Assisted Dying

[Nordione1]

I dont know what section to put this in. Im more upset about the vote for it than I thought I'd be. I feel like we have crossed a rubicon somehow.

no it hasn't read my response to your other post

Look up your own post. You posted "sore"

Yes, there have been polls and surveys done over the years and the majority of people are in favour of it

Why are these replies so “quoted”. It’s a really odd vibe.

Can you signpost me to them please.

me too, twice entirely (only me) and once partially it doesn't terrify me.

I have no idea what you mean by that

Life throws us different experiences.

yup

This is very similar to abortions, you don’t have to get one / you don’t have to request assistance with dying. It’s not being forced upon you. But taking the option away from people who want it isn’t the greatest stand point.

Im pro assisted death with the correct safe guards in place. As someone with MND in the family and watching family members go from amazing human beings to suffocating to death as their lungs are one of the last muscles to stop working (while still being completely mentally aware) is horrible. If I get MND I will taking my life into my own hands one way or another.

I'm also quite concerned that many replies are framing this as a simple 'agonising death' vs 'peacefully slipping away'.

Assisted suicide is by no means a guaranteed peaceful end. There have been instances where people died terrified and in agony despite the promises.

neither do I know what they mean by that

But the number of disabled people who are very worried that they may be put in a position where they have no choice is a huge concern. This should be a primary concern and not dismissed as just a safeguard. Who can we trust?

@CandyMaker

how so?

OK, now I really understand what you are!

I'm very pleased it passed the first vote. This is a very positive step, but the safeguards in the proposed legislation must be carefully examined and tested.

I am with you 100%-I so pleased it's gone through.

which is?

The problem is that vulnerable people will die due to coercion or feeling a burden. Even if it's only a few each year it's too many.

Our vulnerable relative was persuaded to change his will by a callous carer. Thankfully this law wasn't in place or it could have been worse.

If someone isn’t mentally able to make the choice then there is no conversation they can’t give consent?

How can someone who is mentally sound be forced multiple times over many months and be signed off by more than two health professionals have this happen? Can you give some examples of the worries? I would like to understand the concerns

@TheMiceOnTheMouseOrgan

how so? The bill is pretty clear as to what it does and doesn’t permit

Agree 100%

I’m in favour of assisted dying in principle but would need to be sure there are appropriate safeguards, it also must not be at the expense of good quality palliative care

I feel,that we are getting into a Dr Who moment.

Thank you!! Mice, please stop with the misinformation.