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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

OP posts:
Dwrcegin · 14/12/2024 18:42

Just read your update. Bloody hell, she is an awful person. I wouldn't believe a word out of her mouth.

WarmingClothesontheRadiator · 14/12/2024 18:43

You moved out of one abusive relationship into another one with your sister.

Maybe have a look at the freedom programme?

http://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

Justgorgeous · 14/12/2024 18:43

Your sister sounds horrendous. Do not give her anything. Look after yourself and value yourself. Good luck.

TheThreeCheesesOfTheApocalypse44 · 14/12/2024 18:44

You won't get this opportunity again and you'll be an absolute fool to give your chance away. Don't give her anything.

Jabbabong · 14/12/2024 18:48

They earned £9k out of you as well as you doing various jobs for free. You owe them nothing.

Do you need any work doing on the flat? Painting? If so offer to employ her to do that?

Slight aside but when will people realise never to let on about lottery wins.

WarmingClothesontheRadiator · 14/12/2024 18:49

I also predict your sister won’t leave her husband. That is just another ruse to get money. If she did get divorced she would have the right to remain in her home or take half the proceeds to set up elsewhere.

CC222 · 14/12/2024 18:53

Your sister took advantage of your vulnerable situation, and caused you to stay in an abusive relationship longer until you could give her money to stay in your own van in her unused garage. She used you for money. She also used you as a personal nanny, housekeeper, gardener and chauffeur. Yes she enabled you to have somewhere to move to so you could leave your abusive ex, but it also came as a price. Her help didn't come from unconditional love, her help was conditional and benefited her as much as it did you.
She is now trying to use you again. Don't allow her to manipulate or use you for a second longer. She doesn't even have a valid reason to flee quickly like you did, the woman is bored and so incredibly greedy! She needs to get a job now and stop freeloading.
Tell her the sale has already gone through if you have to and the money is gone, just protect your money and your opportunity to secure your future home. You are your priority x

BackOfTheMum5net · 14/12/2024 18:53

Your sister profiteered from you when you were extremely vulnerable and now she wants you to compromise your future so she can have a shortcut to her own.

If she thinks what she did was ok, offer her a place to live for a mere £375 a month.

MochaBear · 14/12/2024 18:55

The answer is so obvious i am surprised you even posted on here to ask if you are being unreasonable or not!😆 tell her to F - off.
You paid her rent she should have saved some when she felt she was getting bored with her partner.. im sure she didnt get bired overnight that she didnt have any time to save

OliphantJones · 14/12/2024 18:56

Your sister is a disgusting excuse of a human being and bringing another baby into the world because she thought it might help a shitty marriage is one of the most ridiculous, stupid and irresponsible things I’ve ever heard.

AlwaysGinPlease · 14/12/2024 19:01

Your sister is a grade A cunt. Give her nothing!

LeopardPants · 14/12/2024 19:01

Do NOT give her anything! Selfish greedy cow does not deserve a penny!!! Do not even consider it she sounds awful

Haaaaaaan · 14/12/2024 19:02

Wow I can't imagine any circumstances in which my sister wouldn't be welcome to move in with me for free immediately with no conditions if her alternative was an abusive relationship.
If it was going to cause me financial hardship I'd expect her to contribute as soon as she could, and if I didn't have the space I would bother her to move out as soon as she could. But not a chance I'd take my own comfort over getting her out of a situation. And I wouldn't even say we are hugely close!

Monkeysatonthewall · 14/12/2024 19:06

She was so awful to you.. so sorry

CactusSammy · 14/12/2024 19:07

Your sister has really let you down. Not believing you about your abusive ex, and then charging you an extortionate amount to live in your van in her garage is appalling.

I'm so pleased that you are able to buy a flat, and that you are in a much better position now. But if it were me, I'd keep my sister at arms length from now on, and I certainly wouldn't be helping her out with anything.

Ladybaga · 14/12/2024 19:10

YANBU. Do not change your plans, you should get your flat and use the money how you wish. Tbh,I couldn't imagine charging a sibling in that situation or letting them stay in a van to get ill and I'm not even close to mine.

Hocuspocustoasty · 14/12/2024 19:13

Dwrcegin · 14/12/2024 18:42

Just read your update. Bloody hell, she is an awful person. I wouldn't believe a word out of her mouth.

This in spades!

MustWeDoThis · 14/12/2024 19:14

SarahJP95 · 14/12/2024 12:48

UPDATE:

Hi everyone, I wanted to edit my original post but can't seem to so I'm hoping that everyone can see this new post.

I just wanted to start by saying thank you so much to everyone who replied, I have read each and every post and wish I could reply to them all but I was honestly overwhelmed by how many people answered, I was sat in tears reading through them all last night. To have literally hundreds of people tell me I'm not in the wrong and that that they support me and everything I've been through has been so incredibly cathartic and has honestly really opened my eyes.

I did go to see my sister this morning and finally confronted her about everything, I have you all to thank for that as I would never have been brave enough to do it otherwise. It started as an argument but we quickly calmed down and just talked it all through, I'll bullet point the main things we discussed to try to keep this post short.

  1. It turns out that my sister thought I had been lying about my abusive ex. She told me that she had really liked him and just couldn't believe that he would have ever even raised his voice to me, I explained that he was a completely different person when we were around other people and it hadn't gotten really bad until the last year of our relationship. She was understandably very upset and apologised profusely, said she thought I had just gotten bored of him and couldn't be bothered to pay to rent a room so that's why I had asked to move in with her. I keep things very close to my chest so I should have talked to her about it properly right from the start and we've agreed to sit down soon and talk it through and see if I can find a therapist I can talk to as well.
  2. Her husband didn't know how much I was paying in rent. This was the worst revelation to be honest, it's going to take a while to get past this even though I can see her reasoning. She's been a stay at home mum for a long time and has really struggled with not having any money to spend on herself, everything her husband gives her goes directly into the food shop or clothes for the kids and they have a very tight budget. When she first approached him about me moving my van into their garage he suggested the chores/childsitting/petsitting plus £150 a month to cover the electricity and other bills which I think would have been very reasonable but she kept the rest for herself and never told him how much I was giving her a month. Again I wish I had just had a discussion about it with him but I'm a very shy person and don't like confrontation at the best of times. I also told her that if she had just been honest with me right from the start we could have worked something out since I would have always helped her if she had just asked.
  3. She didn't know how much money I had won. Again I should have just been honest, I actually wish I had never told anyone like everyone here has been saying but I know my family would have been suspicious if I had just suddenly bought a flat out of nowhere. I actually had quite a lot already saved up from my new job and selling my van, more than half of the deposit but I hadn't told her that so she assumed I had won enough for a full deposit. I explained to her that although it was a lot of money (for me at least) it was only enough for half of the deposit and I was still going to have to get a 40 year mortgage.
  4. Her marriage is in a worse state than I originally thought. I feel awful about this one and wish she had told me sooner, her and her husband have apparently been on the rocks for the last 5 years or so and thought having another baby would help but it's just made them much worse off financially. I said while I can't help her financially at the moment I will help out in any way I can especially if she does decide to leave him. For the moment we have agreed that my oldest nephew (who's 15) is going to come and stay with me for a while to help ease the tension in the house as he has been the cause of a lot of family arguments lately, I have always been very close with him and it'll be good for him to get away from that environment for a while until everything settles down.

That's about it for now, I want to thank everyone again so much for giving me the courage to finally straighten this all out. ❤

As a Mum of 3 with a troublesome 16yr old- I think it's a bad idea that your nephew moves in with you. Their problems should not be pinned on him. A teenager will only pick up on their atmosphere and lash-out accordingly. They need to put him first and make sure he knows he is loved and is entitled to live in his own home.

She obtained money from you under false pretenses - That was a rotten thing to do, especially when you had your own problems. Her own husband's financial abuse should have been discussed with a legal adviser and both of you needed help from a DV charity. Letting you move into her garage - It wasn't really a favour to you. It was free babysitting and dog-sitting for them. You were a free Au Pair, paying them to let you work for them.

I'm really angry for you, OP and I wouldn't trust your sister -at all-. I'm angry for all women who are suffering injustice.

Thalia31 · 14/12/2024 19:15

SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

I never understood the need to tell everyone everything. What did you expect was going to happen you disclosing your winnings. Self made situation

Bunny65 · 14/12/2024 19:16

What an awful situation you have been placed in. Your sister is really taking advantage of your kind nature. You lived in her garage in your parked van, provided free home help and paid rent while you developed pneumonia. Hardly generous or kind of them, they clearly made money out of it. Now that you've finally had some good luck she wants to take it off you because her husband is "boring". Ignore the emotional blackmail and buy your place.

Pixiedust88 · 14/12/2024 19:19

She is BU for wanting half your winnings. Yes she let you move in but made you live in the garage in a damp van causing health issues, pay rent and a load of other BS before she’d let you. She’ll have to save up like she forced you to before she can leave him. YANBU

PC7102 · 14/12/2024 19:21

No you’re not being unreasonable. She was unreasonable to charge you rent to park in her garage when you were in a vulnerable abusive situation. She doesn’t deserve any help from you

PrimalLass · 14/12/2024 19:21

She should get a job. That's it.

Sceptical123 · 14/12/2024 19:22

Inmydreams88 · 13/12/2024 14:26

Honestly every day on here I read things that make my jaw drop. How can this be real?? She made you go back to your abusive partner for 3 months till you’ve saved up enough for rent for you to park your van in her garage? And you did this? I mean what the hell…

Exactly this! Her husband isn’t even abusive, his worst crime is he’s ‘boring’. She sounds like an entitled prick and I doubt she’ll want to cut you off from her 3 kids if she’s about to become a single parent - she’ll need all the help she can get! What an arsehole she is. And like a pp said - where were your relatives when either of you needed help?! They’re arseholes too!

GG1986 · 14/12/2024 19:26

I would not give in to this!! She didn't hand over thousands of pounds to you when you needed help, she offered you a space outside in a damp van, still charging you 375 a month and expecting you to be her slave!! Personally I wouldn't have told her about the win, but you can't change that now.

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