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Smelly and toxic

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largelyinnocent · 05/12/2024 12:41

My OH says that I smell unpleasant, and that I have no self-respect, that I disgust them, and so on. They call me a 'disgusting pig' in front of our son, and they say the same things to him too - that he smells bad. My son and I are both autistic, with issues around self-care, so, likely, we are not as fresh-smelling or clean as other people, I am not sure. We try our best.

As a result, I have become paranoid about this and no longer like meeting people since I am aware that I smell, even if I can't smell it myself. I have a weakened bladder due to recent bladder cancer and I am worried that perhaps this contributes to making me smell too, even though I am not aware of it. Because I smell so bad, my partner has refused to sleep with me now for over five years. They say that they would consider having a romantic relationship with me if I stopped smelling so bad, but I can't seem to become good enough.

I do try to keep clean and fresh, but my OH says that even if I have had a bath they are still repulsed by me because I 'obviously' have no self-respect, and that disgusts them as much as the smell, so having a bath in itself doesn't make me clean in their eyes. I am now retired, so I don't meet people socially or in public often, but when I do I am now self-conscious and I think everyone is aware of how I smell.

Yesterday I heard that my violent and abusive step-father died, and I spoke about on Facebook about how I felt about it. I hid it from family members because I didn't want to cause trouble for them. I also hid it from my OH because I thought they would be unsympathetic. But they discovered what I had said about my stepfather (all bad!) through another person and are now saying I am toxic because I didn't share my thoughts with them on Facebook, and that I shouldn't hide things from them.

Am I being unreasonable in thinking that I am not being treated fairly? It doesn't seem toxic to me to want to deal with a death in my family in my own way. The thing with my stepfather on top of the smell business and my loneliness make me wonder if I should get a divorce and end the relationship, but I am not sure if they haven't got a point. I am now retired and don't have many friends, so I am frightened of losing the little family I have, but at the same time I don't want to spend my final years with someone who finds me so repulsive and makes me so ashamed of myself.

OP posts:
Jumell · 05/12/2024 12:47

largelyinnocent · 05/12/2024 12:41

My OH says that I smell unpleasant, and that I have no self-respect, that I disgust them, and so on. They call me a 'disgusting pig' in front of our son, and they say the same things to him too - that he smells bad. My son and I are both autistic, with issues around self-care, so, likely, we are not as fresh-smelling or clean as other people, I am not sure. We try our best.

As a result, I have become paranoid about this and no longer like meeting people since I am aware that I smell, even if I can't smell it myself. I have a weakened bladder due to recent bladder cancer and I am worried that perhaps this contributes to making me smell too, even though I am not aware of it. Because I smell so bad, my partner has refused to sleep with me now for over five years. They say that they would consider having a romantic relationship with me if I stopped smelling so bad, but I can't seem to become good enough.

I do try to keep clean and fresh, but my OH says that even if I have had a bath they are still repulsed by me because I 'obviously' have no self-respect, and that disgusts them as much as the smell, so having a bath in itself doesn't make me clean in their eyes. I am now retired, so I don't meet people socially or in public often, but when I do I am now self-conscious and I think everyone is aware of how I smell.

Yesterday I heard that my violent and abusive step-father died, and I spoke about on Facebook about how I felt about it. I hid it from family members because I didn't want to cause trouble for them. I also hid it from my OH because I thought they would be unsympathetic. But they discovered what I had said about my stepfather (all bad!) through another person and are now saying I am toxic because I didn't share my thoughts with them on Facebook, and that I shouldn't hide things from them.

Am I being unreasonable in thinking that I am not being treated fairly? It doesn't seem toxic to me to want to deal with a death in my family in my own way. The thing with my stepfather on top of the smell business and my loneliness make me wonder if I should get a divorce and end the relationship, but I am not sure if they haven't got a point. I am now retired and don't have many friends, so I am frightened of losing the little family I have, but at the same time I don't want to spend my final years with someone who finds me so repulsive and makes me so ashamed of myself.

YANBU

OP I would definitely get divorced in this situation

my ex was like this - he sexually assaulted me at a time when sexual assaults didn’t have the profile they do know - no “me too” etc - best thing I did was get rid of him. When I look back now I can’t believe I was ever with him in the first place. He was every bit as abusive as my abusive mother

Chowtime · 05/12/2024 12:47

I think you need to

  1. Have a 5 minute daily shower
  2. Wear continence pants
  3. Ensure your DC has a daily 5 minute shower
  4. Dump your fucking horrible boyfriend.

Then, your life will be much improved.

BMW6 · 05/12/2024 12:48

Do you bathe/shower and clean your teeth every day?

Did your family acknowledge that your step father was violent and abusive or were they defending him?

When did DH start saying that you repulse him? How long ago?

fumanchu · 05/12/2024 12:49

Your OH is an abusive bully. You are aware of hygiene issues so I doubt you smell as much as he says. Your reaction to your stepfather's death is understandable and none of his business how you deal with it.

Balloonhearts · 05/12/2024 12:50

For someone supposed to love you, he is treating you badly. However I could not live with someone smelly and it does speak of a lack of self respect. It's not fair on others you live with to inflict your lack of hygiene on them and make their home an unpleasant place to be.

If my partner was dirty and always smelled, I'd have to leave him. If he couldn't respect me enough to wash properly when expecting to share my living space, I would have difficulty respecting him too.

However if he does leave you, I suspect you would be dodging a bullet. He doesn't exactly sound like a catch. He should be raising the issue with you kindly. If I were you I'd get in the shower and wash my hands of him while I was in there.

Jumell · 05/12/2024 12:50

fumanchu · 05/12/2024 12:49

Your OH is an abusive bully. You are aware of hygiene issues so I doubt you smell as much as he says. Your reaction to your stepfather's death is understandable and none of his business how you deal with it.

I also doubt you smell as much as he says, if indeed at all ..

BadPeopleFan · 05/12/2024 12:54

Balloonhearts · 05/12/2024 12:50

For someone supposed to love you, he is treating you badly. However I could not live with someone smelly and it does speak of a lack of self respect. It's not fair on others you live with to inflict your lack of hygiene on them and make their home an unpleasant place to be.

If my partner was dirty and always smelled, I'd have to leave him. If he couldn't respect me enough to wash properly when expecting to share my living space, I would have difficulty respecting him too.

However if he does leave you, I suspect you would be dodging a bullet. He doesn't exactly sound like a catch. He should be raising the issue with you kindly. If I were you I'd get in the shower and wash my hands of him while I was in there.

Edited

I agree with this, the way your partner is going about it is very wrong however it isn't fair to inflict our body odour on our family.
You may or may not smell as you haven't really mentioned how much you wash/change your clothes but either way you would be better off splitting up with someone that repulses you.

largelyinnocent · 05/12/2024 12:54

BMW6 · 05/12/2024 12:48

Do you bathe/shower and clean your teeth every day?

Did your family acknowledge that your step father was violent and abusive or were they defending him?

When did DH start saying that you repulse him? How long ago?

everyone agrees he was violently abusive. he was imprisoned for it.
they have been saying that I smell and refusing to have any intimacy for about five years. Before that though they were unhappy about other things.

OP posts:
Begsthequestion · 05/12/2024 12:55

Balloonhearts · 05/12/2024 12:50

For someone supposed to love you, he is treating you badly. However I could not live with someone smelly and it does speak of a lack of self respect. It's not fair on others you live with to inflict your lack of hygiene on them and make their home an unpleasant place to be.

If my partner was dirty and always smelled, I'd have to leave him. If he couldn't respect me enough to wash properly when expecting to share my living space, I would have difficulty respecting him too.

However if he does leave you, I suspect you would be dodging a bullet. He doesn't exactly sound like a catch. He should be raising the issue with you kindly. If I were you I'd get in the shower and wash my hands of him while I was in there.

Edited

Would you act like op's OH though? Name calling op after she had cancer, and verbally abusing a child?

He sounds cruel op. I think you should leave.

StellaAndCrow · 05/12/2024 12:57

I do try to keep clean and fresh, but my OH says that even if I have had a bath they are still repulsed by me

OP if your OH still doesn't think you are clean after a bath, HE is the problem, not you.

Mirabai · 05/12/2024 12:58

Bladder cancer is much more common in men, given the gender neutrality I guess this may be a bloke.

End the relationship OP, you can’t live like this.

BMW6 · 05/12/2024 12:58

Do you bathe/shower and clean your teeth every day?

What did they say about your criticism of step dad?

largelyinnocent · 05/12/2024 12:59

Mirabai · 05/12/2024 12:58

Bladder cancer is much more common in men, given the gender neutrality I guess this may be a bloke.

End the relationship OP, you can’t live like this.

for the record, I am male.

OP posts:
CatDays · 05/12/2024 13:00

I’m also autistic and understand the issues around self-care, but you do need to push yourself (and your child) to at least cover the minimum. How often are you brushing your teeth and bathing?

If we don’t take care of our hygiene, not only is it bad for us it’s also antisocial behaviour. There are ways to make it a bit less tedious. For example, you don’t need to wash your hair daily for example, you can use a dry shampoo in between to prolong the time between hair washes while still having fresh and clean smelling hair. For the urine issue, as someone mentioned you need to wear incontinence protection. No one enjoys the smell of old wee, and many autistics have highly sensitive sense of smell (myself included) and this sort of thing can literally make me start gagging if it’s bad enough. This isn’t a personal dig at you, it’s just an uncontrollable physical response. For your body, make sure to use antiperspirant daily to keep body odour down.

habgsidldjsbeudbsbsgdjebej · 05/12/2024 13:02

He's probably lying and he sound vile so needs to be dumped to be honest

Regardless if you are conscious have you tried
Fem fresh wash
Scented body lotion
Perfume
Hair perfume - yes it's a thing
Toothpaste from the dentist and mouth wash
Flossing
Scrubbing under your finger and toe nails
Prescription deodorant
Wear cotton clothes
Use scented fabric softener

habgsidldjsbeudbsbsgdjebej · 05/12/2024 13:02

Apprently Botox under the armpits help with odour also

habgsidldjsbeudbsbsgdjebej · 05/12/2024 13:03

Just read you are a man. All the above still can be used by men

habgsidldjsbeudbsbsgdjebej · 05/12/2024 13:04

Also what's your diet like as a bad diet can contribute to odour and if your overweight you may sweat more than agárrate which also contributes

lechatnoir · 05/12/2024 13:06

Your partner sounds like an abusive bully and there's no excuse for such cruelty to you let alone your son so the only advice on managing that is kick the miserable fucker out.

With regards your personal hygiene , it honestly could just be a way to control & abuse you and you might not smell at all (if they say you smell after a bath this is quite likely!) but do consider your routine. Are you & your son:
Washing with soap daily fully cleaning underarms, feet, groin area
Wearing clean clothes
Cleaning your teeth
for leakage, wearing incontinence pads & changing regularly throughout the day.

Do you have anyone else you could discreetly ask for an honest opinion? If your son smells as bad as your partner suggests, I'd be amazed if school haven't flagged as a safeguarding issue.

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 05/12/2024 13:09

You've been through so much, OP, you deserve happiness now.

Lavender14 · 05/12/2024 13:09

Have you any friends or anyone else you could ask if they've noticed any issues with your personal hygiene? Has your ds school raised any issues with you about his personal hygiene?

You say you both have issues around self care but can you elaborate a little on this to help us to understand what you mean by that? For example, how often do you shower or use deodorant or brush your teeth?

I wash my armpits and groin every single morning in the shower with warm water and soap and put deodorant on every morning. I wash my hair twice a week and I brush my teeth morning and night every day. As long as you are doing that, then your self care is fine.

The issues around incontinence I think would warrant speaking to your gp about to see if there's anything more that can be done to help resolve that. I'd wear an incontinence pad and change it every few hours or as you need to and bring some wet wipes out in your bag with you so you can give your bits a quick freshen up when you change your pad. I would wear fresh underwear and socks every day, tops and jumpers twice as long as they don't look or smell dirty and jeans for a week or two as long as I've not spilled on them. I change my pyjamas every 3/4 days.

I also would ask your son to have similar standards for his hygiene.

I would also leave your husband. He sounds abusive. Calling you a 'disgusting pig' is emotional abuse. And the reason why I'm suggesting that you ask someone else about your personal hygiene is that he could possibly be gaslighting you. Sometimes when we've grown up with abusive adults, our standards of what's acceptable can get a little skewed. Maybe your husband is better than your Step father, but that doesn't mean he's not still abusive. He also doesn't have a right to how you process your feelings or what you choose to share online.

Katemax82 · 05/12/2024 13:12

Your OH is abusing you horribly..you are not toxic they are! I'm sorry you are in this situation and it seems divorce is a good idea

Katemax82 · 05/12/2024 13:12

Your OH is abusing you horribly..you are not toxic they are! I'm sorry you are in this situation and it seems divorce is a good idea

housethatbuiltme · 05/12/2024 13:12

Chowtime · 05/12/2024 12:47

I think you need to

  1. Have a 5 minute daily shower
  2. Wear continence pants
  3. Ensure your DC has a daily 5 minute shower
  4. Dump your fucking horrible boyfriend.

Then, your life will be much improved.

So easy for non ND/MH issue people to say.

No body is the way they are from laziness or stupidness, we need to get away from the idea that disabled people should 'just' conform to the able lifestyle as if its just so 'easy' and why haven't they bothered to think of that.

For the record nobody need to shower daily, in fact with some medical issues it can worsen them.

I do agree with dumping the partner though.

maddening · 05/12/2024 13:14

Do you or can you shower daily?

Do you or can you change your clothes daily?

Do you or can you brush your teeth twice a day?

Can you wear incontinence protection?

Can you ensure the same for your child?
How old is your child?

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