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Passengers sigh when they remove bag off neighbouring seat on PT

189 replies

nfg · 07/12/2024 05:49

Unless you paid for two seats or have 2 passes for yourself and bag, people should not be using seat next to them for their bag(s)

OP posts:
LeBonBon · 08/12/2024 21:34

My favourite is getting on a fairly empty LNER train in the morning (origin station) with the traffic light system:

Red for booked,
Amber for available until X station and
Green for Free

Getting to my booked seat (which is more often than not surrounded by ambers and an entire green section) and finding someone sat in my seat with all their stuff laid out all over.

I hate having to tell anyone to move first thing in the morning, twice a week, but it always happens. Have had the sorrys, the sighs and the 'fcks sakes'. Learn to read people!!

clareken260 · 08/12/2024 21:35

I ask, and say thanks. Only had a problem once with a 20 something child who didn't want to move her bags, who wouldn't acknowledge that they should have been put in the luggage space, and spent the rest of the journey on the phone bi*hing about me. Tbh no f*ks were given.

coxesorangepippin · 08/12/2024 21:37

I know.....as if the bag needs a seat??

Newsflash, humans needs seats

Anyotherdude · 08/12/2024 23:17

SleepyHippy3 · 07/12/2024 06:53

But bags are often put on the dirty ground, and then those very same bags get put on a seat meant for people. Given this, what is the difference between dirty shoes and the dirty bag? I think neither should be on the seat.

My handbag doesn’t ever go on any floor except in my house - where the floor is clean! This is a habit I picked up after stashing my shopping bags and handbag on the floor in a cafe, only to find that the previous table occupants had left their baby’s vomit on the floor without clearing it up (this was 30+ years ago). My handbag and other bags have always been kept away from public floors ever since!

Polkadotz · 08/12/2024 23:26

Wolfpa · 07/12/2024 12:12

I think a lot of people are just blissfully unaware that they have to share the world with other people. It’s like people who insist on taking their dog onto a busy train and letting it sit on a seat. Why would anyone think that was acceptable.

I actually think this is more of a problem. I don’t want to sit where someone’s dog has been sitting. I was on a super crowded train once and this man and his huge dog took up most of a 6 seater area, so there was only room for maybe 3 others when there should’ve been space for 5 other humans. Considering how many were standing up it was so rude. I wondered did he really need to travel with his dog at 5:30pm from Liverpool to Manchester.

Polkadotz · 08/12/2024 23:28

Anyotherdude · 08/12/2024 23:17

My handbag doesn’t ever go on any floor except in my house - where the floor is clean! This is a habit I picked up after stashing my shopping bags and handbag on the floor in a cafe, only to find that the previous table occupants had left their baby’s vomit on the floor without clearing it up (this was 30+ years ago). My handbag and other bags have always been kept away from public floors ever since!

Yeah I find it gross when people put their bags on the ground. I haven’t did that since my uni days. But I guess a lot of people do.

Firethehorse · 08/12/2024 23:40

TheOccupier · 07/12/2024 08:41

Can't get worked up about sighing. I do roll my eyes at bullies who passive aggressively demand the seat with the bag on it when the train's still half empty though. Never seen one of them challenge a manspreader, it's always women who are targeted.

A paying passenger who wishes to sit in a specific area of a train is not a bully. Your eye roll is unwarranted. You fancied that area of the train and maybe another passenger also wished to be near the luggage rack, toilet, cafe, door etc.

JohnTheRevelator · 09/12/2024 00:14

I regularly experience this. I have quite bad mobility issues (rheumatoid and osteoarthritis of hips and knees) so I need to sit down on public transport. On the bus that I use regularly,one of the priority seats is next to the luggage rack, and there is only about 10 inches of space for your legs. I find it extremely uncomfortable not being able to straighten my legs out for a 20 minute journey and avoid sitting in this seat if at all possible. A few weeks ago,I got on the bus and a woman was sitting in the seat behind the seat I've just described,with her handbag on one of the seats. I asked (politely) if she could move her bag so I could sit down. She rolled her eyes,grabbed her handbag,then as I sat down said 'You could have quite easily sat in THAT seat' pointing to the seat in front which I try to avoid. I said 'I didn't want to sit in THAT seat'. She then proceeded to mutter under her breath for the rest of the journey. Honestly. Should I have to justify why I don't want to sit in a particular seat?

conflictedrenter · 09/12/2024 01:02

nfg · 07/12/2024 06:52

I went to the hospital on the bus with a crutch. Still given looks.

People need to understand that disabilities are hidden and injuries that affect walking/standing can happen at all ages.

i was heavily pregnant and commuting on the train to work. Many people made eye contact with me but refused to offer a seat (i was also wearing a badge), Fainted twice too. On my last day of work I remember sending a photo of myself standing to my husband whilst unknowingly in labour. My waters burst the day before but hospital said it was discharge but i went back the next day and indeed they did burst my LO just came a few weeks early. People are just rude nowadays.

BoldAmberDuck · 09/12/2024 07:24

Duc · 07/12/2024 07:58

It’s not very polite though eh? And suggests they’re annoyed and sighing is the passive aggressive way to let people know you’re not happy.

Rude and entitled as fuck of them

Edited

If they sighed at me I’d ask them ‘what is your problem?’

Ukrainebaby23 · 09/12/2024 09:07

CyranoDeBergerQuack · 07/12/2024 08:11

In the same vein, children, particularly those still in nappies, should not be in the actual basket of a shopping trolley. That's what the seat bit is for.
Very unhygienic

HRFT yes I agree with you, but at about 2y they aren't sensible enough to shop with you but are too big for the trolley seat, even if you can manoeuvre them in. Faced with the option of carrying said child whilst pushing trolley or plonking him in it, I go for in the trolley. He is actually genuinely comparatively calm but other people ramming him with trollies is unsafe.

DowntonFlabbie · 09/12/2024 11:20

BoldAmberDuck · 09/12/2024 07:24

If they sighed at me I’d ask them ‘what is your problem?’

That would be very confrontational and I very much doubt you would.
But if you did I'd say, you are obviously. 🤨

BoldAmberDuck · 09/12/2024 14:16

DowntonFlabbie · 09/12/2024 11:20

That would be very confrontational and I very much doubt you would.
But if you did I'd say, you are obviously. 🤨

Really? Why? They would be the person at fault surely?

BoldAmberDuck · 09/12/2024 14:29

DowntonFlabbie · 07/12/2024 11:41

Since when is it my job to pretend to be happy when I'm not, to make you feel better?
As long as people move their bags to.let others sit, they can sigh or sing jingle bells for all it has to do with you.

Rude

MereDintofPandiculation · 09/12/2024 14:43

nfg · 07/12/2024 06:47

Had people who were reluctant to remove their bag. Just say "have you paid for your bag to have a seat?" is a guaranteed way of them moving their bags.

Unnecessarily rude. “Please can you move your bag?” Is plain enough.

MereDintofPandiculation · 09/12/2024 14:46

Firethehorse · 08/12/2024 23:40

A paying passenger who wishes to sit in a specific area of a train is not a bully. Your eye roll is unwarranted. You fancied that area of the train and maybe another passenger also wished to be near the luggage rack, toilet, cafe, door etc.

It’s usually “that’s a small slim woman, if I sit there I’ll have plenty of space,whereas if I go to that other seat, a large man may geton at the next stop and sit beside me”

MereDintofPandiculation · 09/12/2024 14:52

Clafoutie · 07/12/2024 13:09

Yet I have always thought that people sitting resolutely on the outside seat are trying to ensure they don’t have to sit next to anyone! So it is interesting to read your different perspective.
Regarding putting a bag on a seat, I think one problem is that there is so little space on public transport that an empty seat becomes the only obvious place to put it. I think people should always be moving a bag though when it gets busy and you see people looking for a seat.
On the bus I go on daily, the upstairs seats are full of people stretched out with their big dirty trainers on the seats. It enrages me!

I’m a small slim woman. So if someone large sits next to me, not only do they spikl sideways into my seat, they’re also larger front to back. Often their shoulders overspill in front of mine. The aisle seat is less claustrophobic

EmpressaurusKitty · 09/12/2024 15:14

I’m a small slim woman too. If someone sits next to me I make very sure that I take up the whole of my seat, by slipping my bag in between us if necessary.

FeetLikeFlippers · 09/12/2024 15:50

What does PT mean in this context?

peppeRomia · 09/12/2024 15:53

FeetLikeFlippers · 09/12/2024 15:50

What does PT mean in this context?

I'm guessing public transport.

W0tnow · 09/12/2024 15:53

Public transport

DowntonFlabbie · 09/12/2024 15:54

BoldAmberDuck · 09/12/2024 14:29

Rude

You are, yes.

DowntonFlabbie · 09/12/2024 15:54

BoldAmberDuck · 09/12/2024 14:16

Really? Why? They would be the person at fault surely?

No. You would be for talking to me.

BoldAmberDuck · 09/12/2024 16:19

DowntonFlabbie · 09/12/2024 15:54

No. You would be for talking to me.

Someone’s tired! 😂

ACynicalDad · 09/12/2024 16:22

I sometimes deliberately go for the seat with the bag on the bus even if there is a free seat further back. I just think it's a bit rude.