To think this attack on London Jewish schoolchildren should have been headline news

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I have been waiting for this story to go mainstream, and I’m shocked that it hasn’t.

So far, it seems only the Daily Mail has reported on it - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14142235/amp/Jewish-children-terrified-thugs-London-bus-rocks-Israel.html.

When are we going to start taking the threats against Jews in the UK seriously and actually do something about it?

I don't know the bus operator, Uno, it used to be Sullivan buses when my DC were at JFS, that ran the route on behalf of TFL. If you read to the bottom of the article, tfl gives a statement, so I assumed it was the same type of arrangement. But this is nit picking really, I just wanted to express that whatever bus it was, it wasn't a private coach, which some schools use. I think JFS used to have one to Bushey, I don't know if it does anymore, and parents paid for it. We didn't pay for Sullivan, the kids used their teen oyster cards.

That is a very good point. Because the majority of us are white and wear regular clothes, we hide in plain sight.

Racist attacks happen to school kids every day where I live. It's news but not headline news.

I haven't said that it definitely is or isn't.... I've said I'd be interested to see conclusion of police investigation.

There was a huge furore with lots of people saying police were anti-Semitic after videos circulated of police officers (in Edgware so same area to this incident) took down posters with pictures of Hamas hostages. This was also reported in news at that time.

It actually turned out later that the posters removed were only a pharmacy which was private property and were put up in "retaliation" to a social media post (which the pharmacy have claimed was not made by them but some kind of hacking I don't know the truth of that as never seen any reporting of an investigation onto that aspect). The pharmacy staff were being harassed and threatened with death threats made to them. So the police were visiting the pharmacy because of the threats and wider issue not randomly removing posters like was originally reported.

So after situations like that I don't think remaining open minded while a situation is investigated and when all the information is public starting appropriate conclusions is a bad tactic. It didn't mean I'm justifying anything by anyone.

Where on earth do you live? Every day? Every single day, children in your area are being racially attacked? By who? What's being done about it? It sounds horrific

Just to clarify my earlier post. When I said Jewish people are not the threat I meant that the far right are.
Anybody bullied, harassed, threatened or physically harmed because of their religion deserve our protection

I have family that teach at and attend this school. The school's guidelines have been to hide the uniform outside school because there have been literally COUNTLESS incidents of children being threatened and even spat on by adults. Is it reported on, no, and if it is the response is 'it's their own fault.'

The community is terrified and unfortunately because we are a small minority the feeling is we cannot do anything about it except hide or leave. Which is exactly the motivation to keep attacking us. In Hendon leaflets were put up saying Zionists leave Britain, written in Hebrew.

It's disgusting, Jewish schools now have security guards which is horrific! These kids should not be terrified to go to school

My DS told me several years ago he had seen police outside Jewish schools at pick up time because of previous incidents and attacks. I haven’t seen that reported either

This was an incident carried out by children from a different school. It needs to be dealt with directly by the school and a the police, within the school.
I suspect that as it is an incident perpetrated by children it won't be in the news due to their age and right to anonymity. Reporting it may cause a witchhunt and detract from any reparation work that needs to be done with the children who carried out the attack.

The incident last week of Jewish girls leaving school who were attacked with glass bottles by an adult, one of whom was stabbed in the face with broken glass, was also barely reported on

The level of antisemitism on MN is alarming! This is clearly a racist attack and yet people are trying to minimise it or justify it. Yet more evidence that "antizionism" is just a dog whistle for the antisemites.

I'm from the area and the Jewish schools are hidden and don't have signage. They have security, as do the synagogues and that was over 30 years ago

Its hard to avoid that conclusion.

It's a truly hideous incident and a disgusting thing to have happened.

Just as an add-on to the all the (very correct comments) that point out that British Jewish children have no responsibility for the horrors that Palestinian civilians are subjected to...I would extend that out and say that generally, many actual Israeli civilians are not to blame or responsible either. One thing that studying history did for me was show that there is a BIG distinction between the government/military and its civilians, which is why one of the reasons why deliberate attacks on civilians are war crimes under international law. There's an understanding that civilians have an innocence, or level of innocent, in the the whole situation, that the leadership doesn't.

It's totally acceptable to hate the Israeli government, but not acceptable to collectively hate Israeli civilians in general, and unfortunately I think that sometimes gets lost on some people.

‘happening to children who have nothing whatsoever to do with the situation in the Middle East.’

none of the children have anything to do with with anything going on in the ME, not 10 of thousands of dead Palestinian children either.
The sooner Israel brokers actual peace the better for everyone.

Whats that got to do with what we're discussing?

I agree with your last statement, but that doesn't take away from the fact that the people who perpetrate attacks like the subject of this thread are doing so unjustly and need to be held accountable for their own actions. IMO the Israeli government is horrific, but that doesn't give other people carte blanche to attack innocents. Anyone who deliberately attacks innocent people, those actions are all on them.

Isnt it low level terrorism?

Out of interest - why are there separate Jewish schools?

I know we historically have Catholic and Church of England Schools in the UK but we don't have schools for every religious following. I presume Jewish children also attend Church of England/regular state comprehensives, just as many Catholic children attend Church of England/state comp Schools?

I didn’t say it did. It’s awful that children are being taunted by other children like this, it’s also awful that children are being blown to pieces and starving to death in the conflict.

a poster was saying it wasn’t the children’s fault, well none of it is, Yet these children are being teased and others are being slaughtered. Israel needs to seriously broker peace now.

They do but more people are moving to Jewish schools simply due to a feeling of alienation and hostility or wanting to avoid the mainstream celebration of terror attacks against us

I had a quick Google...there are Muslim schools in the UK too...and hindu and sikh. Obviously vast majority of children of any faith go to secular schools I imagine.

The Jewish schools are likely another example of a faith school, for parents who would like their family's religion to be a part of their school life. Not all Jewish parents choose to send their children to Jewish schools (some Jewish people are atheist/agnostic anyhow) so you would indeed get some Jewish children attending secular comprehensives and the like.

Similar to Christian faith schools, a Jewish school would be a school where the religion of Judaism is promoted.

It's what certain other minorities (including many LQBTQ people and Muslims of European descent) call passing and it's a double-edged sword. It allows us to go about our lives mostly unimpeded by the sort of bigotry that harasses those who are more visibly different. But the price for passing is when people think they can be as antisemitic as they like because they don't realise we're Jewish. Or, and which is just as bad, they know we're Jewish and think that our whiteness will make us OK with whatever they want to spew about people with a darker skin or a different way of dressing. I swear my late MiL, may her memory be a blessing, put the fact that I was different, with family origins in Eastern Europe completely out of her mind 99% of the time and it wasn't a good thing.