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Children to sit at the dining table

123 replies

newmumabouttown · 30/11/2024 12:05

I am dreading family meals during the festive season…in laws family have their Holstein play under the table, bring noisy toys and generally just run around. They always book private rooms in restaurants for this reason, but AIBU to want the children sat round the table? They’re raging from 6 to 11 years old.
I have a one year old who will sit at the table before / during / after meal, with occasional walks around if he gets itchy feet. I hate that he’s watching this behaviour.

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Powderblue1 · 01/12/2024 17:59

I think it's great that they've planned a meal that suits adults and the kids. My kids could sit through a meal if we needed them to, but they would be bored and itching to move. I think I it's great they've set it so it suits the adults and kids. As long as they're not disruptive to other diners which sounds the case in the private room. We're out for dinner Xmas day and have booked a restaurant with soft play and already got my Xmas colouring books and pens ready to keep the kids entertained.

InternationalVelveteen · 01/12/2024 18:03

I think Holstein is now my favourite MN autocorrect. It used to be when someone posted "muppets" instead of "nippers." 😅

6-year-olds should be capable of sitting at the table, assuming no additional needs, and it should go without saying for an 11-year-old.

Happyher · 01/12/2024 18:07

They should sit round the table while you are eating but maybe let them play between main and dessert courses so they don’t get bored and fidgety

Gowlett · 01/12/2024 18:09

My child doesn’t sit, ever. He’s a busy person!
But, I’m hoping by age six plus, he will stay still.

namechangeGOT · 01/12/2024 18:15

Sitting at the table, without gadgets, engaging with people, eating properly and never, ever getting up to piss about has probably been the only 'parenting rule' that I made and stuck to from my son being tiny. I cannot abide kids legging it round, watching tablets/phones and not learning to interact over a meal with others. Besides disabilities of any kind there is no reason why a kid can't sit still properly at a dining table. However, having said that, you can't tell someone else how to parent but you can choose not to suffer this and not go.

JohnTheRevelator · 01/12/2024 18:20

Their Holstein plays under the table? Isn't that a cow? 🤔

Glasgowgal200 · 01/12/2024 18:27

Could op please tell us what the typo for holstein is. It's driving me bananas!!!!!!

Single50something · 01/12/2024 18:30

Faircastle · 30/11/2024 12:48

YANBU.
Their Holstein shouldn't be indoors, let alone under the table. This is one of those times when you could legitimately ask "Were you born in a barn?"

🤣

InternationalVelveteen · 01/12/2024 18:31

Glasgowgal200 · 01/12/2024 18:27

Could op please tell us what the typo for holstein is. It's driving me bananas!!!!!!

I assume it's autocorrect for children? Maybe the OP was typing quickly and wrote hldren or something else starting with h and the phone corrected it to Holstein.

LindorDoubleChoc · 01/12/2024 18:53

Glasgowgal200 · 01/12/2024 18:27

Could op please tell us what the typo for holstein is. It's driving me bananas!!!!!!

Can you not have a good guess? Come on!! It's a thread about CHILDREN not sitting at the dining table (clue there for you as you clearly need it).

Nantescalling · 01/12/2024 19:29

ComtesseDeSpair · 30/11/2024 16:17

I’d have a problem with them being under the table because it’s fucking irritating, but why not suggest they let the children eat somewhere else / excuse themselves once they’re done eating to go and play, and let the adults enjoy dinner and conversation, rather than try to insist they sit at the table? It’s not as though children really add anything positive to the ambience of a sit down meal at the best of times, let alone when they’re bored and fed up.

Edited

If your well brought up kids see another kid acting out but not being called to task, it could be a pretty bad example for them to see. If the parents feel they can't have their uncouth child in oublic then they really know they have a problem. No way the kind could be blamed, he's only doing what the parents allow.

Askingforafriendtoday · 01/12/2024 19:39

CanadianJohn · 30/11/2024 16:19

I was wondering too. Some suggestions:
holdest for oldest
hoffspring for offspring
hoddlers for toddlers

This could be a new game! 😀

That's a good game! I like the other typo/autocorrect... raging for ranging... seems apt

Zebrashavestripes · 01/12/2024 19:41

Faircastle · 30/11/2024 12:48

YANBU.
Their Holstein shouldn't be indoors, let alone under the table. This is one of those times when you could legitimately ask "Were you born in a barn?"

😂

Nantescalling · 01/12/2024 19:41

Spirallingdownwards · 30/11/2024 17:28

You won't have to because you are setting expectations about behaviour and table manners early. If you do this at the start and stick to these boundaries it isn't an issue even if the kids are otherwise live wires!

My 4 were brought up not to leave te table without asking permission which is quite different from them deciding for themselves and hopping off. Mine were groomed in good table manners and let's face it, manners are for the other people at the table. Don't speak with your mouth full and don't fill your mouth so full that you can't chew politely. My 4 are in their 40s now and I had to laugh the other day - the eldest 43 told the youngest 39 to swallow before telling his tale.Back in the 80s, children were taught to be very polite to grandparents on pain of lesser Xmas presents !

kiraric · 01/12/2024 19:46

uptheculdesac · 01/12/2024 17:53

At 11 I would be concerned there was some sort of developmental delay if they couldn't sit for a meal. Even 6 tbh.

This is coming from someone with 3dc with ADHD FFS

A long meal would be a stretch but I would expect them to play quietly, read, draw or maybe sit in the corner playing a board game.

I wouldn't ever expect dc of that age under the table or running around during the meal unless the meal was 5 hours long and it was at home and even then not under the table.

I would

I don't think we actually really disagree in practice

Mine would be fine with some toys/books/games but they wouldn't sit in their seats quietly for 4-5 hours is what I mean. They can do that for 1-2 hours, but after that they would move around and need something to occupy them

aliceinawonderland · 01/12/2024 23:53

Glasgowgal200 · 01/12/2024 18:27

Could op please tell us what the typo for holstein is. It's driving me bananas!!!!!!

I assumed it was "offspring"

BoldAmberDuck · 02/12/2024 08:14

AllPlayedOut · 30/11/2024 12:07

in laws family have their Holstein play under the table, bring noisy toys and generally just run around.

YANBU. I wouldn’t be happy if there was a cow playing under my table either.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

BoldAmberDuck · 02/12/2024 08:15

RosesAndHellebores · 30/11/2024 16:49

It's 100% simple. "Now the baby is 1, we will be making our own Christmases. I hope you are about on Boxing Day so we can pop in for a Baileys/Coffee/Mince Pie. We'll bring the Fresian."

SIL1 and I kept our DC on different moorings. Fortunately she lived in the Antipodes and I could avoid.

The Friesan 😂😂

bluebeck · 02/12/2024 08:20

I agree.

The Friesans need to have separate Christmases to the Holsteins.

Nanny0gg · 03/12/2024 09:39

newmumabouttown · 30/11/2024 21:19

Just an update on how it went … there was no cow present for the meal sadly, the assumptions that there were from my original rogue phone autocorrect made me chuckle.
What was under the table was an eleven year old, its carnage…
Other context requested - it was a nice restaurant, private area but on view and doors open, not much alcohol was served, and no X rated discussions!!

That child is about to go to secondary school (if not already there!)

Is there SEN involved?

If not wtf were their parents doing?

Nanny0gg · 03/12/2024 09:42

Powderblue1 · 01/12/2024 17:59

I think it's great that they've planned a meal that suits adults and the kids. My kids could sit through a meal if we needed them to, but they would be bored and itching to move. I think I it's great they've set it so it suits the adults and kids. As long as they're not disruptive to other diners which sounds the case in the private room. We're out for dinner Xmas day and have booked a restaurant with soft play and already got my Xmas colouring books and pens ready to keep the kids entertained.

I would find children playing under the table (especially at 6 and 11) disruptive. Private room or not

showersandflowers · 03/12/2024 09:43

It's very different getting a 1 year old to sit for a long period of time compared to kids who can run/talk and play together... mine is almost 3 and I could get her to sit and eat the meal but sitting g any longer than that and her active little mind and body are going to need something more. Good thinking of your family to get a private room though, very considerate to be fair.

I don't think you're being unreasonable about your child or about dreading it but also your 1 year old won't remember this, so you'll be fine.

newmumabouttown · 03/12/2024 10:52

Nanny0gg · 03/12/2024 09:39

That child is about to go to secondary school (if not already there!)

Is there SEN involved?

If not wtf were their parents doing?

They’re in secondary school and no neurological issues. Bizarrely the family think they’re an angel … it’s just madness. He was literally screaming, lunging at other children’s legs on the floor then playing video games under a table. No SEN, just no boundaries.

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