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AIBU? Boyfriends Christmas Night out

258 replies

Alessoutingname · 14/12/2024 04:34

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I’ve been with my boyfriend over a year. Both mid thirties, own homes (although he seems incapable of spending any time away from me). Mostly happy relationship apart from the fact he’s very codependent.

I don’t know if I’m feeling this way because I’m at the point where I very much need a couple of nights and days away from him or if he’s massively overstepped a personal boundary. I fear the latter.

Backstory, I don’t really like being around drunk people (I do socially drink but rarely). Grew up with an alcoholic father so I’m always on edge and generally feel unsafe around drunk men in particular as a result of my childhood.

Boyfriend comes back to mine at around 1.30am, this is fine. He’s very drunk. Gets into bed and starts the usual drunk nonsense nonstop talking and repeating himself. Mildly annoying but ok. He says something along the lines of “you best not try have s€x with me tonight,” I reply jokingly “I doubt you’d be able to get it up anyway.” For context, I was in bed with just my pants on because I was warm.

The next part is what has shocked me. He proceeded to take his boxer shorts off and intimately touch me. I told him to stop and put his boxers back on. He didn’t. He kept going. He bit my shoulder and I had to be quite forceful and state “I am not consenting to this” to make it ABUNDANTLY clear to him. Not something I ever thought I’d have to nor wanted to do.

He only stopped because I made an excuse to go downstairs. When I returned to bed he had his boxers back on but was touching me again. I ended up shouting at him.

In the end I’ve felt so uncomfortable I’ve came to my guest bedroom.

I’m upset with myself for a number of reasons. Mainly that I didn’t ring him a taxi to send him home after he made me feel so uncomfortable but I’d worry he would come to some type of harm due to his level of intoxication. I’m upset that another person who I trusted has made me feel violated in my own home, in my own bed and that I’ve felt I need to sleep in another room while he snores loudly in my lovely king sized bed!

I do love him and I’m possibly overthinking/reacting but right now I don’t ever want to be around him when he’s drunk ever again. I feel like he’s royally f#cked up and irreparably ruined our relationship.

How do I approach this in the morning? I will certainly be addressing it with him and do not want to be around him. He will be unfit to drive for a considerable time. Currently I’m thinking that I’ll be leaving him home and telling him to arrange a lift to collect his car and belongings from my home.

AIBU to feel this way?

OP posts:
Brefugee · 14/12/2024 10:44

possibleusername · 14/12/2024 10:16

@SmileEachDay sorry, I am not sure taking your pants off or refusing to put them back on is sexual assault.

you seriously need help. Really.

BriannaCranston · 14/12/2024 10:45

possibleusername · 14/12/2024 10:16

@SmileEachDay sorry, I am not sure taking your pants off or refusing to put them back on is sexual assault.

So if I walked up to you and pulled your pants down without consent you wouldn't class that as sexual assault? You have a very skewed view of the world.

InformerYaNoSayDaddyMeSnowMeIGoBlameALickyBoom · 14/12/2024 10:47

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It sounds like that poster is just trying to get exact details for their own twisted purposes.

They keep asking for more and more detailed explanations, it's pretty disgusting.

Brefugee · 14/12/2024 10:49

TriciaMcMillan · 14/12/2024 10:29

Without wanting to be the thread police, I wonder if validating and supporting the OP (which I think most of us are trying to do) is best served by not giving @possibleusername any more air.

i think it is very important, for OP and for any lurkers just reading along, that we call each and every rape apologist each and every time they post that dangerous bullshit.

Blueybingobanditchilli · 14/12/2024 10:50

OP I’d be getting someone round this morning for support. Wake him up, get his stuff together, take his key away and throw him out. Have you actually seen this house he suddenly bought that he hardly ever stays in? He showed you his true colours last night.

BlondeFool · 14/12/2024 10:54

Urgh. He's dangerous. And biting you. Outrageous.

Hopefully he's gone. Please get your keys back. Hope you are ok

MothralovesGojira · 14/12/2024 10:59

Taking his key back isn't enough as he could have easily got another cut as a 'spare'. OP needs to change the locks immediately or she won't feel truly safe.

Planesmistakenforstars · 14/12/2024 11:02

I'm so sorry this happened to you OP, you must be in deep shock. But however he is when he wakes up, whether he remembers or not, whether he's sorry or not - he attempted to rape you and would have done if you hadn't got away from him. I don't see how you can ever feel safe with him now, which is the lowest possible bar for sleeping next to someone.

And sorry for continuing the derail, but the rape apologists are always shocking but sadly never surprising. Comments like this are not made about any other type of crime. I really don't think we should continue to have jury trials for rape or sexual assault cases (the very few of them that get that far,) since so many men, and some women, really do just see women as something to have sex with when men want.

slashlover · 14/12/2024 11:03

possibleusername · 14/12/2024 10:11

@SmileEachDay what is 'sexually touching'?Ask million people and you get million answers.

It was not conclusive from the OP first post in my option if his sexual gestures and advances where unacceptable to her because she was upset his was drunk, he came to her house so late or indeed their nature crosses a boundary which made her feel unsafe and abused. She did not refer to rape or sexual assault but rather that she needs to be loud and clear , perhaps as he was drunk. It was then the barrage of comments by others who so decisively start framing the event as rape and act of sexual violence with little qualifications.

I doesn't matter why they were unacceptable. Because he was drunk, because it was a Friday, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHY.

She said no SEVERAL TIMES then had to remove herself from the situation to get him to stop.

TriciaMcMillan · 14/12/2024 11:05

Brefugee · 14/12/2024 10:49

i think it is very important, for OP and for any lurkers just reading along, that we call each and every rape apologist each and every time they post that dangerous bullshit.

I absolutely agree with you, but I think we've all done that, and it was overwhelming the thread, so I was merely suggesting we know focus on the OP

Fortunately MNHQ have zapped the troll posts now anyway. Thank you HQ.

MILLYmo0se · 14/12/2024 11:09

Being drunk does not make you deaf, he clearly heard you shouting you were not consenting, ignored you and then attempted to have sex with you a second time when you came back into the room. Up to now he has been a suffocating co-dependant twit, he has now majorly crossed boundaries and if you don't end this now what's the garauntee you will be able to stop him next time.
Think what you life is going to be like every time he drinks from now on, you are going to be actively planning ways to keep him from raping you.......... That's no way to live

Wheredidileavemycarkeys · 14/12/2024 11:13

possibleusername · 14/12/2024 10:11

@SmileEachDay what is 'sexually touching'?Ask million people and you get million answers.

It was not conclusive from the OP first post in my option if his sexual gestures and advances where unacceptable to her because she was upset his was drunk, he came to her house so late or indeed their nature crosses a boundary which made her feel unsafe and abused. She did not refer to rape or sexual assault but rather that she needs to be loud and clear , perhaps as he was drunk. It was then the barrage of comments by others who so decisively start framing the event as rape and act of sexual violence with little qualifications.

What part of “if you say no and they continue anyway it’s assault” is confusing you?

LBFseBrom · 14/12/2024 11:15

I think your relationship with this man must end now, op. It will happen again if you keep going with him. He has his own place, let him stay in it.

You can do better, much better.

Alessoutingname · 14/12/2024 11:17

He’s gone.

He admitted what he done but didn’t realise how it made me feel and apologised profusely and was noticeably upset.

I left for a short while hoping he would have packed himself up and left on my return. To my shock he was sat on my sofa when I returned!

I told him that he needed to leave. That I’m disgusted that someone I should have been able to trust has done this to me.

Naturally he’s promised the world and more.

I’ve said that I need time and space to come to terms not only with what’s happened but the massive breach of trust.

I do have plenty of support if and when I choose to confide in them. I haven’t just yet and probably won’t for some time. I tend to silently process these things and when I’ve came to terms with it I tell my nearest and dearest.

I have good security at home with CCTV, if he steps on my drive there will be an audible warning. I also have an intruder alarm system.

I’m fairly confident he will not turn up to my house. But then again I was fairly confident he wouldn’t attempt to sexually assault me but here we are!

Thank you to those who’ve offered kind words of support. To the minority of commenters who seem to be a tad twisted, seek help!

OP posts:
BlondeFool · 14/12/2024 11:18

Change the intruder alarm code now so he has no access!

Hope you're ok. Stay strong x

LBFseBrom · 14/12/2024 11:20

BlondeFool · 14/12/2024 11:18

Change the intruder alarm code now so he has no access!

Hope you're ok. Stay strong x

That.

I'm glad he has gone. Hopefully he has learned his lesson but that's not your problem.

You will get past this, op, and move on. Good luck.

category12 · 14/12/2024 11:21

Glad he's gone.

Him needing to be shown the door reveals he's still not taking it seriously and that he still thinks your boundaries are nothing.

EnjoyingTheSilence · 14/12/2024 11:23

Change your locks and security code today

Daleksatemyshed · 14/12/2024 11:26

You've done the right thing Op, trust is a fragile thing and he's broken it. You've asked for space and time, how he reacts to that will be telling, if he leaves you alone then fine but if he constantly tries to wear you down with messages then that's just another red flag.

Harrumphhhh · 14/12/2024 11:28

You’ve done the right thing OP.

Give yourself space and time to decide what you want to happen next.

NoTouch · 14/12/2024 11:29

30+ years with dh, who has a higher libido than me, and I have NEVER (sober or drunk) had to forcibly tell him to back off sexually, he recognises and respects the signals/body language.

What happened last night, along with this uncomfortable codependence, isn't right.

DepartingRadish · 14/12/2024 11:31

Well done OP. Now that he's gone, tell him not to come back. Promising you everything is meaningless - words are words, actions show you who someone really is.

If you feel yourself wobbling, then ask yourself if you'd ever feel safe sleeping in the same bed as him again? Or if you'd ever trust him to stop if you told him no?

Jagoda · 14/12/2024 11:35

You aren’t over reacting.

He isn’t trustworthy and I can’t see a way back from this. So sorry.

ItOnlyTakesTwoMinutes · 14/12/2024 11:36

I’m so sorry this happened to you. He has assaulted you and there’s no excuse. I hope you get the help and support you need as and when you are ready for it.

Greengagesnfennel · 14/12/2024 11:37

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 14/12/2024 08:04

I'm so sorry OP.
This struck me - within hours of you stating your boundaries and trying to reclaim your own space, he's assaulting you. In your bed.
I'm sure that he will play the part of the remorseful idiot this morning, but this is part of who he is, however well he normally hides it. He was showing you that he thinks he's in control.
You say you are strong and independent and I'm sure you are, yet this man spends nearly every night at your place. And you don't want him to. But because he's so "lovely" you haven't managed to maintain your boundaries. He's found a way of bypassing your defences. It's the "lovely" ones that scare me.

I think this is a very good point and one to consider seriously OP.

This was a test of how far he has you under control. He knows he has you if you accept this. I’m sorry but you have no choice but to end it now.

i hope you managed to get the key before you threw him out. He sounds dangerous.

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