Passengers sigh when they remove bag off neighbouring seat on PT

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Unless you paid for two seats or have 2 passes for yourself and bag, people should not be using seat next to them for their bag(s)

If the train is quiet enough I put my bag on a seat, it's easier to reach into and lift up. It's rare though. I usually look out the window as we pull in to stations and move my bag to the floor or table as soon as it looks like it's going to get busy. I'm more than happy to as people have paid to travel .

I prefer an aisle seat so I can't be squashed- I need to wriggle a lot- or trapped in next to a man. I know people will want to sit, so again, look around at stations and will happily stand aside to let someone in. I never move over to a window seat though.

As someone who does move stuff or springs aside happily I don't understand the goldilocks "but I want that seat next to youuuuuuuuuu" mentality when there are other seats available and everyone can sit more comfortably. It's a bit petty and pathetic to me. We all know what you're doing. Bravo you, striking a serious blow for justice. Nearly everyone moves stuff when asked when it's busy anyway and the ones that don't quickly realise they look like pricks ime, certainly round my way goldilocksing seems pretty rare and looks a bit precious when seen in the wild. I also get very suspicious when men do it in otherwise almost empty carriages. On a mn thread agreeing that this behaviour is absurd a woman said she now says no and directs them elsewhere when empty two and four seaters are available. She's my hero.

I once chased a man out of a four seater with a table on the way from Hull to London; he's the reason I take aisle seats only now. Nice empty carriage, another couple of empty four seaters available, I was the only one sat at mine and he asked if he could sit there too and sat next to me. When I asked if he wouldn't like to sit opposite and enjoy the room he said he gets travel sick and when I asked if he'd let me out to move opposite then as I didn't want to be cooped up with room available the precious little pet said something about how he felt unwanted or something and flounced. Boo hoo, waaaaa good riddance. That service - at least my carriage- stayed mostly empty the whole way. There had been absolutely no need to sit right next to me and he'd actually to walk a way down the carriage to get there. It's simply a weird thing to do.

I just want to say, as someone who cannot ask for a bag to be moved, I really appreciate those who do it when empty seats are still available.

I agree. People who leave their bag on the seat are banking on not being asked to move it.

But you are still putting a bag, that has been on the dirty floor, on a seat next to you, just for convenience! And then you say that if someone gets on, and needs that seat, you will put your bag on the floor, or „”table”? But then your bag is making the table dirty. Can you not do what the majority of people do and just keep your bags on the floor or in the over head hanger?

Does your daughter have a pass for a priority seat? On my train line you can get a pass if you need it and if anyone questions it you can show them the pass. You can also use the pass to make someone move from a priority seat.

If they are sighing because they’d hoped not to have to sit next to someone but, as the train is now busy, they are a bit disappointed .

It’s a sigh, not a personal attack. I just ignore it and sit down.

they sigh? but they move the bag? get over yourself.

But if you always put your bag on the table then it's never been on the floor.

What's the reason you can't ask?

I actually think that public transport needs more storage options.

UK trains should have carriages you can only put bikes and big luggage in like other places have. Buses should have more rack space.

i always make men move their bags if i have the choice, and i put the middle armrest down and push their manspreading legs out of the way if necessary. With my hand, so it is very clear what I'm doing.

But i can't get worked up about people sighing.

How is sighing not making a fuss. That comment makes me want to sigh.

I used to be a regular commuter on crowded trains. If I was unlucky enough to get a manspreader next to me, I would start to gently scratch myself. Never had to do it for long, they went away

Next time, sigh back, louder.

I wonder if anyone has ever been able to show a ticket they’ve actually bought for their bag 😂 I bet there are people who will also purchase the seat next to them just so they have the space.

Fine to feel dissapointed. Not fine to show that dissapointment to the OP.

It might be minor but it's still rude and entitled.

If I've put my bag on the seat next to me I always move it before people get on at the next station. They shouldn't have to ask for a bag to be moved.

As for the sighs, it's rude, as is 'Get over yourself'.

I hope you don't mind me asking, but why can't you ask?

Most people will move their bag if you are hovering next to the seat and the train is busy.

Me too, they usually move when they realise I’m happy for our legs to rub together. I asked a male friend recently why men do this, he said it’s uncomfortable to sit with legs together. I realised it’s uncomfortable for me/women too! But as there is often a man taking up 1.5 seats we either fit ourselves into half a seat or we can’t sit down

Do you end up sitting on their knee?

Since when is it my job to pretend to be happy when I'm not, to make you feel better?
As long as people move their bags to.let others sit, they can sigh or sing jingle bells for all it has to do with you.

If they sigh or roll their eyes but move their bag I give them a huge smile and a big thank you. Meet PA with PA.

When I was in secondary school, we use to have the occasional assembly about how to keep yourself safe. And one piece of advice we (the girls) were given was to put a bag on the seat next to you when you're on the bus to discourage people sitting next to you so you wouldn't be harassed by a guy. That always struck me as not feasible on busy buses but I wonder how many did this.

That's absolutely a reason people do it. I put my bag on the seat next to me on the train. When it gets busier, I remove it when I see someone who seems ok to sit next to, if possible,. generally by letting a woman have the seat. I'd rather not let a man, a seat hogger, a man spreader or a drunk/addict etc have it if I can prevent it.
Neither do.i care what anyone thinks about that

I think it’s just unnecessary. A lot of people find it difficult to ask someone to remove a bag, to ask and then the person sighs at you and you then have to sit next to them the whole journey it’s unnecessarily uncomfortable. If someone asks you to move a bag the answer should always be ‘of course’. I am a confident person and will always ask, it would annoy me if someone sighed at me when all I want to do is sit down!!