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To dread Christmas?

130 replies

Runki · 29/11/2024 08:58

Does anyone else dread Christmas? The expense, the being completely skint for the whole of January and sometimes beyond, the stress, the pressure, the awkwardness of possibly having to spend time with relatives you might not particularly like and don't see all year, but you HAVE to because it's Christmas. That Simply Having a Wonderful Christmas Time song on repeat in shops. All the adverts you see denoting the perfect family Christmas and it's not like that for everyone. And then you sit there at the end of Christmas Day and realise you've spent most of it cooking and washing up. Is it just me or am I just Ebenezer Scrooge?! 😂

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2023Tobeornottobe · 29/11/2024 10:02

I don't dread Christmas anymore because I have made it what I want it to be. I lost my Dad on December the 3rd a few years ago. So it is just my brother and I left and I'm happily single. My brother is going through a messy split with his fiancé, and my new born nephew is in the middle of it so I probably wouldn't see anyone on Christmas day.
Last year I flew to Tenerife for Christmas on my own, I had the best time - didn't feel like Christmas at all - no pressure/stress etc. Just a winter sun holiday. I'm doing the same this year to Gran Canaria. On Christmas day I have a sailing trip booked looking for dolphins and whales 😊
You can make it a 'you day' if you want to. Ignore all the adverts and societal pressure.

SerafinasGoose · 29/11/2024 10:09

I'm sorry about the loss of your husband and your in-laws' attitude to you, OP.

I agree that there is something about Christmas of all holidays that seems to amplify loss. And there's nothing like Christmas (and weddings) for sticklers to apparent 'tradition', for which I read locked into expected ways of doing things. Maybe it's the old rebels die hard attitude in me, but the very word 'tradition' makes me want to stick my fingers in my ears and run off in the opposite direction shouting 'la, la, la!'

I agree with the PP that the music is particularly dreadful! Same old dross churned out on repeat year after year after year - a bit like the Christmas baubles we've had since our childhood but nowhere near as appealing. That Paul McCartney number makes me murderous.

We do low-key. Get togethers are with friends in mid-December and again on HY Eve - for no other reason that we enjoy each other's company and like being together. Unlike with relatives we don't happen to get on with, friendships are entirely voluntary. This makes them amongst the best relationships we'll have in life, and we've now fallen into a pattern where December is the month we celebrate that. I cherish it.

I have lots of fairy lights and two very laden trees (I don't care if two are naff). And we do the turkey. But once the demands of presents (for DC) and cooking are off, it's a holiday that makes few demands on us.

However, the months with short days and long nights will never be my most loved time of year. Easter will always be the favourite holiday: it's spring, everything's bursting into life again, the daylight hours are extending, and it carries none of the conventional obligations associated with Christmas.

This too shall pass, OP. I know where you're coming from: I really do.

SerafinasGoose · 29/11/2024 10:10

On Christmas day I have a sailing trip booked looking for dolphins and whales.

@2023Tobeornottobe - I can't think of anything I'd rather do on ANY day of the year. Lucky you! Have a wonderful trip and I hope you see lots of wonderful sea creatures.

Dearg · 29/11/2024 10:10

@2023Tobeornottobe Thank you for that great idea!

Since my own parents died, Christmas has lost some of its lustre, and years of having to work round MIL and her self-interests wore me down. I have declined to host the remaining in-laws this year , and DH won’t do it without me to cook. It will be a quieter day here than usual, but I love your idea for future Christmases.

Fire86 · 29/11/2024 10:17

Absolutely not just you. Of course there are people who love everything about Xmas, but you’re certainly not alone! I wonder if you can make some small changes to make it work better for you. I find that being the person responsible for all the shopping, cooking, hosting, planning etc sucks out some of the joy and magic…. But planning and prepping early seems to be helping this year so it’s not a last minute slog and stress. Also need to treasure the times when the people you love are around for you to rush around after them, as it isn’t forever!

Cardiganwearer · 29/11/2024 10:21

Astrak · 29/11/2024 09:46

My father died three weeks before Christmas. I was ten years old at the time. I was sent home on the bus (an hour walk from school to the bus stop, twenty miles journey home and another half hour walk from the bus stop home). When I got there, my mother was sitting in the lounge, silent and holding the cat on her lap. My paternal aunt (who I loathed) told me to change my clothes, catch my pony and go for a long ride. Whilst I was changing my clothes, I heard my father's coffin being bumped down the stairs by the undertakers. I watched out of an upstairs window and saw it being loaded into a hearse and driven away. I was not allowed to go to his funeral. I was not allowed to mention his name. The worst part was getting a Christmas present from him, with the tag written in his copperplate handwriting, which I wasn't allowed to keep. I was sent to school the following day.
It's coming up to the sixty-eighth anniversary of his death, and I still miss him.

I’m so so sorry @Astrak for the loss of your father. And they were very wrong to treat you so. The memories must be very hard around Christmas. Sending love and best wishes xx

TwoLeggedGrooveMachine · 29/11/2024 10:31

I like Christmas but I’m lazy and only do what I want to. I save a bit each month towards presents and food. I know that’s not always possible when money is tight all year round. Never did the expensive Santa experiences. We stuck to school and church fair Santas. My family is very small which is sad in some ways but takes the pressure off at Christmas.

OP can you get kids and other family members to pitch in with food prep and washing up? Can you cut back on side dishes etc to reduce costs and effort? Are you doing things because you feel that you should? Can you cut on any effort that isn’t important to your DC having a nice time?

Runki · 29/11/2024 10:36

RedVelvetIcing · 29/11/2024 09:33

Each year I like Christmas less which I do think is a shame but I can’t help the way I feel.
Some family members don’t help as they put a lot of pressure onto me, others go on and on and on about how they are all done in October knowing I’m the single mum in the family that is trying to juggle it all but they tut and scoff if I’m not as organised as they are but everything is done for my child by Christmas.

It’s the last year we are spending it with family so hopefully next year will be a whole lot more enjoyable.

I hear you! I really do. It makes me so anxious when people say they are all ready in October! Or if they ask me if I'm all ready for Christmas, I normally just chuckle nervously. 😂 Thank you so much for your reply.

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CoolPlayer · 29/11/2024 10:36

It’s not just you I’m looking forward to it this year but I’ve had years where I’ve felt like this x

starrymidnight · 29/11/2024 10:37

GoldCat255 · 29/11/2024 09:01

It's just you.

It really isn’t.

Runki · 29/11/2024 10:37

Manchesterbythesea · 29/11/2024 09:18

Since last year I’ve learned that Christmas is not the be all and end all. Last Christmas my brother died. He took his own life a couple of days before and all of a sudden it didn’t matter what I’d bought or not bought or if I’d remembered the sprouts. This year for obvious reasons I’m not really feeling it but I have kids so the tree will go up and Santa will come. But I’m fecked if I care about all the small shit I used to worry about cos it really doesn’t matter!

I am so very sorry. ❤️

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ByQuaintAzureWasp · 29/11/2024 10:39

We opted out. We go abroad to avoid it.

Runki · 29/11/2024 10:40

AmICrazyToEvenBother · 29/11/2024 09:33

Nope, I love Christmas, but I keep it small and am really selective about what I do individually and with my DC. We only do the bits we enjoy!

I do most of my shopping online so any small foray into an actual shop is quite enjoyable and don't get driven to distraction by that shitty song you mentioned (which incidentally gives me the rage).

I used to hate starting the buying too early, but now I get the bulk around Black Friday and have December (mostly) as a month of fun.

Thank you! Oh gawwwwd that song! Just the opening sound at the beginning "Bom bom bom bom"....makes my teeth itch. 😬 😂 I think we should join forces and campaign to have it banned. I actually heard a Musak version of it the other day....I couldn't decide which was worse...that or the original haha 😅

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beguilingeyes · 29/11/2024 10:41

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 29/11/2024 10:39

We opted out. We go abroad to avoid it.

This is the dream....when MIL is no longer with us...

Runki · 29/11/2024 10:42

Cyclebabble · 29/11/2024 09:44

My mom died on Christmas day when I was quite young. Even now I find Christmas really stressful. Particularly when I am around people who really love it. Do not want to spoil anyone else's fun, but worth remembering not everyone is joyful as the year turns.

I am very sorry. I completely understand why you feel like this. ❤️

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Runki · 29/11/2024 10:45

Astrak · 29/11/2024 09:46

My father died three weeks before Christmas. I was ten years old at the time. I was sent home on the bus (an hour walk from school to the bus stop, twenty miles journey home and another half hour walk from the bus stop home). When I got there, my mother was sitting in the lounge, silent and holding the cat on her lap. My paternal aunt (who I loathed) told me to change my clothes, catch my pony and go for a long ride. Whilst I was changing my clothes, I heard my father's coffin being bumped down the stairs by the undertakers. I watched out of an upstairs window and saw it being loaded into a hearse and driven away. I was not allowed to go to his funeral. I was not allowed to mention his name. The worst part was getting a Christmas present from him, with the tag written in his copperplate handwriting, which I wasn't allowed to keep. I was sent to school the following day.
It's coming up to the sixty-eighth anniversary of his death, and I still miss him.

How absolutely heart breaking. I am so sorry. My youngest was nine when his Dad died. It's so young but to go through what you did and not be allowed to talk about it is so awful and so wrong. Sending you all the best.

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TragicMuse · 29/11/2024 10:47

Christmas is absolutely what you make it. You don't have to do the same as everyone else if you don't want to.

I don't like the rampant commercialism that increases by the year. I do love seasonal baking, time with my family, a bit of time off work, nice food...

Choose what's important to you and focus on that. It doesn't matter if it's not what everyone else does.

polyesterdress · 29/11/2024 10:47

Astrak · 29/11/2024 09:46

My father died three weeks before Christmas. I was ten years old at the time. I was sent home on the bus (an hour walk from school to the bus stop, twenty miles journey home and another half hour walk from the bus stop home). When I got there, my mother was sitting in the lounge, silent and holding the cat on her lap. My paternal aunt (who I loathed) told me to change my clothes, catch my pony and go for a long ride. Whilst I was changing my clothes, I heard my father's coffin being bumped down the stairs by the undertakers. I watched out of an upstairs window and saw it being loaded into a hearse and driven away. I was not allowed to go to his funeral. I was not allowed to mention his name. The worst part was getting a Christmas present from him, with the tag written in his copperplate handwriting, which I wasn't allowed to keep. I was sent to school the following day.
It's coming up to the sixty-eighth anniversary of his death, and I still miss him.

I'm really sorry that happened to you and for how badly you were treated ❤️

The whole 'Christmas is the time for the people you love' narrative very difficult if there isn't much love.

Astrak · 29/11/2024 10:47

Cardiganwearer · 29/11/2024 10:21

I’m so so sorry @Astrak for the loss of your father. And they were very wrong to treat you so. The memories must be very hard around Christmas. Sending love and best wishes xx

@Cardiganwearer. Thank you for your kind response. Much appreciated.

SleepyHippy3 · 29/11/2024 10:47

GoldCat255 · 29/11/2024 09:01

It's just you.

Definitely it’s not just the OP. Many people feel this way. Christmas is massively over rated and unnecessarily expensive.

WooleyMunky · 29/11/2024 10:49

Shops full of tat.
Christmas jumper day.
Bono. Fucking Bono.
Can't get in a pub.
Can't get served if you do get in a pub.
When in the pub, eventually served, Bono on the speakers.
Family.
Shit TV, although streaming has somewhat negated this.
Shit radio. Bono again.
Cards.
Office parties.
Secret fucking Santa. Oh, an amusing pair of socks. Lovely.
Turkey is actually tasteless and dry. A plateful of pigs in blankets with gravy would be a far better choice. And one I choose each year, by the way.
Why do they still play that Gary Glitter one?
All of the awful decorations.
And Bono. Fucking Bono. The ghost of Christmas wank.

But, OP, you can opt out. And that is joyful.

Itjustkeepsoncoming · 29/11/2024 10:49

I used to feel like you.

I started buying for my 3 (who are now teenagers) back in January this year to spread the cost, and I can honestly say it has really helped.
I'm a single parent/ unpaid carer to my youngest who is severely disabled.
We don't have a lot of family (and they don't see their father by choice), but in some ways I think that makes it easier for us as we can just have a nice cosy Christmas at home. Just us. No pressure.

I just focus on making it special for us, and pay no attention to what anyone else is doing.
My youngest has the developmental age of a much younger child due to his disability, so he still believes in Santa which is lovely as I still get to enjoy the magic with him.

A few years ago I would feel really low about how much I could afford to spend.
I'd watch Youtube vloggers with wall to wall presents for their children and feel helpless, before I realised that this wasn't the norm!

I don't set my expectations to high, and just set aside little things to enjoy, like a new Christmas film that we haven't seen before, Christmas music, nice food, a good book to read, a new series to watch.......I just see it as precious family time.

9outof10cats · 29/11/2024 10:51

The only thing I like about Christmas is when all the family gets together, but that never happens anymore due to work commitments and the fact we all live in different parts of the country.

I only buy my parents presents and no extra food, other than what I normally buy. Christmas is a fairly low-key, inexpensive time for me, but then I don't have children and luckily can avoid all the razzmatazz.

moose62 · 29/11/2024 10:56

My dad died on Christmas eve when I was 7 years old but my mother kept up all the Christmas traditions. The year my mother died my sisters and I decided not to have a traditional Christmas and all went out for an Italian meal instead. I always made an effort for my children but never really enjoyed Christmas.

Start new traditions with your children....they don't need to be expensive just make sure you enjoy youselves and make the in-laws realise that you and the children come as a package over Christmas.

DrZaraCarmichael · 29/11/2024 10:58

I also make a concerted effort NOT to talk about Christmas with people as it does seem that all anyone ever says in terms of small talk is "Are you ready, finished your shopping, is the tree up yet, what is Santa bringing the kids" on repeat from 1 Dec only.

So for small talk from me you can expect moans about the weather, or the roadworks, or discussion of the Strictly final or whether that new restaurant in the high street is any good rather than the christmas nonsense.