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Buttonsmum67 · 09/12/2024 10:29

I will preface this by saying my mother is queen Narcissist.

Last year I did a DNA Ancestry test with my kids for a fun present. My youngest's came back with a random name as his maternal grandfather- then my eldest's came back with the same thing. Then mine with this random man as my father.

I with the help of friends managed to send my mother a message asking for an explanation. She said it must be wrong etc and told me to stop being ridiculous. At this point I did another one and it came back with the same match as before with this random man.

I messaged again and said I wanted answers now. She turned up at my house at 5am in floods of tears saying she had been attacked by a man and she had thought she had got rid of me with the morning after pill and then two months later found out she was pregnant again and had thought it was a miracle to come from something so horrible (she thought I was my dad's, as in my dad who bought me up). She asked me to promise that I would never say anything to anyone as it would ruin her marriage.

When we matched with this other gentlemen he messaged me immediately asking wtf was going on. I told him my mothers name trying to gauge any panic from him and he wrote back a long message saying basically omg we had a couple of months long affair when I was working with her- he mentioned my dads name and that they used to meet while my dad was working nights etc and she called it all off when my dad asked her to marry him. He has asked to meet but I have put that on the back burner for now as I don't know which story is true. And before anyone judges me about saying I don't think my mother would lie about being attacked, she has lied about having serious illness before to get out of arguments she created.

She then began what I can only describe as a hate campaign against me- making up stories to my siblings and dad about how she had had to borrow me money etc and I wasn't paying it back- none of which were true.

Since last year we now never speak. I have messaged and called my dad and even turned up at their house to speak to him and he has said his loyalties lie with my mother and I have greatly upset her with my behaviour. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING! Every time I call his phone she picks up and says you won't be saying anything will you.

When I say she was abusive growing up I am in therapy as still in my 30s I struggle to stand up to her.

This morning my aunts messaged me saying about my brothers weddings (He is her golden child and doesn't make any effort to contact me or my sister back). I haven't been invited. I am seething.

I feel like drinking a bottle of wine and writing to every member of my family what has happened to stop this bull, but I also don't want to ruin my dads life. He is so under the thumb with her I don't think he'd kick off anyway.

But here I am sitting a year later left on my own thinking I'm a product of rape and now being completely cut out of the family. My mother says she was attacked, my biological dad said they were having a fully consensual affair, I haven't told him what my mum said.

But I feel like I am keeping a massive secret for the benefit of everyone else and now I am the one being ostracised. I am so upset I am being cut out.

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Buttonsmum67 · 10/12/2024 08:21

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17 year old. Obviously he is doing A Levels to get into Uni for it and is volunteering so its the end goal- he's no where near it yet lol.

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BrushedSuede · 10/12/2024 08:17

A DNA test as "fun", which has the potential to tell you your father is not who you thought? A strange idea of fun.

Can such tests only identify individuals who've given DNA samples? How does it work? Curious.

As has been said several times. You can only match with people who have also done a DNA test on that site and who have opted in to get matches. Most people use it to build their family tree, to collaborate with relatives on doing so.
Many people, and I'm one, derive lots of pleasure from genealogy. When you start it's often the case that you find skeletons in the closet. One of my ancestors was sentenced to transportation for bestiality, for example.
The problem isn't with doing the test, it's the fact that lies have been told about parentage.

ChicBee · 10/12/2024 08:22

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WhoIsBetty · 10/12/2024 05:38

Very few people would meet diagnostic criteria for a Narcissistic Personality Disorder but plenty could be described as having a narcissistic personality style.

Regardless of what you call it, the OP is an adult survivor of at best poor parenting, at worst child abuse. Her mother has lied about having a serious illness to protect herself. The OP is in therapy to process what her mother has previously done and needed support to write the message - presumably ti get the wording right and to be sensitive (the opposite of bull in a China shop).

Her mother has basically then done everything she can to protect herself and her tears were all about her and no sense of consideration for her daughter. She has LIED ABOUT HER OWN DAUGHTER to turn everyone against her.

She fits the bill for a narcissistic personality style easily but if we don’t call it that, it’s very obvious that she has always been a liar. Has always put her own fragile ego before other people. Wasn’t a great mother when the OP was little. Lied to her husband. And now is ostracising and scapegoating the OP for her own reasons so zero empathy.

You are now gaslighting the OP into thinking that she did something wrong. She did not cause this.

She has done nothing wrong. Her mother is the ONLY culpable person here.

I agree and she's lied about OP's dad attacking her which is disgraceful.

ChicBee · 10/12/2024 08:23

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LunaNorth · 10/12/2024 08:23

There’s a whole podcast on this issue called ‘The Gift’. Lots of skeletons are tumbling out of closets due to these DNA testing kits. There are some truly astonishing stories on it.

CautiousLurker01 · 10/12/2024 08:24

BrushedSuede · 10/12/2024 08:17

A DNA test as "fun", which has the potential to tell you your father is not who you thought? A strange idea of fun.

Can such tests only identify individuals who've given DNA samples? How does it work? Curious.

My kids (same age as OPs) have asked to do this - they’re interested in understanding their ‘ethnic’ heritage. My DH has a genetic blood disorder that is confined to people of Celtic origin and passed with genes from both sides, paternal grandfather looks spanish not celtic! Similarly, I have a very rare genetic issue that suggests I have Ashkenazi ethnicity (it’s more than 1 in a million chance of having it, unless you live in Israel, where it is 9% of population and is therefore routinely tested for). As I never new my father and my mother never knew hers, we have significant black holes in our understanding of where we came from.

My kids are really keen to find out what a DNA test might tell us - do we have gypsy/romany blood, black ancestors from Africa, links to the Romans - for them it is ‘fun’. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Buttonsmum67 · 10/12/2024 08:25

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Yes, he is doing his A Levels and undertaking a separate mental health course with work placements...so yes he is undertaking his education to become one?

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Buttonsmum67 · 09/12/2024 15:52

Its Ancestry.com

You can opt in to have your personal details sent to matches that are made and show you the connection. Of course they can only show you matches who have also tested and consented with Ancestry.com

Ancestry.com absolutely lets you see names if there is consent. I did it and it told me my Aunt was my Aunt and 3 of my cousins as well. OP is correct in saying it gives names out.

VivaDixie · 10/12/2024 08:25

OP please ignore @ChicBee who is just trying to goaf you

My advice would be to write letters to your family telling them what you know then cut them all out of your life for good

You are damned if you do and damned if you don't so you have nothing to lose

And fwiw I believe everything you have said. I have a narc in my family who is very similar and I am very low contact.

ChicBee · 10/12/2024 08:27

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CautiousLurker01 · 10/12/2024 08:28

Buttonsmum67 · 10/12/2024 08:25

Yes, he is doing his A Levels and undertaking a separate mental health course with work placements...so yes he is undertaking his education to become one?

I wouldn’t rise to that particular poster any more.

ChicBee · 10/12/2024 08:28

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Buttonsmum67 · 10/12/2024 08:29

VivaDixie · 10/12/2024 08:25

OP please ignore @ChicBee who is just trying to goaf you

My advice would be to write letters to your family telling them what you know then cut them all out of your life for good

You are damned if you do and damned if you don't so you have nothing to lose

And fwiw I believe everything you have said. I have a narc in my family who is very similar and I am very low contact.

It's so difficult when you try and speak to people who have normal parents to explain the insanity of it. My friends who I would speak to after my interactions with her would always be like...oh it's just how she is. It's only been since this and sharing her text screenshots with them they are fully on board and shocked with how vile she actually is.

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Buttonsmum67 · 10/12/2024 08:29

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Ok lol. Thank you for your career advice. We have in on lock though 😍

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CautiousLurker01 · 10/12/2024 08:30

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Will you just stop?

Pussycat22 · 10/12/2024 08:31

DNA testing? For fun? That's the most stupid and one of the most personally dangerous things I've ever heard in my life. Now look at the hornets nest you've created for yourself.

PearPartridge · 10/12/2024 08:31

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Just be grateful it's outside your experience rather than insinuating the OP is lying. In dysfunctional families it's quite common for everyone to pander to a toxic manipulator for an easy life and exclude the scapegoat.(OP)

Pussycat22 · 10/12/2024 08:34

Shame on the company who makes this kit. It's made a lot of people very unhappy.

Buttonsmum67 · 10/12/2024 08:34

Pussycat22 · 10/12/2024 08:31

DNA testing? For fun? That's the most stupid and one of the most personally dangerous things I've ever heard in my life. Now look at the hornets nest you've created for yourself.

It was for fun- it shows your heritage and personality traits and how much dna you share with other family members who have done it.

I haven't created a hornets nest, I've been lied to for 37 years and missed out on an entire relationship with another side of the family, let alone not been aware of any genetic diseases whilst giving doctors my medical history whilst I was pregnant etc.

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Because you are chipping away at her

Classic manipulation tactics actually. Chipping away at someone who is already struggling.

Onlycoffee · 10/12/2024 08:35

Buttonsmum67 · 10/12/2024 08:29

It's so difficult when you try and speak to people who have normal parents to explain the insanity of it. My friends who I would speak to after my interactions with her would always be like...oh it's just how she is. It's only been since this and sharing her text screenshots with them they are fully on board and shocked with how vile she actually is.

Yes this.
The levels of toxicity in your family are not surprising to me, you are being scapegoated and everyone else is conditioned to believe and obey your mother.

The whole situation is so messed up but are you able to get any more information from your mother about what she says took place? I can forsee her contradicting herself or saying something that reveals her lies.

VivaDixie · 10/12/2024 08:37

Buttonsmum67 · 10/12/2024 08:29

It's so difficult when you try and speak to people who have normal parents to explain the insanity of it. My friends who I would speak to after my interactions with her would always be like...oh it's just how she is. It's only been since this and sharing her text screenshots with them they are fully on board and shocked with how vile she actually is.

Exactly. 'its just how she is' has been trotted out forever to excuse narcissistic behaviour

Well done for breaking the cycle. I constantly work on this too with my DC x