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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

OP posts:
Dollshousedolly · 14/12/2024 18:18

Don’t let your nephew move in with you - you are buying a one bed flat and I’m guessing you live in a one bed now. Where is your nephew going to sleep ? Do you really want or need a 15 yo sleeping on your sofa or taking over your bedroom and you sleeping on the sofa. If he moves in with you, he’ll be there for years, financed by you. You need to go and live your life without a 15 yo living in your home. And really, you sister is out of order wanting to turf out her own 15 yo from his home.

Your sister has turned all this into poor her - don’t forget she let you to sleep in a damp van for two years, while also charging you excessive rent during this time, gave you no support while you separated from your partner, etc,

NameChanges123 · 14/12/2024 18:19

Wow!! She charged you £375 to park your van in her garage. What a greedy !

smellydog1 · 14/12/2024 18:19

No not a chance. Tell the others to butt out, they didnt help you and neither did she. She used you. Look after yourself girl...

Petlover9 · 14/12/2024 18:20

5iveleafclovers · 14/12/2024 13:00

Your update honestly doesn't paint your sister in a better light. She thought you were lying about being in an abusive relationship, she admitted to scamming you and now wants to offload her son onto you. Did she mention giving you expenses to cover her son living with you?

^ this post raised the point I was going to make. I think the OP should back track on that, besides a one bedroom flat is not big enough, best excuse ever. OP look after yourself first - please!💐

JosieW66 · 14/12/2024 18:23

Talk about slave labour! Unbelievable! Not sure how you managed to stick it for 2 years Shame about your nieces/nephews but they can always find you as adults though of course sister may bad mouth you so they wouldn't try. I'd want shot of a sister like her! Run for the hills with your money.

Markovenchip · 14/12/2024 18:23

Tell her to make it up with her husband, he might be 'boring', but he's provided her with a home, and presumably all the bills are paid without fuss, he's not abusive, either physically or verbally (I assume), many would be happy with that, as mentioned, £375 a month is a lot to pay for a bit of driveway space as you did, it may be best to cut off all contact, and just live your own life for you, do as you please, do it for you.

Petlover9 · 14/12/2024 18:24

Dollshousedolly · 14/12/2024 18:18

Don’t let your nephew move in with you - you are buying a one bed flat and I’m guessing you live in a one bed now. Where is your nephew going to sleep ? Do you really want or need a 15 yo sleeping on your sofa or taking over your bedroom and you sleeping on the sofa. If he moves in with you, he’ll be there for years, financed by you. You need to go and live your life without a 15 yo living in your home. And really, you sister is out of order wanting to turf out her own 15 yo from his home.

Your sister has turned all this into poor her - don’t forget she let you to sleep in a damp van for two years, while also charging you excessive rent during this time, gave you no support while you separated from your partner, etc,

So agree with this, I hope OP reads the new posts, she needs peace and quiet in a ONE BEDROOM home, there is no room for a 15year old male - NONE.

MamaLazerou · 14/12/2024 18:24

The rest might be forgivable but knowing you were being abused - and her demand for unaffordable rent made you stay in that situation for an extra 3 months!!!!!

No… wait the fact it was damp and you became ill paying for the privilege also unforgivable…

You owe her nothing - she can leave her husband like many other people have to by working it out herself and having a conversation with him… or your father and cousins can help…

AcrossthePond55 · 14/12/2024 18:24

@SarahJP95

Well, I'm glad you and your sister 'had it out' as it were. But the fact that she 'didn't have money' doesn't mean that charging you £300+ AND all the extra duties was an acceptable thing to do. At the very least she could have been honest with you and she wasn't. She lied.

But what really gets my goat is that she thought you were lying about your abusive marriage. I will tell you this, if my sibling came to me and said there was abuse and they needed to get out, I would believe them no matter how 'nice' their OH appeared on the surface. Instead, she decided you were lying which as far as I'm concerned, allowed her to justify the whole 'charge you to stay here' situation. Do you really think your sister and her DH would have charged you if they knew you were fleeing an abusive marriage? That would be really shitty.

And IMHO you need to be careful as far as your nephew staying with you. I don't mean in a 'danger' way, but if he has been having problems at home your sister may try to turn this 'temporary' situation into something permanent in order to 'save her marriage'. IIRC you're looking at a small flat, you don't need to stretch yourself financially for a larger place in order to house him. And BTW, are they paying you anything to offset your increased costs? I know you might not accept it, but after all they charged you for basically the same thing, 'offsetting' their increased costs.

Anyway, I'm glad the air was cleared and that you don't plan to hand her over part of your winnings.

MustWeDoThis · 14/12/2024 18:26

SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

Do not give her any money. She's choosing to put herself in this situation because "Bored", not because she's a victim of domestic abuse. She will get a 50% divorce settlement, child maintenance, and a fixed percentage of his pension, plus anything else sold off. Your family and your sister are gaslighting manipulative bullies. You could actually report them for harassment, if they continue calling you, and emotional blackmail - It's another form of abuse. It's clear your sister is favourited here and she's very greedy and self-entitled when it comes to money. She made you pay rent, for using your own home, and free slave labour for all of the "rules" - Entrapment - She put you through, knowing you had no other choice because she knew you couldn't stay with someone causing you physical pain. Why would you want her to stay in your life? These people are just another bunch of abusers.

H0210zero · 14/12/2024 18:26

She. Charged you rent to live in your own van. Whether that was on their property or not it just wasn't justified. I get paying electric but not rent. Especially if your babysitting anyway. She didn't support you she took advantage of you and when you won this money she yet again tried to take advantage of you.

Beeloux · 14/12/2024 18:26

Tell her to piss off. If she wants to palm her son off then she can call the social. Just remember she scammed you and made you get pneumonia from living in a damp garage.
She deserves nothing. I would never speak to her again personally.

Petlover9 · 14/12/2024 18:27

Olderbutt · 14/12/2024 17:41

This!

Cannot add to this - please OP think about yourself, because nobody in your family will.

MummyJ36 · 14/12/2024 18:27

I cannot get over the fact that she SCAMMED you out of money!!

please OP do not take in your nephew!! This is such a recipe for disaster and he will become your financial
dependant in no time.

Figgygal · 14/12/2024 18:28

My jaw is literally on the floor
She is a disgrace - she thought you were lying? She only gave support on her terms and left you in that situation for longer than needed, had you living in shitty conditions.
Honestly fuck her op

Honestlyhonee · 14/12/2024 18:32

What would her side of the story be?

Jorge14 · 14/12/2024 18:34

You are not being unreasonable at all, all she did was charge you to sleep in her garage and used you as a skivvy in the meantime whilst you developed pneumonia. The only thing you have done wrong is to tell her you won some money. If she needs to stay with you, tell her she can sleep in the van like she made you. Honestly, prioritise yourself now. Enough is enough

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FeegleFrenzy · 14/12/2024 18:35

£375 a month rent for two years! She’s had about 8k off you for living in your own van. Cheeky cow. Tell her to fuck off.

FeegleFrenzy · 14/12/2024 18:36

In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s not leaving her husband, just scamming you for money!

PinotDragon · 14/12/2024 18:36

Your sister is a cheeky fuck! Fair play she may have been under the thumb of husband (haven't read your replies) but I would probably bung her a few quid and have done.

Dwrcegin · 14/12/2024 18:38

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 13/12/2024 14:49

I wouldn't be at all surprised if you gave her some of your winnings and she suddenly miraculously made up with her husband.

This was my thought too. They just want the money.

Don't give them a penny OP.

StrikeForever · 14/12/2024 18:39

No, you shouldn’t give her any of the money, let alone half (the bloody cheek of her asking for that). Why on earth did you tell her about your modest win?

stichguru · 14/12/2024 18:40

Do what you want. You don't owe anything to your sister - she did nothing for you. You could have rented a pitch at a caravan park for less than you paid her!

Itiswhysofew · 14/12/2024 18:42

I'm glad you're keeping your money for yourself, however, your sister has no integrity and you need to be very careful not to be manipulated by her.

How long are you being expected to house your nephew?

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