which just isn't the case!

For the record, I wouldn't feed a child until 11 and I'd find it most peculiar that a child that age would want to breastfeed.

I don't think it's fair to continue to breastfeed a schoolgoing child but other than that, knock your socks off!