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Hoping that Greg Wallace is forgiven, rather than cancelled

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Toodaloo1567 · 03/12/2024 18:00

Just a few concerns about this whole GW thing. Caveat: I do not condone behaviour that is illegal.

  1. It does kind of look like a whole bunch of privileged TV luvvies are clamouring to denounce someone with really quite humble roots. I grew up in London and am constantly paranoid about how I come across to my mainly middle class colleagues. The thing is, middle class and privileged people operate by a set of unwritten rules. It’s like a full time job in itself trying to emulate their way of interacting, lest you be called out for not being ‘nice’ enough or doing something odd to them, like forgetting to start an email with ‘Hope you are well?’. Only, they won’t let you know to your face that you’ve accidentally been too sharp or direct, or maybe that your joke wasn’t woke enough - no, that stuff just goes straight to HR.
  2. The equality act 2010 makes it the employer’s responsibility to prevent sexual harassment in the workplace. Why wasn’t all this lewd stuff dealt with? GW said that no one had made a formal complaint. Again, it makes me wonder whether the middle class luvvies just didn’t want to call things out at the time because it’s ‘beneath’ them to even consider doing something about it.
  3. Even though he’s apologised, the public doesn’t think that’s good enough. It’s like only perfect people get to keep their careers. Woe betide you if you said something crass on twitter 10 years ago, or got caught speeding or something.

Of course, lots of you would want to shout me down over this, but you know what? We’re all mums here and many of us have sons. Boys and young men do and say crass things. GW hasn’t raped or systematically abused anyone. It doesn’t make what’s happened right, but I also don’t think it’s right that swarms of pitch-fork waving strangers get to play judge, jury and executioner. I’m a big fan of forgiveness. Am I the only one?

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crumblingschools · 03/12/2024 20:14

For those saying it isn't that bad, are you bringing up your boys to think that they can behave like this, and it is the females fault if they don't like it?

Is this why the majority of girls in schools have suffered some form of sexual harassment?

peachesarenom · 03/12/2024 20:16

MurdoMunro · 03/12/2024 20:13

Oh me too. In fact I went ahead and did it already.

How many of us to make it a real cancellation though, so he can bellow about it in his newspaper columns, TV programmes, radio interviews? I mean it’s not an ACTUAL cancellation until you can tell a million people over at least 3 different mediums that you’ve been silenced is it?

Exactly! I sometimes wonder if he gets away with it ALL due to being 'middle class'!

I can imagine the apologists already 'It's just Jeremy, he doesn't realise he's doing it! Just clueless poor man baby!'

We can live in hope!

PickledPony · 03/12/2024 20:19

Turned on BBC1 prime time tonight only to see Greg Wallace plastered all over the TV. I am sickened, cancel the show or edit him out. It would be fairly simple to edit him out and insert a voiceover when required. It says a lot about the BBC (that they don’t give a shit about sexual harassment of women).

Eurosidney · 03/12/2024 20:19

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thepariscrimefiles · 03/12/2024 20:19

ForGreyKoala · 03/12/2024 20:02

All I can say is thank goodness I grew up in a time before all this "cancelled" nonsense. I wonder how many generations it's going to take before someone sees this idiocy for what it is.

What a great time that was! Imagine if Jimmy Saville had been cancelled! It doesn't bear thinking about.

RedToothBrush · 03/12/2024 20:20

crumblingschools · 03/12/2024 20:14

For those saying it isn't that bad, are you bringing up your boys to think that they can behave like this, and it is the females fault if they don't like it?

Is this why the majority of girls in schools have suffered some form of sexual harassment?

Must be coming from somewhere.

FoxesSox · 03/12/2024 20:20

Try being sexually harassed by a man in a position of great power over you. Ridiculous and disgusting post. “He hasn’t raped anyone” is that the bar we are setting for what you need to be sacked for these days?!?, and terrifying woman with a sock over your cock is alright then?

GetMyCloak · 03/12/2024 20:21

He’s a whiny, talentless misogynist whose role model appears to be Benny Hill.

Let him go. Plenty more fish in the sea that aren’t going to be revolting pervs who enjoy making women uncomfortable for the bants 🤮

RedToothBrush · 03/12/2024 20:21

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And once again ignoring the other half of the list...

... Not going to comment on those huh?

Nope. You won't.

MurdoMunro · 03/12/2024 20:22

PickledPony · 03/12/2024 20:19

Turned on BBC1 prime time tonight only to see Greg Wallace plastered all over the TV. I am sickened, cancel the show or edit him out. It would be fairly simple to edit him out and insert a voiceover when required. It says a lot about the BBC (that they don’t give a shit about sexual harassment of women).

Is that guy who used to do the voiceover for Gerry Adam’s still around? I’d pay premium to watch Masterchef with Wallace’s face blurred out and him doing the voiceover.

Ihopeyouhavent · 03/12/2024 20:22

Toodaloo1567 · 03/12/2024 18:00

Just a few concerns about this whole GW thing. Caveat: I do not condone behaviour that is illegal.

  1. It does kind of look like a whole bunch of privileged TV luvvies are clamouring to denounce someone with really quite humble roots. I grew up in London and am constantly paranoid about how I come across to my mainly middle class colleagues. The thing is, middle class and privileged people operate by a set of unwritten rules. It’s like a full time job in itself trying to emulate their way of interacting, lest you be called out for not being ‘nice’ enough or doing something odd to them, like forgetting to start an email with ‘Hope you are well?’. Only, they won’t let you know to your face that you’ve accidentally been too sharp or direct, or maybe that your joke wasn’t woke enough - no, that stuff just goes straight to HR.
  2. The equality act 2010 makes it the employer’s responsibility to prevent sexual harassment in the workplace. Why wasn’t all this lewd stuff dealt with? GW said that no one had made a formal complaint. Again, it makes me wonder whether the middle class luvvies just didn’t want to call things out at the time because it’s ‘beneath’ them to even consider doing something about it.
  3. Even though he’s apologised, the public doesn’t think that’s good enough. It’s like only perfect people get to keep their careers. Woe betide you if you said something crass on twitter 10 years ago, or got caught speeding or something.

Of course, lots of you would want to shout me down over this, but you know what? We’re all mums here and many of us have sons. Boys and young men do and say crass things. GW hasn’t raped or systematically abused anyone. It doesn’t make what’s happened right, but I also don’t think it’s right that swarms of pitch-fork waving strangers get to play judge, jury and executioner. I’m a big fan of forgiveness. Am I the only one?

Thank you for saying it, Im prob late to this thread.

Yeh, some of of his "jokes" "quips" etc were close to the mark, but why didnt these fucking grown up women tell him to FUCK OFF at the time !f i dont find it funny, i dont like it, urghhh you creepy etc say it. So sad and pathetic that they didnt and blame men for it

if someone said they could munch my tart, i would have laughed and given him a slap.

Stand up for yourself as a WOMAN, tell them to fuck off, etc. Dont be a snowflake, "too shy" makes me sick.

its 2024 FUCKING SAY IT, or even 2002 say it.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 03/12/2024 20:23

Hi Gregg.

DetestTheClockChange · 03/12/2024 20:24

And of course the BBC have a duty of care. And they have failed in that...again.

NetZeroZealot · 03/12/2024 20:24

In this context he’s been cancelled quite literally because the BBC is pulling the Celebrity Masterchef Christmas Specials from the schedule.

MittensForKittens123 · 03/12/2024 20:25

Hahah - hello Greg Wallace PR team 😂

NetZeroZealot · 03/12/2024 20:25

Ihopeyouhavent · 03/12/2024 20:22

Thank you for saying it, Im prob late to this thread.

Yeh, some of of his "jokes" "quips" etc were close to the mark, but why didnt these fucking grown up women tell him to FUCK OFF at the time !f i dont find it funny, i dont like it, urghhh you creepy etc say it. So sad and pathetic that they didnt and blame men for it

if someone said they could munch my tart, i would have laughed and given him a slap.

Stand up for yourself as a WOMAN, tell them to fuck off, etc. Dont be a snowflake, "too shy" makes me sick.

its 2024 FUCKING SAY IT, or even 2002 say it.

This. Again. Read the thread. Read the room.

PiggyPigalle · 03/12/2024 20:26

Hope he's gone for good, not for the accusations particularly but he's my reason not to watch MC. Shouting 5 Minutes, you've got 5 Minutes!
Now he's accused of touching someone's backside and getting his groin too close.

thepariscrimefiles · 03/12/2024 20:26

Ihopeyouhavent · 03/12/2024 20:22

Thank you for saying it, Im prob late to this thread.

Yeh, some of of his "jokes" "quips" etc were close to the mark, but why didnt these fucking grown up women tell him to FUCK OFF at the time !f i dont find it funny, i dont like it, urghhh you creepy etc say it. So sad and pathetic that they didnt and blame men for it

if someone said they could munch my tart, i would have laughed and given him a slap.

Stand up for yourself as a WOMAN, tell them to fuck off, etc. Dont be a snowflake, "too shy" makes me sick.

its 2024 FUCKING SAY IT, or even 2002 say it.

So a junior member of staff could just tell him to fuck off, with no consequences for her job? It's not about being shy. It's about the power imbalance. You're deluded.

Soxersandbocks · 03/12/2024 20:28

I actually agree with you OP

You can't say anything these days without getting 'cancelled'

Everyone jumping on the bandwagon as usual 🙄

Eurosidney · 03/12/2024 20:28

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Ihopeyouhavent · 03/12/2024 20:22

Thank you for saying it, Im prob late to this thread.

Yeh, some of of his "jokes" "quips" etc were close to the mark, but why didnt these fucking grown up women tell him to FUCK OFF at the time !f i dont find it funny, i dont like it, urghhh you creepy etc say it. So sad and pathetic that they didnt and blame men for it

if someone said they could munch my tart, i would have laughed and given him a slap.

Stand up for yourself as a WOMAN, tell them to fuck off, etc. Dont be a snowflake, "too shy" makes me sick.

its 2024 FUCKING SAY IT, or even 2002 say it.

Because he did it primarily to women who could lose their career. Many of the complaints are from women standing up for the (usually young) freelance runners, make up artists and other staff at the beginning of their careers. The power imbalance is huge.

MurdoMunro · 03/12/2024 20:29

Soxersandbocks · 03/12/2024 20:28

I actually agree with you OP

You can't say anything these days without getting 'cancelled'

Everyone jumping on the bandwagon as usual 🙄

‘You cant say anything these days’ Bloody hell 😆

HolyPeaches · 03/12/2024 20:29

@Toodaloo1567 GW hasn’t raped or systematically abused anyone.

Hahahahahahahah. You don’t know that.

Stick up for a slimy, sexist, misogynist all you like. But don’t try and shame these “middle class luvvies” for rightly speaking out. Fucking gross behaviour.

GetMyCloak · 03/12/2024 20:30

Ihopeyouhavent · 03/12/2024 20:22

Thank you for saying it, Im prob late to this thread.

Yeh, some of of his "jokes" "quips" etc were close to the mark, but why didnt these fucking grown up women tell him to FUCK OFF at the time !f i dont find it funny, i dont like it, urghhh you creepy etc say it. So sad and pathetic that they didnt and blame men for it

if someone said they could munch my tart, i would have laughed and given him a slap.

Stand up for yourself as a WOMAN, tell them to fuck off, etc. Dont be a snowflake, "too shy" makes me sick.

its 2024 FUCKING SAY IT, or even 2002 say it.

Do you not understand the institutionalised misogyny that means that many women cannot speak up effectively in cases like this?

So many cases reported and yet ignored.

Men in positions of power get away with this behaviour routinely.

Just look at SM comments about Greg’s twattiness (and yes I know there should be an extra G at the end of that but I like to think that he may read this and the deliberate lack of g will piss him off), they’re mostly turning it on “Karens” - middle aged women who dare to want to be treated with a bit of respect and not have to put up with bawdy humour that should be relegated to the 70s.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 03/12/2024 20:30

Livelovebehappy · 03/12/2024 19:55

Agree. That’s the thing which is absolutely inappropriate….if he did it. There doesn’t seem to be any substance or elaboration around the incident, and I can’t imagine it happening.

I’m sorry, @Livelovebehappy - are you really saying you don’t think any of the other things he is alleged to have done, are inappropriate? If so, I am gobsmacked.

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