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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

OP posts:
redalex261 · 14/12/2024 17:16

I’m with @Inmydreams88 cannot believe some of the shit behaviour I read about on these threads.

LEND her the deposit. That’s far more generous than what she did for you. It allows her to leave, she can claim any assistance via means tested benefits she may be entitled to. Point her in the direction of websites and a solicitor for advice. Be a shoulder to cry on. All of this makes you a far more decent relative than she was.

missod · 14/12/2024 17:27

She's a taker and you're a giver, the perfect match.

You're too bloody nice OP, pack it in!

tommyhoundmum · 14/12/2024 17:38

Please use your money to secure your future.

Olderbutt · 14/12/2024 17:41

Maboscelar · 13/12/2024 14:22

YANBU. It's your money and she didn't help you back then, she took advantage of your desperation to make you her skivvy who also paid to live in a damp garage!! She treated you badly. Spend the money on yourself and do not feel guilty.

This!

Nerlin9812 · 14/12/2024 17:44

Do not give her any money at all, she sounds manipulative and selfish. She had you living in a garage where you got ill. She isn’t in a life or death situation with her husband. Look after you

Noodles1234 · 14/12/2024 17:45

I am sorry for your sister and her children, I really am being on my second marriage (first abusive only emotionally not physically).
however, this is your chance and your life, you paid your way in your sisters driveway (omg-ness), but you have your chance and you take it by the horns.

by all means offer a loan (be prepared you will never get it back), or offer the sofa for a month when you have moved in until they find a place, but when they get their share of the family home you will need a home too.

good luck and so exciting for you!

TwinklyMintHelper · 14/12/2024 17:47

Dear me! How supportive of her to let you rent their garage to live in (not)! And then to use you as their unpaid help. Sounds to me as though they have money problems.

Keep your money for your own future, especially after everything you have been through. Don’t worry about what your manipulative and selfish sister is saying. Take a deep breath, give her a big NO. And put yourself first - you deserve it. If she wants to separate from her husband, it is he who will have to move out. Legally, she is entitled to stay there with the kids. She is trying to exploit you, just as she did previously. You don’t need this!

ThisRedLion · 14/12/2024 17:50

You shouldn't give her anything she sounds petty and greedy and there's so much help for her to leave her husband and while she has 3 kids she stays put and husband moves out sounds like a scam, you go get your flat and get on your feet always be there for your sister remind her that what she asked of you was horrid and demeaning at a time you needed her love and strength and to make you have to stay for extra 3 months with an abusive partner is beyond disgusting if that was my sister she would of stayed in our house rent free and looked after and wouldn't dare ask her to look after my kids or do my gardening so no she's entitled to bugger all

Lotsofsnacks · 14/12/2024 17:51

OP after just one meeting with your sister, she has managed to manipulate you again and tug on your heart strings, you have already agreed to let her teenage son stay with you, why?!! He should be with his family. Id be worried she’s trying to get all her clan in your flat. Tell her you’ve changed your mind, and change your locks. Don’t fall for any of this OP, get yourself the lovely flat, on your own! You wont enjoy being at home when the teenage boy starts bringing mates round when you are trying to relax of an evening.

Volumedelachanel · 14/12/2024 17:58

Your sister is a master manipulator. She has played you completely.

But going forward, there's no way I'd be letting a difficult teen move into my one bed apartment.

Beanzmeanz · 14/12/2024 18:00

Just remember your sister (I presume) owns half the house she lives in. You don’t own anything. As she is the primary carer for the children she should stay in the house and ask her husband to leave.
Your update doesn’t really improve my opinion of her but at least you have been more honest with each other

Rowen32 · 14/12/2024 18:00

OP, you are being very forgiving and I don't understand why. That's a crazy amount of money she took from you, how are you not furious? And thinking you were lying about bring abused, I wouldn't speak to her again.

LouDeLou · 14/12/2024 18:01

The story of what your sister did to you has left me gobsmacked 😲

converseandjeans · 14/12/2024 18:01

Sorry but no - she charged you the going rate for a bedroom but you had to live in the garage & you also had to help with children & pets & lifts to appointments.

Offer her to stay in the camper & charge her £375/month!

GivingitToGod · 14/12/2024 18:03

Perhaps offer your sister some money but not so much that it will prevent you putting a deposit on a flat

ThisIcyHare · 14/12/2024 18:03

she didn’t let you live with her, she charged you an exorbitant amount of money to live in a damp garage where you contracted pneumonia, used you as a chauffeur, babysitter, gardener, and dog shit cleaner upper. She didn’t support you, she did the absolute bare minimum, and didn’t even have the decency to allow you some breathing space on ‘rent’ so you had to stay with an abusive partner for another 3 months. She let that happen to you.

Her husband bores her, poor her. She will get half of everything in a divorce, which is more than where you started. Enjoy renovating your new home and don’t bother with her if that’s her attitude. Congratulations on your lottery win, you enjoy it as you deserve!

WhereYouLeftIt · 14/12/2024 18:04

To quote my response prior to your update -

"Your sister is, frankly, a piece of work."

She was a liar before, and she's a liar now. She exploited you financially before, and she's going to financially exploit you again by offloading her 15 year old son onto you - there was no mention of her paying for his keep, was there? No, of course not! She has no respect for you and no affection - for her, you are merely a resource to be exploited to her advantage.

Please, please, sit and think over how she has manipulated you AGAIN.

I know you won't do this but just consider - what do you think her husband would say if you told him you were so sorry to hear that his marriage to your sister is on the rocks? Because I would bet good money that it would be news to him.

Protect yourself from your devious manipulative sister. Because she will fuck you over without hesitation.

Petlover9 · 14/12/2024 18:04

Maboscelar · 13/12/2024 14:22

YANBU. It's your money and she didn't help you back then, she took advantage of your desperation to make you her skivvy who also paid to live in a damp garage!! She treated you badly. Spend the money on yourself and do not feel guilty.

Totally agree with this ^^. You MUST look after yourself as you don't know what the future holds. My only criticism is that you should not have told anyone, now just buy your home, your money is your business.

Petlover9 · 14/12/2024 18:09

Noshowlomo · 13/12/2024 14:25

She provided you with a garage, you still had to pay to live there and were given a long list of duties that you had to adhere to. You then got ill because you lived in a van in a garage. I’m sure they didn’t go out of pocket because of you, in fact they benefited financially.

Totally agree with this^^. Relatives always come out of the woodwork when folk come into money. I hope you win again, but if you do, DO NOT TELL ANYONE. If it is a big win you could always help animal charities, but nothing for your selfish sister.

HappyMe6 · 14/12/2024 18:10

She’s a CF and quite honestly I’d tell her to do one

sunshinemode · 14/12/2024 18:10

OMG the help she offered to you I would offer to a stranger without charging them rent

LookingforMaryPoppins · 14/12/2024 18:11

Your sister took advantage of you!

I trust your sister will be paying rent for her son to live with you - if living in an unheated garage (and being expected to garden / babysit etc is) £375, a bedroom inside and no chores will be significantly higher.

Your sister sounds incredibly self centred and wholly unsupportive when you needed her most!

AnotherNameChange1234567 · 14/12/2024 18:14

Don’t give her anything. she’s a user.

If you want to be generous tell her she can sleep outside in your van for £375 a month.

Petlover9 · 14/12/2024 18:14

Inmydreams88 · 13/12/2024 14:26

Honestly every day on here I read things that make my jaw drop. How can this be real?? She made you go back to your abusive partner for 3 months till you’ve saved up enough for rent for you to park your van in her garage? And you did this? I mean what the hell…

The whole family sounds selfish. I wish the OP well in her new home and I hope she doesn't give any away to her awful family. That sister made her wait before moving into the DAMP garage, what a cf!

ThisIcyHare · 14/12/2024 18:16

Having read the update, your sister took over £5,000 from you over 2 years and her husband didn’t know. She took that for herself. She sent you back to live with an abusive partner for 3 months, and then took all that money from you. She is vile and you are better off without her. She allowed you to live in an unsafe home, and then in a damp garage that made you ill. What would you say if you had a friend in this situation? Cannot believe this awful behaviour