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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

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ClairDeLaLune · 18/12/2024 09:05

Your sister MADE MONEY out of your shit situation. That was a despicable thing to do. She totally took advantage of you and she’s trying to do so again. You don’t owe her anything. I wouldn’t even give her the refurb money.

Also - putting 3 kids through a family break-up because she’s a bit bored? She sounds totally selfish. The kids will be worse off emotionally as a result of her leaving him, I wouldn’t want to be instrumental in that.

BuildbyNumbere · 18/12/2024 09:38

How on earth did she help you? Let you live in a van in her garage, run about after her and pay over the odds in rent for the privilege?!?
Tell her she can borrow your van if she needs a place to live.

northernbeee · 18/12/2024 09:44

When I first started reading your message I thought, yeah you are a bit mean not to share it with your sister .. BUT the further I got into your message, I am flabbergasted she's asking for some of your money. Do not feel bad in any way and 100% do not give her a penny!!!

CosyLemur · 18/12/2024 10:41

Maybe tell your father the true extent of why you left your ex and that your sister knew and made you stay with him until you'd not only managed to do up the van but also have enough rent for her to allow it. And that you had to do all the families chores on top!
Your father and other relatives probably think that it was rent free!

Vodkamummy · 18/12/2024 12:20

She sounds like a 1st class c*!! I'm sorry but I'd dump that toxic waste

74Violette · 18/12/2024 12:42

Vodkamummy · 18/12/2024 12:20

She sounds like a 1st class c*!! I'm sorry but I'd dump that toxic waste

This. Your sister has treated you terribly OP. Please don't let her manipulate a penny out of you, use that money to give yourself the start you need.

Problemzapper · 18/12/2024 15:40

she charged you £375 to park in her garage and use her shower?? I wonder what she did with the money they pocketed - or did she keep it all to herself? She totally exploited your vulnerable situation, any caring relative would have made room for you in the house and not charged a penny, as I'm sure you didn't cost her much living in the garage.

No, that money is yours, and her situation is totally different to what yours was - being 'bored' with her dh is not dangerous or urgent. Leave her alone, she will hopefully come to her senses one day, but if not it's her loss more than yours.
Good luck obtaining and living in your own home, which you deserve after all the grief you've had.

GreatGardenstuff · 18/12/2024 19:27

She made you stay with your abusive ex for 3 months because she wouldn’t let you park on her drive without paying for it!!! That’s fucking awful. Don’t ever forget how badly she treated you here. I wouldn’t do that to my worst enemy.

Keep your winnings, enjoy your good fortune and your new home. You deserve this, and without any ‘help’ from your sister.

Scottsy200 · 19/12/2024 23:27

Absolutely screw her, she did not help you at all she made you pay her £375 a month to babysit her kids and pets and be her taxi driver, offer her a similar deal but I didn’t see her rushing to give you the money you needed when you were getting physically abused

strawberry2017 · 20/12/2024 06:56

I've just read your update and cannot believe how evil your sister is. She has made you think you are in the wrong for each of her shitty actions.

hardyloveit · 20/12/2024 19:33

Take away the fact she made you pay rent and all the other conditions to live in a damp garage..... she let you stay in an abusive relationship!!! That in itself is disgusting!!!

If I found out my sister was in an abusive relationship and she wanted out I would be driving straight there and loading up her stuff and moving her into my home. No questions asked no conditions and no rent (not at least until she was settled etc and only towards electric and water)

Your whole family are arseholes for not helping you!!

Keep every single penny of your money!!

Oldestfortnitebloke · 21/12/2024 06:46

Give her your old van.

RunningJo · 21/12/2024 06:57

‘Helped you’? She didn’t help, she made you live an extra 3 months with someone she knew was abusive towards you whilst you saved to live in your own van IN HER GARAGE.
She made £375 a month from you, whilst you were given conditions to babysit etc etc. I don’t consider this help OP, sorry.

Please don’t give her any money, tell her it’s not as much as you initially thought, or that moving costs are more than you thought,‘or you have debts to pay off and just don’t have the spare money.
You don’t have to explain yourself to family members, but tell them the same thing if you must, but please do not give your money away.

Hocuspoc · 24/12/2024 22:07

I find it sad that the OP has fallen victim to her sister's tricks and is not responding after having a conversation with her and agreeing to her terms (again, this time again disguised as good terms for her as well 🤦🏼‍♀️).
But I guess many of us here all guilty of ignoring first set of advice, even multiple times... The important step is recognising something is off and asking for help, so if it has to be many times so be it.

Freshflower · 25/12/2024 01:15

I understand they had a baby on the way and to have someone living in the house at that time would have been very stressful, but to have you safe away from abuse she could have done more to help, but really she didn't help you at all. Letting you stay in a cold damp van in the garage, with rules to follow and paying £300 plus in rent every month. More like taking advantage of you and seems she's still trying to take advantage of you. You don't owe her anything and as others said you could offer her to sleep in your garage and pay you rent with rules to follow

Dani123459999 · 26/01/2025 02:23

Omfg, don't give her a cent. As far as reason is concerned she owes you $10k minimum. You were a slave labourer to a toxic, abusive sister and paid £9k in rent that gave you shower access only and a musty garage to park a van and did approximately £50k in labour, minimum. So yeah, she owes you big time. You should be no contact with that scumbag. She is not family to you, she doesn't treat you like it and will never help you back or pay you back and will just bleed you dry. Save yourself YANBU

Jumpingthruhoops · 26/01/2025 02:40

SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

But she didn't really 'help' you back then, though. If I've understood correctly, she allowed you to use her garage to 'live' in your own van AND made you pay for the privilege!
'Help' would have been to welcome you to stay at their house, paying minimal housekeeping, so you could get back on your feet.
So, no, I wouldn't be giving her half my lotto win. Seriously... the cheek of it!

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