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How to handle seeing ex husband at child’s graduation

124 replies

MsUhura · 12/12/2024 22:30

Have to see my ex husband at my child’s graduation ceremony tomorrow. First time since he finally moved out 18 months ago. No violence or anything. He’s just a turd of a human being. I can’t bear the idea of pretending to make small talk.
Is it ok to just ignore him except when our child is around? Am steeling myself. Cheer me up with your stories please, sisters.

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Enough4me · 13/12/2024 00:34

Have bland topics in mind so you don't stumble if making small talk, - lovely event for you child, the weather, the queues (always at events), travelling there. Excuses to move away - drink, loo, need to make a call, missed call.

Focus on getting photos of your child with friends and being excited for them.

RosesAndHellebores · 13/12/2024 00:41

As others have said you behave civilly to each other and provide a dignified front for the sake of your daughter. It's her day and it's all about her

My parents divorced when I was a teenager. There was no abuse they simply disliked each other. The only time they mixed was at my wedding and the children's christenings. They could have behaved much better.

I learnt from an early age that parents should never, ever mess their children around.

StormingNorman · 13/12/2024 00:49

By all means put yourselves first and ignore each other. It’s only your DC’s day you’ll be ruining.

Winesoup · 13/12/2024 01:53

I think when there's been an abusive relationship a mother shouldn't have to put on a brave face and be polite to her abuser at public events, in case her kids are unhappy that they're not getting on.

In the case where he's just an arse, i think a bit of civility is called for. If there are only 2 tickets for the graduation ceremony, could you have a family member or close friend meet you all right after, to take photos and congratulate the graduate, but really to give you a buffer and some moral support.

And to the pps saying that you decided to kids with him, so suck it up, i think we can take it that he wasn't a turd when they got married, the OP is allowed to leave an unhappy marriage.

Lostsadandconfused · 13/12/2024 02:10

Why do you have to see and talk to him? Is it allocated seating?

Last night I went with my partner to his son’s graduation. We sat apart from them, there was no acknowledgment from either party. The kids arrived and left with her so just came and gave us a hug, had a couple of photos taken, then ran off with their friends.

SD1978 · 13/12/2024 02:22

If you can stomach it- sit with him. It's not for you, but for your child so they aren't having to police/ worry about where they are looking, are they looking enough at each parent, where my parents. As others have said- it's an hour or so, but they will appreciate for the rest of their life.

Edingril · 13/12/2024 02:24

Winesoup · 13/12/2024 01:53

I think when there's been an abusive relationship a mother shouldn't have to put on a brave face and be polite to her abuser at public events, in case her kids are unhappy that they're not getting on.

In the case where he's just an arse, i think a bit of civility is called for. If there are only 2 tickets for the graduation ceremony, could you have a family member or close friend meet you all right after, to take photos and congratulate the graduate, but really to give you a buffer and some moral support.

And to the pps saying that you decided to kids with him, so suck it up, i think we can take it that he wasn't a turd when they got married, the OP is allowed to leave an unhappy marriage.

Yes people can and should leave if they choose to but common sense will tell you if you have children with someone as they grow you will be in the same place as them sometimes

And an event for your child is not the place to put on a performance

If you run into them you remain civil that is all you don't need to be their bff

Spirallingdownwards · 13/12/2024 07:10

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 12/12/2024 23:45

Yes I maintained civility. Ex had affair, withheld CM too It was an acrimonious divorce.

So yours is simply not the situation this poster is referring to at all.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 13/12/2024 07:43

Spirallingdownwards · 13/12/2024 07:10

So yours is simply not the situation this poster is referring to at all.

My point being I still was civil.

NeedToChangeName · 13/12/2024 07:47

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 12/12/2024 23:07

A partner of one of my dc said to me previously that she had a dreadful graduation because her parents wouldn't speak to each other and thus "made it all about them". She was very hurt.

This is important

OP, focus on your child, being proud of them. The graduation is their day to shine. Don't ruin it

NeedToChangeName · 13/12/2024 07:52

Edingril · 12/12/2024 23:57

Well if I was daughter I would be asking the mother if he was that bad why on earth would you have had a child with him

And as it is my graduation ruining it because you can't be civil to the person you had me with is on you

Time and place

Oh bless your naivety and complete lack of understanding of domestic abuse

HeadNorth · 13/12/2024 07:57

My mum had an affair and treated my dad appallingly. He was still polite and civil at my graduation/wedding etc as were all his family. My late dad was a wonderful man and I still miss him. Be that person.

Notmydaughteryoubitch · 13/12/2024 07:57

I didn't attend my graduation because I was too worried about how my parents would be together and knew I wouldn't enjoy it. It's always been a sadness for me, when I graduated from my MA I didn't invite either and my (now) DH came. Since my DD came along 20 odd years later they can now be civil with each other but it's been a long time coming. Honestly I wouldn't sit with him but when you speak with him kill him with kindness, do whatever you can around your child so that they feel comfortable and safe around both parents and do whatever you can to make this about them and not the two of you. Doing that doesn't somehow invalidate how he behaved towards you or your feelings towards him but just evidences how you are willing to prioritise your child's needs. Deep breaths, hold the mantra that this isn't about you and will pass and be the bigger person.

bengalcat · 13/12/2024 07:59

Given the rate of marital / relationship breakdown doubtless you want be the only two parents there in this situation .
Youre both there to support and celebrate your child on their most important day so pretend you’re an actress playing a part - rise above the acrimony , be civil , sit together , have a drink after if it’s offered and look forward to seeing your graduates friends / course mates and celebrating their achievements too
Good luck and congrats to your kid

Howisitnotobvious · 13/12/2024 08:01

There may well be lots of mingling before and after, so have some small talk prepared.

^ I'd say hello and sit away from him. If I had to sit/stand next to him I'd rather go on my phone or make small talk with strangers and totally ignore him No need to chat to him at all surely when alone?

Mumistiredzzzz · 13/12/2024 08:02

The day isn't about you or your ex. Just act like a normal civil human being.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 13/12/2024 08:10

I can’t believe the way some people behave tbh. Barring abuse of course you should be civil, take photos and go for a celebration meal if that’s what your child wants. This is their special day ffs. Yes sadly sometimes relationships break down, but when you have a child with someone this is what you sign up for. It’s one day of feeling uncomfortable for the sake of a milestone event for your child. I can’t believe how selfish some parents are.

R053 · 13/12/2024 08:30

It does take time and practice. Eighteen months ago is not that long ago really in the scheme of things if he was a turd.

Set yourself small goals. At this graduation, aim to just say “hello” directly to the ex and if Johnny is standing there, make it all about him. e.g “Johnny, what was it like when they called you up? Were you surprised?”

Don’t share personal information to the ex and direct conversation about Johnny and external stuff eg the weather. You don’t have to go out for meals with the ex but if you do, invite others. That definitely makes it easier and he is more likely to behave. You don’t have to be friends - just being polite and civil is enough.

Penguinmouse · 13/12/2024 08:34

Don’t ignore him, that will make things uncomfortable for your child. It is their day - just keep it surface level and focus on your child. They’ve worked really hard for this - do you have a plan to go for a meal or something afterwards? Ask your son what he wants to do and grit your teeth for a day. There will be plenty of shared life events in future that you’ll need to grin and bear.

Snoken · 13/12/2024 08:46

Oh, I'm dreading this. I separated almost 3 years ago from my adult kids dad and he was and has since been so horrible to me. He is and was emotionally, physically and financially abusive, controlling and manipulative. The kids aren't in touch with him anymore but I think there might come a day when they will be (he works hard at winning them over intermittently) and he will probably be invited to their weddings/graduations etc in the future and I honestly don't know how i will react. I have such severe ptsd from him that just talking about him makes my heart race, my hands start to shake and I just feel sick.

I think if I really had to be in the same space as him I would have to just pretend he doesn't exist. I really think that is the best I can do even if that's not what's best for my kids. Having casual chats with him seems insurmountable right now so I get how you feel OP.

Gogogo12345 · 13/12/2024 08:57

Bathsheba1878 · 12/12/2024 23:43

Just out of interest, to those saying civility should always be paramount, are there any circumstances in which you believe it is unreasonable to expect a woman to adhere to that? If for example, you have been subjected to physical and or / mental abuse does it actually set a good example to your children to repress your feelings, put on a brave face and be polite to your abuser? Is this something you would want your daughters to regard as admirable behaviour?
I do not know the answer to this but would be interested to know what others think.

Well yes I Had to be civil to my abusive ex. Much as I dislike him and generally wouldn't seek him out to speak to it was OUR joint grandchild's funeral.

No way would I be worrying or even thinking about that that being there. Was far more concerned in supporting my daughter

Wallacewhite · 13/12/2024 09:14

I spent many years working with separated parents and their children. Remember, this is likely to be the first of many milestones where you are brought into contact with your ex (weddings, anniversaries, grandchild's first birthday party etc).

For the sake of your child if nothing else, you need to find a polite, emotionally mature way to be in the same space as him. The advice I often give is to think about a colleague you don't like and try to emulate the business-like way you interact with them. Try not to be frosty or passive aggressive, but just cooly polite and purposeful.

Also, I disagree with the advice to ask your child to introduce you to the parents of a coursemate. Whether it's your intention or not you will be giving your child the message that you need babysitting, on a day that is meant to be wholly about them and their future/ independence.

Best of luck!

SeAmableSiempre · 13/12/2024 09:44

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 12/12/2024 23:34

This happened to me at my dc graduation this year. Ex and I weren't communicating at all for many years. I declined when I found out ex was definitely attending.

I spoke to my child and I realised they wanted me there. Spoke to the uni who offered separate seating.

in the end I thought I didn’t want to make it awkward. We sat together. Chatted politely. Caught up on news about each other’s families.
our child noticed us get on and was relieved.
We even had photos together.

im glad I went and put aside my feelings. In the end it was a good day.

Well done for this, you were the better person 👏🏻
My husband and I have been married for over 30 years and his ex wife has caused issues at every family event, even funerals. She ruined youngest DSD wedding stating she would not attend if my DH walked her down the aisle so DSD asked her DB to step in. After more than 35 years since they split she is still bitter and twisted about the marital breakup even though she’s remarried. The younger DSD has backed off completely and has no contact with us, fortunately the eldest DSD and DSS still keep in touch.
The selfishness of some people are beyond measure, children should never have to choose between mother and father or be made to hide their feelings.

SeAmableSiempre · 13/12/2024 10:06

EmmerdaleFan78 · 12/12/2024 23:21

Poor you 😢 I’m already dreading my son’s wedding. It’ll be my ex lording it up pretending he’s all that whilst we’ve paid a large chunk towards it with him having contributed nothing.

Everyone on the thread has given the ideas I would have suggested so good luck and keep your chin up 💓💓

And I guess your poor son knows you’re dreading the wedding! What a terrible pressure for him, poor him.
This is your DS’s and future DIL day, one they will never repeat…
“It’ll be my ex lording it up”…
I’m sad for you if that’s the only vision you can come up with on the run up to your DS’s wedding. This is your SON, it’s going to be the most important day of his life, so suck it up, deal with it and make sure your focus is on him and not your ex. So what if your ex is lording it up (which is at the moment nothing more than your prediction). What anyone else is doing or who has paid what is irrelevant, because the main people that day are your DS and his future wife… it’s one day, and it’s never to be repeated.
Don’t do what my DH’s ex wife did by being a sour face and ruining her DD’s wedding day with her behaviour. No one was impressed, in fact some were disgusted, and the day was remembered for the mother of the bride refusing the speak to her ex husband or take her place with him for the photos and top table, rather than the joy of two people getting married.
Think on, you are not the important person on that day!

Anxioustealady · 13/12/2024 10:11

It depends what's most important to you, being polite for a few hours, or your children deciding to elope or not get married at all because they dread how you'll behave, not being invited to your grandchildrens birthday parties (maybe they'll just invite the in laws or have it immediate family). There are consequences to ruining their events and making it all about yourself.

Having divorced parents casts a shadow over EVERY SINGLE big event in a person's life because their parents can't put them first for a day.