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My daughters father mess up her routine

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DenimBird · 10/12/2024 20:39

My daughter goes to her dad's 3 times a week
She's 11 months old. She usually goes over there at 3pm-7.30

Now when my baby is with me and not seeing her dad I find her routine is amazing, wake up, breakfast, play, then a nap about 12 noon-2pm, then she stays awake for rest of the day, playing, having dinner, watching tv, having a bath, bed time bottle etc and she's usually Zzzzzzz by 8pm. Perfect!

Now when her dad has her, he picks her up after her afternoon nap. So basically she goes to him fresh as a daisy. Now everytime she is with him he texts me and says she's really tired or she's falling asleep etc at around about 5-6pm. So I tell him can you keep her awake then please, play with her, talk to her etc

Her father lives with his mother still. And when he has the baby he lounges about watching tv for majority of his time with her. I had to tell him a few months back to stop letting her nap after 3pm, as her bedtime is 7-8 pm.

Now today he's messaged me at 6pm saying "the babys fallen asleep in my mums arms, she's really tired so my mum is cuddling her" I told him to take the baby off of his mother and keep her awake. There is no way she should be napping at 6 in the evening. Anyways we've had a full blown argument over it and I've told him every single time he has our daughter it makes my life harder, she comes back wide awake, and doesn't go down to sleep until 11 o'clock at night at times for me, all because those idiots let her sleep their whole visit away.

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DenimBird · 10/12/2024 23:02

Antihistamine62 · 10/12/2024 22:54

This would majorly piss me off too.
I know it’s nice to have a break. But tell him to shove it. He’s the type who thinks he’s doing you a favour by ‘watching’ his own child. Pathetic x

He actually does act like he's treating me when he has her lol

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DenimBird · 10/12/2024 23:04

Snugglemonkey · 10/12/2024 22:56

This is terrible advice. The visits are to the child's father. By all means, schedule granny time for breaks or child care, but you cannot just cut the father out if discussions around parenting. He is the parent!

But he's not pulling the weight like a parent.

You can think you have equal rights to the main parent when at the most all you do is watch tv with your child 3 times a week

Never done a load of her washing, has stopped paying for anything towards her, doesn't do over nights or weekends lol

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DenimBird · 10/12/2024 23:05

DenimBird · 10/12/2024 23:04

But he's not pulling the weight like a parent.

You can think you have equal rights to the main parent when at the most all you do is watch tv with your child 3 times a week

Never done a load of her washing, has stopped paying for anything towards her, doesn't do over nights or weekends lol

Sorry this reply was for someone else, not your comment

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DenimBird · 10/12/2024 23:06

Snugglemonkey · 10/12/2024 22:56

This is terrible advice. The visits are to the child's father. By all means, schedule granny time for breaks or child care, but you cannot just cut the father out if discussions around parenting. He is the parent!

Yes, also I will not be 'cherishing' the bare minimum from him

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Bearhunt468 · 10/12/2024 23:14

Id probably jus cut his time down and let him take you to court for access and put a CM claim in and contact grandmother to say when grandma can see the baby at time that suits you better.

Snugglemonkey · 10/12/2024 23:35

DenimBird · 10/12/2024 23:04

But he's not pulling the weight like a parent.

You can think you have equal rights to the main parent when at the most all you do is watch tv with your child 3 times a week

Never done a load of her washing, has stopped paying for anything towards her, doesn't do over nights or weekends lol

I absolutely understand that it is infuriating. But this is her father. You picked him. I appreciate that you may have not realised he would turn out to be a useless twat, but you cannot stop him having contact. Or bypass him and go to his mother (unless he is grand with that).

I get that it is awful, but nit only does he have a right to see her, she has a right to see him.

Unless, of course, he actually is stoned around her. Then you can push for contact centre set up.

In all likelihood, though, you will be dealing with this prick for a long time. It would be best for your own mental health if you can find a way to make peace with the fact that he can just sit and watch tv, he can feed her nothing but McDonald's, he can have overnights and let her run around until she drops, unless he actually hurts her (and I have seen plenty of that not even counting), it is very unlikely that he would not be granted some access.

He would need to go to court though, would he?

Snugglemonkey · 10/12/2024 23:38

DenimBird · 10/12/2024 23:06

Yes, also I will not be 'cherishing' the bare minimum from him

Of course not, why should you? You have every right to feel whatever you feel. But the sad fact is, that he can do the bare minimum and totally get away with it. Until your child grows up and catches on.

Endofyear · 11/12/2024 00:49

Are you saying he's stoned while he's looking after your daughter? If that's the case, I would stop access and tell him to take you to court if he wants. It's irresponsible to allow her to be looked after by someone who's under the influence of drugs.

CheeseTime · 11/12/2024 02:49

Not very clear what you actually want OP. Would you rather he didn’t have her at all? Fewer hours?
It’s not as if he will put up much of a fight by the sounds of it.
Why isn’t there any maintenance if he has money for weed and weekend benders? Have you put in a claim? Might as least focus his mind on what his obligations are.

Ovalframes · 11/12/2024 03:45

DenimBird · 10/12/2024 21:12

Never even thought of that!!

Seriously? You haven't considered the risks of him smoking/ using drugs around your baby?

Imonmyway · 11/12/2024 04:03

Can you speak to his mother? I'd say 2 hours a day if she sleeps the other 2 anyway she mat aswell be st home. He might try keep her awake then! Sleeping at tha time is too late for a11 months old.

Does she nap 2 hours or 3 with you? Would a reduction in nsp time on your end work? On his days...

DenimBird · 11/12/2024 07:09

CheeseTime · 11/12/2024 02:49

Not very clear what you actually want OP. Would you rather he didn’t have her at all? Fewer hours?
It’s not as if he will put up much of a fight by the sounds of it.
Why isn’t there any maintenance if he has money for weed and weekend benders? Have you put in a claim? Might as least focus his mind on what his obligations are.

I cant claim CM as he does not have a proper job, he works the odd day here and there for his dad which is cash in hand

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Guest100 · 11/12/2024 07:12

Don’t let her nap before she goes. She can have her nap in granny’s arms as soon as she gets there.

thepariscrimefiles · 11/12/2024 07:49

TheHateIsNotGood · 10/12/2024 22:07

The baby feels comforted enouh to sleep in her Grandmother's arms; a sleeping baby is a happy baby. I understand how angry you must be, I have been the same, but please cherish the thought your baby has a GM who cares enough and a father who is a bit involved a few days a week.

So many DM's on here in committed, overtly happy relationships post about the failures of their loving partners when a baby comes along - so many times it doesn't pan out quite as equal as they thought it would.

Maybe you could speak more with your ex-partner's DM/baby's GM about the baby who you both love and find an arrangement that suits you both and the baby better. Your ex can just fit himself into the arrangement.

I'm assuming that her ex-MIL knows that her son doesn't contribute a penny in child support, that he refuses to have the baby overnight and does absolutely nothing with the baby except sit on the sofa and watch TV, so I hardly think that she is grandmother of the year for holding a sleeping baby.

And the fact that you think that the OP should cherish the thought that her baby has a father who is a teeny tiny bit involved a few days a week is absolutely ridiculous.

thepariscrimefiles · 11/12/2024 07:56

DenimBird · 10/12/2024 22:34

I could maybe narrow his days to 2 days a week I suppose

As for the 3-5 I don't think he would be happy with just 2 hours. Even tho it seems like he can't be bothered as it is

If I'm being honest I think he only keeps the relationship going because his mother likes seeing the baby

Well his mum brought up an absolute twat of a son and still enables him to behave like this so I wouldn't take her wants/needs into consideration.

Comff · 11/12/2024 08:19

Why are you ignoring the drug use around your 11month old baby??

RoachFish · 11/12/2024 08:35

He sounds horrible, spriteful and controlling. He's most likely doing this with the sole purpose of messing up your evenings and he likes that he has control over that.

I would come down hard on him and make sure that he needs to have clean drugs tests if he wants unsupervised access to your DD and until then he can only see her under supervised forms in a contact centre. You'd most likely need to go to court for that but having a drugged up father around a baby is super dangerous. Also, claim CM right now. It sounds like he has a job so you will get something at least. He can't just choose to not pay anything. Right now it's all on his terms but he's the least important person in this trio.

RoachFish · 11/12/2024 08:37

DenimBird · 11/12/2024 07:09

I cant claim CM as he does not have a proper job, he works the odd day here and there for his dad which is cash in hand

You can and you should. You will get something even if he's on benefits. It won't cover more than a teeny tiny portion of what a baby costs, but it's the principle. You need to take back control.

DenimBird · 11/12/2024 08:54

Any one saying I'm ignoring the fact he's drugged up around my daughter, it is n secret that he smokes weed. He promises he doesn't do it around her and until I have proof what exactly can I do

As for me saying about he looks stoned, he has that stupid dopey look on his face 24/7

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DenimBird · 11/12/2024 08:55

thepariscrimefiles · 11/12/2024 07:49

I'm assuming that her ex-MIL knows that her son doesn't contribute a penny in child support, that he refuses to have the baby overnight and does absolutely nothing with the baby except sit on the sofa and watch TV, so I hardly think that she is grandmother of the year for holding a sleeping baby.

And the fact that you think that the OP should cherish the thought that her baby has a father who is a teeny tiny bit involved a few days a week is absolutely ridiculous.

The bare minimum aswell

Wouldnt surprose me if He only sees the baby to see what's going on in my life

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DenimBird · 11/12/2024 08:56

RoachFish · 11/12/2024 08:37

You can and you should. You will get something even if he's on benefits. It won't cover more than a teeny tiny portion of what a baby costs, but it's the principle. You need to take back control.

I made a claim last night, I'll probably get £5 a week lol

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RoachFish · 11/12/2024 08:58

DenimBird · 11/12/2024 08:56

I made a claim last night, I'll probably get £5 a week lol

That's great! That's at least one less way he can mess you around.

Ellerby83 · 11/12/2024 09:42

Does she smell of weed when she gets back?

SleepPrettyDarling · 11/12/2024 09:50

Does he have a pram or stroller to even take her out? She’ll be toddling soon, and him lolling on the sofa won’t cut it.

Could you cut down to two visits a week, say drop the midweek one so you’re not battling every second night to settle her?

DenimBird · 11/12/2024 09:55

Ellerby83 · 11/12/2024 09:42

Does she smell of weed when she gets back?

She did once or twice in the past and I had it out with him be cause of that. But past few months no

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