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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

OP posts:
TammyJones · 14/12/2024 19:27

5iveleafclovers · 14/12/2024 13:00

Your update honestly doesn't paint your sister in a better light. She thought you were lying about being in an abusive relationship, she admitted to scamming you and now wants to offload her son onto you. Did she mention giving you expenses to cover her son living with you?

Agree.
I'd rethink this offer ..,,,, it may ended up being permanent, and it's not a stress you , or he , needs.

babyproblems · 14/12/2024 19:29

Definitely give her absolutely nothing!!
I am shocked she treated you so so badly. Honestly I would cut her off and never forgive her. She ‘allowed’ you to pay rent for sleeping in her garage and it literally made you seriously ill. She is a horrible person!!! Well done on rebuilding your life from a bad place. Enjoy your winnings. Xx

Sceptical123 · 14/12/2024 19:31

Just read your update - she’s awful, she’s abusive, she sees you as a doormat and you’re letting her wipe her feet all over you.

Sorry but you need to wake up. She doesn’t care about you. She really doesn’t.

mistymirror · 14/12/2024 19:35

Wow she's a dick. Please don't give her any money.

peachesarenom · 14/12/2024 19:35

I think she's asking too much of you x

LookItsMeAgain · 14/12/2024 19:44

This thread had very likely moved on quite a bit since you posted your opening message and this may have been already put forward, but if your father and cousins are so concerned about your sister, let them take her in and give her a safe space to live away from her husband.

You could offer your sister a place to stay but I'd be sure to put as many terms and conditions on her moving in that she and her husband did to you, that it might not seem like the easiest option to her.

She is jealous of your win and that you managed to escape your abusive partner. You don't have to take her in if there are other relatives that could.

Nikki75 · 14/12/2024 19:45

You didn't live in the house you were in a garage in a van paying that amount of money.
You were taken advantage of not helped.
This is a windfall for you to get back on your own feet .
I know it's a tough one and she is your sister but there are times when you need to put you first.
She has a roof over hers and the children's heads she can save or come to an agreement with her husband for her to leave it definitely isn't up to you to fund this ..
Look after you xx

Nikki75 · 14/12/2024 19:46

Isatis · 13/12/2024 14:42

Have you still got the van? Offer her that and a space in your driveway conditional on payment of rent.

Absolutely this !!

teatoast8 · 14/12/2024 19:49

YADNBU X

coldcallerbaiter · 14/12/2024 19:51

Living in your own van in a garage. Only using electricity should cost you just the electricity, especially as you gave lifts and babysat. If you were paying £375 for the garage, surely paying £25 more for a room in a shared house would have been preferable, it was a bad bad deal but you took it.

Nevertheless anyone who asks this much to live in a garage from family is a joke of a person.

I agree that Dsis didn’t have to have you stay in her crowded house, but to charge to live in a garage? Wow.

Dsis should get a small job, and a divorce, divide the assets. Don’t let her son live in your house, she didn’t let you live in her house did she? Tell her if you had a garage he could stay there for £374, oops you don’t have a garage.

ThistleTits · 14/12/2024 19:53

Manara · 13/12/2024 14:39

Your sister took massive advantage of you.

I bet she's lying and not even leaving her husband.

Don't give her a penny, not even any of your refurbishment money,

I also thought she was lying about leaving the husband. If you won a bag of shit, she'd want some of that too. Some people are so self entitled. She practically kept you in servitude and wants rewarding for it. If your dad and cousin are so worried let them help her. Oh, and make sure they know your side of this.

LookItsMeAgain · 14/12/2024 19:56

I've gone on and read more updates and more posts.
She didn't know that your DH was abusive to you? It shouldn't have mattered - you said he was and you needed a safe space and she made it as difficult for you to do it. She is still making things difficult but this time she is the one who needs the help but it is clear this time that there are other relatives that could and should step in here.

So her DH didn't know how much she was charging you as rent? Can I point out that if her DH was/is abusive either financially or in some other way, that money that she was getting from you, should have gone into a savings account for her to have as her runaway fund. She probably spent it and she should have saved it. This is no longer your issue to fix or to try to fix.

Wolframandhart · 14/12/2024 19:56

missod · 14/12/2024 13:11

Blimey, she sounds even worse now.

I agree. She is a liar. Dont believe a word she says. Buy the flat. Do not give her a penny. Say you'll out a shed in your outside space she can rent for £400 a month if she is desperate.

Memyselfandthemonkey · 14/12/2024 19:57

Oh my god...I couldn't even imagine going to bed each night knowing that my sibling is in my cold and dark garage living in their van let alone charging them rent to do so....whilst also knowing they are escaping an abusive relationship. I cannot believe what I'm reading.
Absolutely do not share your winnings. As others have said offer her your van for 375 a month.
Surely the other family who have popped up can help her?
Congratualtions on your winnings! Put all of it towards a lovely new home for yourself that you totally deserve.

Bigdawny1 · 14/12/2024 20:03

Oh boo hoo
always treat people with respect on the way up
etc etc
Keep it all. And spend it how YOU want x

coldcallerbaiter · 14/12/2024 20:04

HappyTwo · 14/12/2024 14:19

Lend her your van and say she can park in your yard for £345 a month. evens

Van got sold!

Tbh there is a van life movement and they can be cosy especially if indoors like in a garage. But to charge the same as a shared house room for it, that’s ridiculous.

Powerofflower · 14/12/2024 20:11

I don’t think you owe her anything. A teenager who is the root of some problems can cone and stay with you. Then you will be the one dealing with it. Op you need to step right back. If a friend/family member told me they were in an abusive relationship they could sleep on the sofa if she cared and listened she would have got you out quick. I’m wondering if your family were abusive which is how you ended up in a relationship like that. Because your sister sounds like she is only out for herself.

Pinkdhalia · 14/12/2024 20:13

I wanted to climb into my iPad screen and say no no no! Do not give her any of you winnings. After all she did for you! The heck she did!!! You slept in your van! For two years! She had a list of rules !! And then she charged you extortionate rent! Who does that in the face of a sisters anguish? She could have saved your rent in readiness to move out! And I don't believe that's what she wants your money for! She'll probably go on holiday with it! You owe her nothing keep your money it's karma that you come out the other end and won money. Use it to better yourself she bettered herself with your rent!!!!

Lalalalalalalalalalaoohoohwee · 14/12/2024 20:18

I mean, if the extent of your sisters 'support' is as you've described then you don't owe her anything. I don't get on with my sister but if I found out her husband was abusing her and she wanted to leave she'd be sleeping on my sofa, end of. Even though my house is tiny and even if I was pregnant, we'd make do to ensure she was safe. The fact she made you wait a further three months to leave is quite frankly, disgusting. And to put all those caveats on too, honestly makes me feel a bit sick. She sounds like a horrible person and I don't think you should give her a penny of your money. If it means not seeing her again then so be it. I understand it'll be difficult without seeing your nieces and nephews, maybe your sister will let you have contact with them without you necessarily having a relationship with her? Either way, you need to get yourself sorted first, your sister cares only about herself.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 14/12/2024 20:22

SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

What help was she in reality? She charged a few pounds less than if you had rented a small flat. A flat you could have rented from the get-go if she had presented you with her list of demands right away and not had to fix up your van. You were basically an indentured servant to her, with no way out for a long time and a longer time you had to be with your ex.

Her DH is luckily not abusive. She can work more and start saving. She can stay with "Mr. Boring" until their kids are old enough or get counselling.

This is YOUR time to shine. YOUR time to get your flat, move in, fix it up and feel FREE of the servitude your DS/BIL dumped on you.

CONGRATULATIONS on YOUR win! You more than deserve the good luck and the relief.

Edited to add, I had written this post much earlier but didn't press send, so just now pressed send and there have been updates I missed. I truly apologize.

Now, having the 15 year-old with you for a short amount of time is one thing, but make sure you are not totally supporting him.

I am sorry that your sister is unhappy, but luckily, you have seen that you actually still need the money more than she does. She seems really sorry now that it behooves her to feel that way.

Bunnycat101 · 14/12/2024 20:24

I think this is the time for you to establish some boundaries. Your husband obviously treated you badly but so did your sister. Did your parents not believe you either?

I’m not sure you taking on a 15yo is necessarily the best idea in the circs as that could very much extend out. Is she planning on contributing to his costs? I suspect not.

5iveleafclovers · 14/12/2024 20:25

Thalia31 · 14/12/2024 19:15

I never understood the need to tell everyone everything. What did you expect was going to happen you disclosing your winnings. Self made situation

Why are you quoting the whole entire very long post?

Bigcat25 · 14/12/2024 20:28

You paid her 9000 already plus free labour. If her son stays with you, she should pay for all food costs and utilities. The husband needs to know how much you paid.

laveritable · 14/12/2024 20:29

....and you are still referring to this individual as "my sister"?

Motherrr · 14/12/2024 20:31

No. She demanded your money when you were in need - and now she's demanding your money when she's in need. It's your money and you don't owe her any of it