Mounjaro offending close "friends"

[Hope78]

I have bitten the bullet and started using Mounjaro. I pay for it privately through a reputable private clinic , and in a nutshell its been incredible.

Long story as short as poss.... I'm a well built 5ft7 woman who has been anything from 10st to 13.7st over years , ideal weight 11st happy and feel good, have gone into perimenopause , started HRT and basically CANNOT shift stubborn 2st. I told my GP my plans and he agreed as BMI verging on obese (13st4) .....decision was 6 months in making with a LOT of research before starting it ....anyway ....

I have lost my first half stone ( in 10 days ) and with close friends at the weekend told them i was on the injection and how great i feel ( not just food noise but ADHD symptoms better too ) my friends were so happy for me bar one who could not hide her disgust. This person has a stunning figure, always been a petite size 8, always attracted a lot of male attention, and has been known to be quite fattest over the years to anyone chubby. She basically said it was cheating, said i would be fatter long term and i know that behind my back is slagging me off ..
I've always been confident despite my different weights but i did get a lot of compliments especially from other husbands of how well i looked , and it seemed to REALLY annoy her she has stopped messaging me as much and has declined Xmas invites for drinks at mine.
Its got me thinking that this injection is a real shift long term for men and women , but psychologically its maybe pissing off people that don't struggle????
Another friend was shocked i even told people but im not that sort of person , I'm an open book and chatty and don't see the point ? maybe i should have just kept my mouth shut ? AIBU to feel shocked and disappointed by this ?

Presumably for some people it makes being thin more accessible and less of an achievement for them.

No. The jabs don’t accelerate any muscle loss. Muscle loss is common on any diet if you do not manage it correctly, What’s key is to consume enough protein and exercise. The jabs are not relevant to that.

of course if you are generally fit, as well as fat, then you will lose some muscle . For example. I had 7 stone of muscle out of 15 stone. My skeleton weighs approx 1 and a half stone. When I achieve my target weight of 10.7 stone, I doubt I can have 7 stone of muscle. So I will lose some muscle mass. Depending on age, 35-45 percent of your body should be muscle. So I estimate I will likely lose some muscle.

right now, I have lost 23 pounds after 8 weeks, of which 1 pound was muscle. The rest was fat. So as I exercise a lot and ensure I eat my protein, I am mainly losing fat with very limited muscle loss.

i would estimate I will lose more muscle as I move down. But if I continue to exercise, and consume protein. I should maintain it at a healthy and fit level appropriate for my body.

however if you don’t do that, then you will lose a lot of muscle. You can tell when that happens, often flat backsides, general sagginess and dropping on the body as no muscle to hold it up. That kind of thing.

@Onceachunkymonkey if you ‘don’t do that’ for whatever reason within a certain window can you do it later & get some good muscle tone?

How many overweight women have heard the disparaging ‘oh she’s got a really pretty face’ & often ‘great hair’. Guess what? Soon they’ll have killer bodies too & as this thread evidences some are uncomfortable with that - poss the ‘pretty face’ brigade.

Yes of course you can do it later but it will be much much harder and take way more work.

On a tangent though, it's mad how differently shaped we all are.. I'm your height and look slim at that weight.

This is so true. I think muscle mass plays into it too. I know I have quite a high muscle mass and at my ‘skinniest’ I dropped just below 9 stone, but was a size 6-8 and looked just as slim as my friend who was the same height and a stone lighter and my waist was tiny!

I know from the weight loss boards a lot of women my height aim to be 8 stone and I’m sure that’s the right weight for them, but I know that wouldn’t look good on me.

Thank you so much for articulating so beautifully exactly how I feel. I have been thinking about trying Mounjaro but I’ve felt ashamed and embarrassed and you’ve just given me the exact words I needed to explain why I want to try it. 🤗

@Tristanthebrave how tall are you?

5ft 2 give or take a half inch 😂

So for my BMI to be less than 25, I need to
be maximum 9 stone 10 I think.

I definitely look better at the upper end of my “healthy weight range” so 9stone-9.5 stone (ish)

Ignore her! A real friend would just be happy for you. Saying that, I’m into my second week and haven’t told anyone yet, as I’m too worried about responses like this, so your post is making me question this in myself! I’ve been diagnosed with several serious lifelong health conditions, am now largely bed or chair bound, can no longer walk more than a few metres unaided, perimenopausal and have pre diabetes. Since diagnosis I put on 3 stone in a year and without being able to exercise literally nothing is working. I already feel like crap without being some sort of giant bed slug, so I’m really hoping it works… I get it OP, enjoy the results and try to shut out the negativity, at least you were brave enough to tell people!

I spotted a male friend was on it within about 10 secs of not seeing him for a bit? How? His jeans at back bagging off bum & thighs. Jeans I’ve seen are a dead giveaway if really wanting others not to know, so size down & enjoy!

I'm so glad - there is nothing to be embarrassed or ashamed about.

I’m afraid your petite little friend , likes being the only girl in the room who is petite and cute. She is afraid of losing her crown, in other words she is jealous of you. But that’s her problem . If it was me I would keep it to myself about my new adventure with Mounjaro after all it’s your choice your business. Good luck

You should ignore so called friend this is about your health and you are taking action. Good for you. I am in the position you were in and tempted to try Injections can I ask what you pay please and where from? Thank you.

Definitely, muscle mass in your case and in my case a wide skeleton

By all means take Mounjaro under safe and monitored conditions of course. Take it for a while and see how you get on. Personally I would keep it to myself maybe tell a few people you feel you can trust who will not be judgemental towards you. Good luck

I've kept quiet for this reason. I don't want to listen to the inevitable negative comments. I've been it for just over 3cmonths and lost over 2.5 stone. I only weigh once a month to keep myself sane so could well be more.

To say it's cheating is just not true. Yes it massively reduced food noise and I just don't fancy lots of things now especially fatty food or fizzy drinks I've had every bloody side effect going so it's been far from easy. Diarrhoea, constipation, acid, nausea, stomach cramps plus others . But its still made weight loss possible after years on slimming world where I did loose weight but completely messed up my relationship with food. Hip and ankle pain has already gone and I don't get out of breath climbing the stairs at work

Keep up the good work, and all you need to remember is that you're doing this for your health and yourself x

Welcome to the weight loss jabs police. I call them the 'jab nots'. And for people who think using them is an easy cop-out,I can assure you,that having used them myself and been through the unpleasant side effects,they are anything but!

Quite frankly I don’t give a shit my dear…that’s my stance. Because I’ve been overweight for so many years I don’t even know what it’s like to be a ‘normal’ size. I’ve lost almost 4 stone and have the same and a bit more to go. MJ has given me my life back for me and my children. I can run after my autistic eloping child, I can walk for miles without feeling like I’m dying. I’m not reliant on food when I feel stressed or sad and number one, I’m doing what’s right for me. Why do people think their opinion is even necessary?! This “you’ll just put it back on” rhetoric. Oh I’m sorry, can I have a look in that crystal ball you have there love? Nah, didn’t think so. Honest to goodness, boils my piss. Hope she doesn’t fall off that pedestal and if she does it’s f*cking karma!

OP I’m so proud of you for choosing the right tool to help you do this. Every single person losing weight or improving their health uses tools, whether they be MJ to silence the food noise, going to the gym or someone doing Atkins or weight loss shakes. Ignore those saying it’s cheating, why is that even a thing 🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ what a load of old horse crap. You do you! 🥳🙌🏼

Me too. Told one friend who made it quite clear she doesn’t agree with it so keep it quiet now. Lost 45 pounds now and extremely happy!

It's not a quick fix. It's a weight loss drugs with some horrible side effects. If it's working to retrain your brain into eating less so you lose weight then good for you! If your friends can't see that then get new friends...

Yes I understand your perspective too. I am thin/toned but it comes with so much graft-I go the gym every day and do lots of weights and running (several 10k plus runs a week) and even on holidays I find hotels that have gyms and go every day there. I also follow keto diet and eat well 70/80% of the time so it’s not like I am ‘lucky’ or ‘gifted’ it’s a lot of work and also involves guilt when I can’t go or eat more than usual. But totally agree with these injections to help those who have health issues due to their weight and certainly wouldn’t put a friend down who is using them either.

That makes no sense at all. If his jeans were loose it means simply he’s lost weight.

@Onceachunkymonkey seems obvious I agree but it’s a thing, yes he’s lost weight but fairly rapidly & the jeans at the back esp where it was showing. I’ve seen on most on it who wear jeans on jabs. Poss you don’t realise as you can’t see behind easily but IME it’s a particular tell.

@pollymere do the jabs actually ‘retrain your brain into eating less’ when you come off?

@User14March no, the drugs don’t do this. You do. The drugs impact insulin, food noise (because your body/insulin/grelin response is controlled, freeing you up to learn how much/little you can eat at meals and be satisfied, how much exercise you need to do daily/weekly to maintain weight-loss or to simply maintain), so that YOU can retain yourself to eat less.