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Husband thinks I owe him money for maternity leave?

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LemonadeShadeParade · 04/12/2024 13:38

I am so confused! So pleased advice me!

I took 10 months mat leave, and my work did not provide any enhanced mat pay because I had been there less than two years. So I've been living off SMP only which isn't very much! My husband and I discussed this would be the case before getting pregnant and agreed we could manage as we both had allocated baby savings and my husband has a fairly decent salary (though I am the higher earner of the two of us).

I tried my best to contribute but as the months went on and I ran out of savings I had to contribute less and less. Again, this was all discussed before we got pregnant.

I'm about to return to work.

My husband has now sprung on me, that he's been calculating how much I've been short every month, adding it all up and now thinks I owe him the total 🫤

E.g. (not the real numbers) If I usually paid him £800 a month towards bills etc and in March actually paid him £300, he put down that I owe him £500 for the month of March. If I paid him £600 in April, he thinks I owe him £200 for April. Etc. and he's totalled it all up for 10 months and said that's what I owe him for being on mat leave.

AIBU to be a bit ??? by this? Firstly it's not what we agreed but more importantly we're a married couple and this is OUR baby not MY baby. AIBU to think his role here was to support his family whereas mine was to keep the baby alive? I was too shell shocked to say anything before we were interrupted and didn't finish the conversation.

I'm so confused, am I wrong? I mean if he suddenly lost his job or got sick, I would support our family, is that not how families work? Doesn't the working parent support the other parent who's off work looking after the baby? I thought that's how this works?! ☹️

OP posts:
OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 04/12/2024 18:03

@LemonadeShadeParade

did you say that the 2 of you split the bills by a %, and you pay for the groceries on top of that ?!!!

if so, it's time to include the groceries in with the other bills/costs.

and when the times comes, the nursery fees too.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 04/12/2024 18:04

Here's what I'm hoping;

  • this is a wind up by OP
  • DH is winding OP up, not funny but maybe a misguided prank
  • someone is winding DH up and convinced him that this is the norm, a very cruel prank indeed
  • Dh is sleep deprived and exhausted and had a really irrational moment that he will immediately regret and apologise for.

If none of the above then honestly I don't know what to think. I have no words.

babyproblems · 04/12/2024 18:06

This is madness. I struggle to believe this is real tbh!!! I can’t think of a bigger red flag than this situation apart from violence/criminal acts.

TwinklySquid · 04/12/2024 18:06

This is one of those situations where I really would say consider the relationship. What if you got sick or god forbid your child? What if you had another child? Would he bill you for covering your bit?

Being in a relationship means you have each others back. Nit picking who owes what when you’ve just grown a human in you takes the p*ss. I wouldn’t be able to look at them in same way.

I would do as others have said and write your own payments .

  • Average childcare cost per hour : £5.00.
  • I assume you’ve taken over more cleaning as you’re at home: £10 p/h
  • Cooking too I bet? Average take out meal for one: £10 per dinner.
Nothanks17 · 04/12/2024 18:07

Wtaf!

Petergriffinschins · 04/12/2024 18:07

Fucking hell. I never understand this concept. If you are married, and especially if you have children, all money is family money. All in one pot. You are living as a family unit.

Mamasperspective · 04/12/2024 18:07

Look up childcare costs and calculate the average hourly rate 24/7 ... also look at how much a cleaner would cost, how much it would cost to have laundry done, costs for a cook etc etc and create your own spreadsheet!

I would be looking at a divorce lawyer if my other half dared do this to me! This baby is from both of you yet you have done all childcare while he's at work, no doubt getting up through the night too and he still wants you to contribute 100% of what you were before baby? Your husband is an AH

historyrepeatz · 04/12/2024 18:08

I'm in the camp of he owes you. If it was proportional before mat leave it should have been proportional after. That's without acknowledging what you have lost in potential future earnings and what you have been through in carrying, birthing and caring for the baby. You shouldn't have had to drain your savings to try to keep up your before payments. I think you should write it all down and go through it point by point with him then.

Also, if you are going back to work and on top of that doing more than 50/50 of the unpaid work for the home and family he should be making up for it somehow. Spell it out for him.

Madre123 · 04/12/2024 18:08

WTAF! 😡😡😡😡 really.....counter with your accounts for childcare, housework, shopping etc etc etc. Absolute joke....

Coldiron · 04/12/2024 18:09

Apparently surrogacy expenses are approx 10-15k so make sure you also bill him 50% of that for use of your uterus

sunights · 04/12/2024 18:09

@LemonadeShadeParade "We usually split the bills based on the % of our income"

If he wants to play it that way than either you were only meant to contribute the % that your SMP represents- or if he suddenly wants to split things evenly then he needs to pay back to you the additional % you used to contributed pre-baby.

Good on you for coming here to check - as perhaps he can also contribute to balance out all those extra childcare hours you are providing atm too!

MightyDandelion · 04/12/2024 18:09

AcrossthePond55 · 04/12/2024 16:51

@LemonadeShadeParade

If it hasn't been discussed yet, you better find out from him how he expects childcare to be paid for. So many men seem to think it's the wife's sole expense. Because, you know "it's enabling YOU to go back to work". No, asshole, it's enabling BOTH OF US to keep our jobs!

I think your basic strategy of "WTAF!", "Explain yourself!!", and then the full Nuclear are the way to go.

But just for shits and giggles, take your full wage for the period you'll be off work less your total stat mat pay. That's your 'wage loss' whilst you're off due to childbearing and childcare. Take that figure then divide by two. Since you 'lost' those wages due to a mutual decision to have a child together, then 1/2 of your lost wages should by rights be covered by him, because you know, it's 'half his child' that you lost those wages for to carry, birth, and care for before returning to work. If you're lucky that figure will equal or exceed what he thinks you 'owe' him. If it equals then tell him you're square. If it exceeds, give him a bill and tell him you'll pay him after he pays you. If it's less, then say nothing and tell him to get to fuck!

Jeez, this idiot is lucky he doesn't live here in the US. No such thing as statutory maternity pay (or its 6 wks max). If he was here, he'd be 'stuck' with the whole 'bill'!

Oooo this is brilliant.

adriftinadenofvipers · 04/12/2024 18:11

Fortheloveofgodwhy · 04/12/2024 15:15

why do seemingly so many of the mums of mumsnet, marry or/and breed with these utter cockwombles. You know there are decent men/partners out there, ones who respect and support their families. Where they recognise that a family is a unit, one may earn more and one less, one may work outside the home and one within, but regardless the family is a unit, and all income is shared with open transparent access by both adults?

Because they successfully hide their cockwombleness until the woman is in a vulnerable position!

Scottishskifun · 04/12/2024 18:14

If he says he's serious then simply state right so I can bill you for caring for the baby then.....so that's £15/hr 24 hours - sleeping time say 4hours to be generous. So on that reckoning for 10 months that's £90,000......minus what he thinks you owe him and then tell him you will accept £80,000 by bacs or cheque.......

That might make him realise how fucking unreasonable he is being!

Thatcastlethere · 04/12/2024 18:15

Every day it's a new low for men.
I think I've seen it all on mumsnet then one man just takes it further.

MOTU · 04/12/2024 18:17

this is very simple, get a quote for full time nursery fees for the period per month, give him an invoice for 50% of that, I suspect he now owes you money...

gardenflowergirl · 04/12/2024 18:17

That's awful! A marriage is supposed to be teamwork...with all my worldly I thee endow....he promised that or words to that effect didn't he?

What he's doing is not how marriage works. Send him a bill for childcare.

TitusMoan · 04/12/2024 18:17

Give me his mobile number and I’ll explain to him what a tosser he is. As a pp said, this is a new low.

Nightvax · 04/12/2024 18:18

Marking place for the update!

TheCookieCrumblesThisWay · 04/12/2024 18:22

LemonadeShadeParade · 04/12/2024 16:18

I will definitely update when the conversation comes up next!

I wouldn't wait for the conversation to come up again. I personally wouldn't be able to let something like this slide and my DH would hear - very clearly - what my opinion on that comment is.
I'm disgusted on your behalf.

Timetosortmyshitout · 04/12/2024 18:24

Interesting future you have ahead of you.

What an arse. 😔

vitahelp · 04/12/2024 18:24

Wow this is one of the craziest things I’ve read on here, awful. I’m sorry he’s done this to you, how disappointing and selfish of him.

BlackSwan · 04/12/2024 18:24

Tell him it's time he got a better paying job. You expected him to be earning more by now. Or get a second job. If there's a financial deficit, he's the one who needs to bridge the gap.

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 04/12/2024 18:27

Bill him for the reduction in wages you will now receive as a result of having a child - about 20% for the rest of your working life. Whilst you’re at it bill him upfront for the pension contributions you were unable to make during mat leave. You’re also owed about 8k for childcare I should imagine.
Once you’ve received that, advise him of upcoming divorce proceedings and bill him for exactly half of what you jointly own. I think he’s confused about the legal contract he’s entered into. What a tool.

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · 04/12/2024 18:28

The fact he thinks he’s done you a favour and lent you money🤮. Couldn’t shag him again - ick.

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