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To die on this pathetic hill? Neighbour related.

148 replies

tuesfsytuesfay · 29/11/2024 13:39

Semi detached. Neighbours are dicks. They are the type to cut their tree and throw it over my side of the fence, specially tell their work men to park over my drive. They’ve done so much more but it’s generally small petty things like that but it builds up.

Our front doors are on the side of the house and we have bay windows facing the front onto the street with a gap in between. This gap is small and definitely where the boundary line is. They have now started using this area to store their bin - so that it’s pressed up against my window.

I’m just so fed up of it that I’ve started googling fences. I can’t go talk to them because there is no reasoning with them.

To die on this pathetic hill? Neighbour related.
OP posts:
Wilfrida1 · 11/12/2024 15:42

We need a photo of said fence. And well done!

FloofPaws · 11/12/2024 15:48

Brilliant news! Let us know their faces when they realise what's happened ... maybe you should get a flashing reindeer or Santa to look over your fence at them through their window 🤪

NagathaCrispy · 11/12/2024 15:56

So, their bin is effectively 50% on your property? I also assume that putting up a fence in the gap, as everyone else has suggested, would make the space too narrow to accommodate a wheelie bin. The answer here is clear, and definitely not a pathetic hill to die on IMO.

hopeishere · 11/12/2024 17:11

Agree we need a photo!

tuesfsytuesfay · 11/12/2024 17:13

They are back as I’ve seen their car.

I recently moved my furniture around and I was lying down on the sofa on the laptop which is now right in front of the window (don’t judge me 😂 I do work at my desk 99% of the time) and she walked by with the dog - stopped and was staring into the window or maybe admiring the fence from my side (the window from the pavement is a car length away) obviously didn’t realise I was there due to the sofa move, I looked at her and she quickly turned her head and trotted off. .

Honestly that fence is for privacy (and so I don’t have their disgusting bin at my window) and now I’ve got them coming to the front to stare at me 😂. Doubt they’ll be anymore updates though as the fence is on my boundary so they can’t remove it - and if they want to put up a bigger fence then I’d welcome it.

I ensured the ugly side of the fence was facing them too.

OP posts:
tuesfsytuesfay · 11/12/2024 17:15

I’m proud of my 98% pass rate on AIBU 😂.

Are the 2% my neighbours?

OP posts:
TheThreeCheesesOfTheApocalypse44 · 11/12/2024 18:16

Yanbu !

One of my neighbours constantly left their bin outside my house, one day I'd had enough so I wheeled it a few streets away and left it there. Wish I could build a bloody fence 😬🙄

user1471538283 · 11/12/2024 18:31

Put a big fence up! And mess about with their bins in the meantime.

One of my awful neighbors stole my recycling bin in a bid for attention. I ignored it and just took it back when it was emptied but some people get off on winding others up. He also rather strangely took to wearing black yoga pants and tank tops like me. It was not a good look ...

BasilParsley · 11/12/2024 18:59

Put some of that one-way reflective tape on your bay windows so you can see out but they can't see in 😉

WiddlinDiddlin · 11/12/2024 18:59

2pence · 01/12/2024 11:39

With the tree cuttings, they legally have to give the parts that overhang your garden to you, even if the trunk's on their side. It's some old law that's still in force about your right to the firewood and also stands for any fruit growing your side too. My mother in law's neighbours used to take all the plums off their side of her tree and rather cheekily reach through and try to grab the ones in arms reach on her side too, greedy sods!

That is the most bizarre interpretation of that particular bit of law I have ever read.

If someones tree/shrub is overhanging your garden, you are welcome to cut it back, however you must offer the cuttings back. You must not dump the cuttings over the fence however, that is not OK, thats dumping waste on someones property.

If your tree over hangs someone elses fence you are under no obligation to give them the bits that are on their side, you do have a responsibility to ensure your tree is not damaging their property though (ie pushing a fence over).

If your tree over hangs someone elses property they must ask permission to take the fruit either off the branches or off the ground (they won't of course, but they should).

If your tree overhangs someone elses property and it drops toxic fruits/seeds/leaves etc, you could be liable if that causes a problem.

Stormyweatheroutthere · 11/12/2024 19:30

Buy some of those bin numbers.. When they put the bins out stick random numbers on it. Bin men might take it to the correct house...

GoingRoundInOvals · 11/12/2024 20:55

BasilParsley · 11/12/2024 18:59

Put some of that one-way reflective tape on your bay windows so you can see out but they can't see in 😉

This!! Genius sfuff

godmum56 · 12/12/2024 18:05

2110l · 01/12/2024 15:51

OP will need to check her deeds. We aren’t allowed front fences here - so my front “garden” just went directly into neighbour’s front garden with no boundary or division of any sort. We also have to have the fronts open - bushes are alright but not gates.

its often worth looking at the detail of that kind of restrictive covenant. Sometimes they are time limited. Our house had a no front fences requirement, except for the low ones put up by the builder, but that expired after 7 years. Sometimes such covenants are only enforceable by the original party which is usually the developer. they can vest this into another entitiy, maybe a management company but if they don't and they don't care about enforcement, then you can ignore it. The company who built our house failed many years ago. It just went into liquidation with no successor which effectively ends the covenant. One of the covenants prohibits the keeping of pigs, pigeons or poultry! Its a rural area. I really hope no one tries it though!!

godmum56 · 12/12/2024 18:06

GoingRoundInOvals · 11/12/2024 20:55

This!! Genius sfuff

but won't you still see the bin?

Gettingbysomehow · 12/12/2024 18:10

Glue the bin shut and then glue an elf on the shelf on top.

GillianCarole · 12/12/2024 18:11

I can empathise with you - relations with my neighbours got so bad due to their bad parking, throwing rubbish in my garden, etc that I've not spoken to them for seven years. He has threatened to hit my gardener (although he actually wants to hit me) & I told him to do the proverbial. I'm sure he thought I was going to flap my hands in fright - he's an uneducated, stoned idiot.

barbarahunter · 12/12/2024 18:31

Sometimes I think about 'what a piece of work is a man, How noble in reason, how infinite in faculty, In form and moving how express and admirable, In action how like an Angel, In apprehension how like a god.'

And then I remember my neighbour, a shuffling, vile, drug - addled, uneducated, loud, uncouth, cruel object, devoid of compassion and empathy. Just saying.

Mikki77 · 12/12/2024 21:07

Your neighbours are disgusting.
I suggest their bins go missing one night.

K0OLA1D · 12/12/2024 21:10

So happy you've put a fence up. I take it the bin has been shoved up their side of it.

godmum56 · 12/12/2024 22:05

WiddlinDiddlin · 11/12/2024 18:59

That is the most bizarre interpretation of that particular bit of law I have ever read.

If someones tree/shrub is overhanging your garden, you are welcome to cut it back, however you must offer the cuttings back. You must not dump the cuttings over the fence however, that is not OK, thats dumping waste on someones property.

If your tree over hangs someone elses fence you are under no obligation to give them the bits that are on their side, you do have a responsibility to ensure your tree is not damaging their property though (ie pushing a fence over).

If your tree over hangs someone elses property they must ask permission to take the fruit either off the branches or off the ground (they won't of course, but they should).

If your tree overhangs someone elses property and it drops toxic fruits/seeds/leaves etc, you could be liable if that causes a problem.

doncha just love MN lawyers?

bluebeck · 13/12/2024 07:32

godmum56 · 12/12/2024 18:05

its often worth looking at the detail of that kind of restrictive covenant. Sometimes they are time limited. Our house had a no front fences requirement, except for the low ones put up by the builder, but that expired after 7 years. Sometimes such covenants are only enforceable by the original party which is usually the developer. they can vest this into another entitiy, maybe a management company but if they don't and they don't care about enforcement, then you can ignore it. The company who built our house failed many years ago. It just went into liquidation with no successor which effectively ends the covenant. One of the covenants prohibits the keeping of pigs, pigeons or poultry! Its a rural area. I really hope no one tries it though!!

Just to add, in case it helps other readers, if the company doesn’t fold, you can just ask the Company Directors of the new management company.

I am Director of such a company (it’s like a glorified residents association) and have given neighbours permission to grow hedges to separate their front gardens and even a brick wall.

I don’t do it willy nilly, I do consider carefully, but usually such changes aren’t going to make the development look bad.

lizzyBennet08 · 13/12/2024 10:08

Fabulous update op. It was absolutely time to put down a marker for their shitty behaviour!

Catapaulting · 13/12/2024 10:13

Brilliant! Very funny outcome. Hope you can enjoy your window in peace from now on

WindyRedAlert · 13/12/2024 10:22

WeAllHaveWings · 29/11/2024 14:49

Nip it in the bud. Speak to them and tell them to move it off your land. If they won't you move it every time in front of their window, if it continues put up a barrier, if they remove the barrier concrete one in.

You need to get it fixed now as in the summer you'll be having a fly problem as it is too near your window.

This . You tell them it's a health hazard and to move it .

pollymere · 13/12/2024 13:00

I have a boundary line brick wall there. It's only three/four bricks high. Whoever built our houses clearly knew about annoying neighbours! You could buy one of those path trimming edge type things made of wood and use it to edge your garden. It would be enough to stop the bin even if it's only about twenty cm high.