To think this mother should be ashamed of herself

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2zq1yl0ko

17yr old girl & 18 yr old boy hook up on holiday in Dubai. I believe they may have met over there. The girls mother finds messages on the girls phone when they return to the UK. The mother reports the guy to Dubai police. He gets arrested as sex with anyone under 18yrs is illegal in Dubai. He has now been sentenced to 1 year in prison.

I haven't looked into it much, as far as I can tell it was consensual, a charity called Detained in Dubai have been trying to help (legally I think).

Am I alone in thinking how bloody spiteful the mother is?!? The girl is 17 years old and I think in another report saw that she turned 18 shortly after returning.

In countries with harsh penalties and a very black and white approach to guilt, yes, you obey them without question

And you won't obey laws you think are immoral?
I'm amazed the UK court system hasn't punished you yet, frankly

There are plenty of laws in the UK that many people think are absurd, immoral, or even repugnant - but ignoring them doesn't fix them
Campaign, write to your MP, start a protest group, put a petition on Change,org or the UK Parliament website
You are lucky to live in a liberal western democracy - use its tools to change things you don't like
Ignoring the law will, sooner or later, not end well for you

If it were not for women in the UK breaking laws that they did not like, we would still not have the vote.

But this thread is not about whether the teenager was foolish to ignore the law (if he even knew about it). It's about whether the mother of the girl was morally wrong to report it.
Which she was.

Very nasty thing for the mother to do. If she had reported it while still in Dubai her daughter might have got arrested also as isn't sex out of marriage illegal in Dubai?

Absolutely. I’m sure the law been broken many many times and what happens behind closed doors stayed behind closed doors.

Any normal parent might give their daughter a bit of a talking to when she got home - though most parents of 17 year old don’t go through their private communications - but to report to the authorities- she’s a nasty wicked vindictive cow and 💯 his biggest crime in her eyes is bring guilty of being black

All of this. ^ The woman is a horrible vindictive twisted witch. If I was the daughter I would never speak to her again. Vile article.

Was the girl (and her mum) white by the way? I'm just wondering, because people keep saying she did what she did for racist reasons too.

They’re Indian - type his name into X (Twitter) and their pictures and names come up.

a) She didn't find out til they were back in the UK
b) No, it hasn't been since 2021

As you say - he broke the law - but so did she, unless it was rape.

"As you say - he broke the law - but so did she, unless it was rape."

According to their laws, this was statutory rape.....

But this has nothing to do with this thread. The question the OP asked was about whether the mother, should be ashamed of herself. Not whether a consenting couple broke the law having sex.

Yet plenty of people have focussed on the girl being a law breaker. Over there she is a minor, so this was rape. The lad is now a convicted rapist.

It's not usually the case on mn excuse rapists but it has happened in this thread because of a lack of respect for laws different from ours.

Perhaps the tea video needs to be updated because drinking tea has different rules around the world.

Poor kid.

Sneaky bitch.

The difference in attitude from MN posters on this thread is reflected in the fact that “rape” and “consent” do not normally sit together and no crime has been committed within the society most posters live in.

On the same basis, are we also going to argue that it is right that girls in Afghanistan cannot go to school because of a draconian law?

Challenging laws you think inappropriate is not wrong. As l have said upthread, if this didn’t happen we would still not have the vote in the UK and a woman was legally regarded as property of her husband.

But the thrust of this thread is not about the consenting couple involved, it is about the actions of the daughter’s mother.

Why is she even looking through a 17 year olds phone?

Arguably an illegal action in itself.

The vindictive cow mother should be arrested and charged for lying to the police saying her daughter was raped by force when she knew that was false.

"On the same basis, are we also going to argue that it is right that girls in Afghanistan cannot go to school because of a draconian law?"

Typical "whataboutery"

Regardless, we may very find these laws abhorrent but we cannot argue that we should "take back control" and value our own "sovereignty" then disrespect the right of other countries to do the same.

Laws changed in this country from within rather than have them imposed upon us.

In this case the equivalent argument would be for someone to move to Afghanistan then complain once there their female child could not go to school.

But they would be right to complain that their female child couldn't go to school? That's basic discrimination against the rights of the child.

"But they would be right to complain that their female child couldn't go to school? That's basic discrimination against the rights of the child"

Well they could try and Lobby from within but if a non citizen/ immigrant they may face some resentment...

I’ve never argued about “sovereignty” and “taking back control”. It’s all a myth. The UK had voting rights within the EU. You are confusing me with messrs Reece-Mogg and Farage. But that has nothing to do with was the mother unreasonable to soul destroy her own daughter.

But l do support Amnesty International who fight oppression overseas.

Fucking sexist that she chooses to have sex with him but gets no punishment. Takes two to tango and it was consensual

"But that has nothing to do with was the mother unreasonable to soul destroy her own daughter."

Neither did Afghanistan but you brought it up anyway.

All of what you have written is a lie from the pits of hell.
The mother, after scrolling through her daughter's phone WHEN THEY HAD GOT BACK TO ENGLAND, reported to the Dubai authorities that Marcus had had sex with her then underage daughter.
The daughter, being underage could not consent to sex in Dubai outside of marriage.
Therefore, in Dubai, Marcus committed statutory rape.
The girl committed no crime.
If they were BOTH underage, then they BOTH could have been charged with having non legal non marital sex.
As the mother did not allow her daughter to have boyfriends, the emphasis on the assumption that Marcus was reported for being Black and not being a boy who got her then underage daughter into bed, facilitated by his parents is speculative.
It also takes away blame from Marcus' parents who are lucky that they were not charged for abetting statutory rape.
I am uncomfortable prescribing non accountability to using race to blame the girl's mother whilst disingenuously not considering the parochialism of her culture and the fact that any race of boy committing statutory rape on her daughter, facilitated by his parents would not have been reported.
I am also uncomfortable with the racism card being drawn any and every time a Black male of age getd hemmed up by the law, due to his folly when non Black protaganists can be blamed.

Too often this card is pulled, even in sex offending accusations , whilst the hypersexuality and misogyny in Black male cultures and the female facilitation of it goes uncritiqued to the point of too often blaming the nearest female in the situation.

Maybe if intraracial male on female sexual offending in Black communities was not seriously under reported and the music scene was not littered with debasement from Black males towards women and each other.....I would conveniently hold a hypocritical ( and deflected racist) view of the situation.
A lack of sexual discipline coupled with sexual entitlement and pickmeism along with turning perp into victim and victm into perp is too serious a problem in Blackland for me not to feel itchy with the tone of this thread.

The infantilisation of the Black male's sexual accountability has Black people top of the type of socio economic/sexual health charts anywhere where we are in non negligible numbers.
Marcus' mother is the one who should be ashamed. She facilitated her son in committing a sex crime.
No good woman does that.

Something is very wrong with a parent who facilitates their child in breaking the law, instead of waiting a couple of weeks to get back to the UK.