To be annoyed at being told to be considerate of disabled people

[DefendingPan]

This sign was in the disabled toilet in a restaurant (which is also the only baby change in the restaurant).

What’s the point of this sign? What might parents be doing that they will stop after reading this?

First response nails it as always.

How did this not occur to you, OP?

And I assume the only disabled toilet. Person desperate for toilet versus baby who needs changing at some point soon?!

Unless a bad poonami or wet themselves completely, I do agree

They huff and puff at disabled people who have the audacity to want to use the disabled facilities. I had it just last weekend.

I think the sign means that parents should give consideration to the needs of disabled people when it comes to that loo. Like, if there's a queue, let the disabled person use it first for example. A nappy change can wait. A disabled person might find it very difficult to wait. I think generally people can be a bit ignorant to the myriad needs of different disabled people.

You wouldn't let a disabled person use the disabled loo in front of you?! 😮

You could take the baby elsewhere to do a nappy change but the disabled person has no other option. I would think you were extremely selfish if you refused a disabled person who had gone to the trouble of asking just because you had a leaky nappy to deal with.

Its a reminder to change your baby, clean up after yourself and put the changing table back up.

Its a reminder that it is not a 'mother and baby' toilet.. change your baby and leave.

It is a reminder that its a disabled facility for disabled customers, not a toilet for you, your 2 toddlers and your nanny.

You can go pee elsewhere, so can your toddler, the disabled people who require that toilet cannot.

Its a reminder that your needs do not trump the people who that toilet was made for.

but who cares about disabled people.. everyone else always uses out toilets for their own convenience and doesn't give a flying fuck about our needs.

I'd assume it's there because some parent has got snotty at someone who "doesn't look disabled" using the loo.

I’d imagine parents have been using them for convenience rather than for nappy changes

YABU OP.

Of course parents should be considerate of disabled people in the disabled loo, even if it's also the only baby change.

Clearly there have been parents being inconsiderate in some way to necessitate a sign - the specifics don't really matter.

If the cap doesn't fit you, then don't wear it.🤷‍♀️

Which is the problem. Baby changing facilities shouldn’t be sited in accessible toilets. They are for those with disabilities. Imagine sitting in a wheelchair, desperate to go to the loo, and your chair won’t fit into the standard cubicles. Sorry, but I don’t understand why motherhood trumps disability in this respect.

It means let them go first before you change your baby. Not rocket science

Wow. You obviously aren't disabled or spent and length of time with someone who is. I am both a parent and disabled, it's much fucking easier being a parent. The world is set up for us in so many ways. Being disabled it's actively not.

I wouldn't be at all surprised, though. Unfortunately.

Don't take bloody ages, don't leave the floor wet through or wipes/nappies all over, don't tuck the emergency cord up out of the way of your grabby toddler and then leave it like that. Only use them if you really have to (I waited ages outside one a few weeks back and the lady inside had no disability at all, she just wanted a wee without a toddler on her lap... I know because her husband who was waiting outside for her told me. She used it because the toddler was in a clingy phase and he didn't fancy holding a shouty yelly toddler for a minute or two. He was embarrassed (good) she wasn't.)

If you really want to be helpful, complain to the company/business/venue that you would far rather have a separate facility than encroach on a space people with disabilities need. You, as a parent, as there are more parents, have a far stronger voice here than disabled people do. You benefit from facilities 'we' fought tooth and nail for, for the few short years you need them.. whereas we need to use them for life.

I am disabled. At the V&A a few weeks ago I went in the disabled loo after a man who'd been changing a toddler and he had left the changing table down and a shitty nappy on it. The taps were thick with foam soap and there was a lot of soap and water on the floor which is dangerous as I have MS.
I think this kind of selfishness from a minority of parents will have given rise to the sign.
It will not change the selfish fuckers behaviour a jot, and will rile decent people like yourself @DefendingPan but it does mean the restaurant can say "I am sorry, we know this is an issue and we do try and stop it - see the sign etc" when people complain.

let me guess.. you're the kind of person who doesn't fold pushchairs on busses so wheelchairs can get on?

Imagine sitting in a wheelchair, desperate to go to the loo, and your chair won’t fit into the standard cubicles. Sorry, but I don’t understand why motherhood trumps disability in this respect.

Thank you. I can tell you it is humiliating. Being disabled and in a wheelchair in this world often is. It is not set up us.

I can well imagine some entitled people thinking that their baby needing to be changed trumps a disabled person using the loo. So if thats happened, that may be why they put the sign up.

You;re right that most people would think the sign is pointless, because they are not arseholes, its clearly aimed at the small percentage that are.

The accessible toilet is not your basic amenity though is it ? Unless you’re disabled. Wheelchair users and those who using walking aids have difficulty using standard amenities, and that’s why accessible toilets exist. If you use them unnecessarily then yes, you are acting very entitled. Grow up.

Is there nothing people won't get offended about?

It's just a reminder that nappies can normally wait a bit longer whereas a disabled person might not be able to. Be mindful.

If it doesn't apply to you, then it doesn't apply to you. Clearly because they have a lack of space there's been comments made by a disabled patron.

Whenever you see a sign that either warns against doing something absolutely ridiculous, "Visitors are reminded not to put their heads, arms or legs through the railings." Or states the bleeding obvious, "Tables are for the placing of food and beverages only."

Or, like your example seems to combine both of these two sentiments but in a cryptic fashion, it is because somebody has indeed done something so strange and hard to describe that another person has had to sit down and try to put together a short note to try to prevent another such incident in future which doesn't make them sound as equally bonkers as the original miscreant.

Wowsers. Just read the whole thread. Like the "I park my pram in the wheelchair space" threads this is truly depressing reading for disabled people like me who are obviosuly held in contempt by so many.
How can anyone, anyone think their baby needs its nappy changing more than a disabled person needs to toilet.