Man 42 dead from another dog attack

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https://www.itv.com/news/2024-12-05/man-42-dies-after-dog-attack-in-east-london

They don't seem to be saying yet what breed of dog it was, only that it was a 'fighting dog'

What's worse is that the owner was charged with it being dangerously out of control back in November too.

That poor man and his family.

They don't seem to be saying yet what breed of dog it was, only that it was a 'fighting dog'

When was dog fighting legalised in the UK ?

Why wasn’t the dog seized after the first incident!

You'll get people on here saying ' it's not the dog, it's the owner'. I would be willing to bet everything I own this won't be a golden retriever 😂

Presumably the owner needed it for fighting.

How is this an AIBU?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom

The numbers have significantly increased in the last few years.

9 deaths this year.

In terms of non fatal attacks:

Back in March 2023, using data collected from 37 of the 43 police forces in England and Wales, the BBC reported that dog attacks had risen by 34% over the preceding 5 years.

NHS statistics on people treated for dog bite injuries also show a significant increase over the last 20 years. In 2007-8, there were 4,699 recorded courses of treatment for dog bites or attacks. In 2022-23, this had risen to 9,336 courses of treatment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ced9w12dx8do - Dog bite to face in 2 year old that caused significant harm

Yet so many dog owners insist that no one should be afraid of dogs. Well, I am.

@HelenaWaiting I guess the AIBU is 'AIBU to think that this dog should have been removed and destroyed after the first incident?'

Well some people in the UK keep powerful aggressive dogs for whatever reason, and some people think that's not a good thing. So we need to have a debate on it.

Since more people in the UK don't own dogs than do own dogs, maybe we need to start listening to the majority - radical idea I know. I wonder if it will catch on ?

Becasue everything is and mnhq can't be arsed to moderate properly.

What a sad and tragic thing to happen. Awful news...

I bet my house it's an XL Bully.

I don't know why a laughing face emoji appeared on my post and I can't edit from the app. Whilst I meant what I wrote I wouldn't purposely 'laugh'at someone who has been seriously harmed or died.

There will probably be the usual tick list
Dangerous breed
Dodgy area
Rough as Feck owner
Bought it in the pub last week
It was a big softy - until it wasn't

Change the law so that the dog owner is treated as if the injury or death was personally inflicted by them. An extension of the legal concept of joint enterprise.

So in this case, manslaughter charges.

The 'dangerous fighting dog' terminology is interesting on this one.

Should have been zero tolerance and dog destroyed at the first incident. I wonder if we will start to see cases where the police are sued for not having acted on obviously dangerous dogs earlier.

Pretty much wanted to say this. ^

Aaaand reeeeach.

OOHHH, Good idea.
If you own something dangerous you should be responsible for it. I think maybe its Culpable Homicide in The US, assuming thats real and not just on TV

I think by "fighting breed" they mean some sort of bull type of dog, traditionally used for bull-baiting which was banned in 1835. Why we still have these breeds is beyond me. These dogs were bred for one thing, it's in their genes, we no longer "enjoy" outdated sports such as bull-baiting so why do we even have these type of dogs?!

In case we bring back dog fighting, I presume.

Yes, I get that, it's just different terminology to what they normally use in these cases. Normally it would be 'killed by a dog, investigations underway to determine whether it is a banned breed' type of thing.

Bit of a jump. I don't own a dog but I would not support putting down a harmless dog because of breed alone. Lots of people don't own dogs due to circumstances, not because of a dislike of dogs, and views on dogs and breed are pretty varied.

I do agree with harsher consequences for dog owners (certainly on a second incident, and definately if the owner is a repeat offender) and personally I am usually more in favour of proactive measures like potentially court mandated dog training and protective equipment after a minor incidents, and maybe mandatory dog education classes the way they offer speeding classes.

This is never going to end because the gov won't give local authorities and the police sufficient funding to properly deal with it.

What should happen is that anything that resembles a pitbull/xl bully/cane corso, basically any fighting breeds should be seized on sight and destroyed. Full stop. No fucking about. If it clearly is a bull breed or cross, seize it and destroy it.

Pitbulls had a ban but it hasn't been enforced so xl bullies derived from them. XL bullies have been bred en masse for years with zero control. It's no wonder they became a massive problem. If it wasn't tragic, it would be hilarious!

All those deaths and maulings could have been avoided if the DDA had been upheld instead of letting Pitbulls aka XL bullies take over the country.

@Potating 100%. Seize and destroy all fighting breeds. They're not necessary and a danger to others.

Get rid of all scumbags and the market for these dogs will disappear. Well the market for a lot of things will. Dog out to sleep and owner castrated so less chance of some poor child having that person for a parent. Can’t keep a dog then having a child is not a privilege you should have.

It's listed in "Shopping" !!