To be shocked at the net migration figures currently being discussed

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Yesterday’s figures discussed by the Tories stated that since 2010 the net migration figures to the UK has equalled the size of the population of Wales. Today we were told the figures to June 2023 showed a net migration figure of nearly 1 million for that year, for the year to June 2024 this had reduced to a mere 3/4 of a million. The numbers coming in of the boats per year alone is equal to a large town. AIBU to think this has to stop. We need to immediately crack down on people allowed into this country- limit it to urgently needed highly skilled jobs and start offshore processing (or similar) of the people who are here illegally (basically like many other countries).

We just can’t cope with those numbers. - no wonder our infrastructure is collapsing, we have a housing crisis etc.

I want to hear from the government how they are going to tackle it. We have heard from the Tories now it is over to Starmer.

I don't know.

It would depend on many, many things. If other countries can flourish with a high population density then high population density isn't fundamentally a bad thing.

This is entirely untrue.

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Here are some statistics on benefits in the UK by ethnicity:
State support
In 2021, white British families were most likely to receive state support, while Chinese families were least likely. White British families were most likely to receive non-income related benefits, such as the State Pension, while families from Bangladeshi and black ethnic groups were most likely to receive income-related benefits, such as help with housing costs.

Persistent low income
Among children, those in black and Asian households were most likely to be in persistent low income. Among working-age adults, those in black, mixed, and Asian households were most likely to be in persistent low income. Among pensioners, those in black households were most likely to be in persistent low income.

Unemployment
In 2022, white people had the lowest unemployment rate at 3%, while people from all other ethnic groups combined had a rate of 6%. People from the Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Asian "other", and black ethnic groups had the highest unemployment rates.

Income-related benefits
In 2015–2018, 29% of families with a head of household who was black/African black/Caribbean or British black received income-related benefits.

@izimbra

"So massively increase costs to local authorities and families - and pay for it, how? Big increases in council tax? Jack up income tax?"

That's the issue- you can either employ cheap imported labour to keep costs (and taxes) down but then have to pay more taxes in benefits to the 9 million economically inactive.

Or not employ cheap imported labour which raises costs (and taxes) but then pay lower taxes from a reduction in benefits because of lower numbers that are.economically inactive.

The interview I heard wasn't for that reason. He said his life was at risk but lied.

How would someone get through the system?

@izimbra

"If other countries can flourish with a high population density then high population density isn't fundamentally a bad thing."

Higher population density is most definitely a bad thing for the environment.

Supermarket profits squeeze the actual food producers margins which impacts agricultural workers.

There are lots of middlemen between field and fork and multinationals control the market.

The students can’t be contributing these NET migration figures though. Since for every batch of new starts there should be an equal number of graduates leaving (if what you say is true and they leave).

Beats me.

I am sure there are odd cases of fraud. But those numbers are solid.

Just like there ate occasional serial killers, but most murder victims are killed by someone they know.

What stirs up the audience, the serial killer or the husband who hit too hard?

What stirs up the audience, brown people pretending to be gay so they can sneak in here (and no doubt claim benefits), or boring, solid numbers compiled by trained civil servants?

Unfortunately the immigrants who were contributing to our economy have just got on their private planes and fucked off thanks to the Budget (actually I know some that left before that as soon as the proposals were announced by the Tories). They want to get their solid 10 year non- resident status up and running assp. Seems we don’t want the rich migrants.

Migrants are net takers from the system. That’s just a fact. Immigration is not good for the country in any sense whatsoever.

The statistics simply cannot be refuted. Migrants are more likely to claim benefits, live in social housing, be economically inactive.

Just one staggering one is that 70% of Somalis live in social housing.

Importing people to add to the financial burden on the ever shrinking number of productive people in the country is sheer madness.

But politicians love it. Because they are incompetent and corrupt. In fact the public sector in general loves it. Because a bloated welfare and immigration system is a money spinner for them. Rinsing the taxpayer for as much as they can steal

Awww nothing to see here then. Let’s all move on. Immigration has been amazing for the country. Per capita income has gone up. It’s made the country truly richer and more prosperous.

On planet lala land maybe.

Also, who are these trained civil servants you speak of. The ones running the country where nothing works. These people couldn’t organize a piss up in a brewery. They are so useless that a year the event, we find that immigration figures published for 2023 weren’t correct to begin with.

It doesn’t quite give your argument the weight you are looking for.

Exactly. It also doesn’t account for different cultures - British people think the countryside is an important part of their national heritage www.futurecountryside.org/polling

You know that you saying fact doesn't make it a fact. An opinion with no actual evidence is not fact because I will give you evidence to show. That that is not correct.They are not met takers if anything, immigrants do help the economy very well.
Migrants contribute more than they receive
According to a 2017 National Academies of Sciences report, immigrants contribute more to government revenue than they receive in services, especially when accounting for the contributions of their children.
Migrants contribute to the economy for a long time
According to the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), migrants earning the average wage contribute to the economy for nearly their entire life, until they are over 90.

Plus many do work so it's people like you that makes people say this is fuelled by racism @Ytcsghisn

2017? And could you have found a more obscure source.

Anyway, You’re going to be shocked when you find out this is 2024.

Do better.

Plus today's figures are not about illegal. These are legal immigrants that we have invited and welcomed here. Loads are in the NHS. There are loads doing care, work, construction workers, lots of different people. I genuinely think people don't realize that migration does help economies.

Try again, no idea what this is supposed to mean.

Nope do better meana fuck all it's a report according to , the radio, they reckon that immigration and immigrants to this country contribute forty billion

Yup.
Bis issue, when I used to go into town was sold by UK sellers.

Now bullied off their pitches by gangs who most definitely are not from UK.

The Big Issue don't care, as it's more money for the magazine staff.

The police were called as this poor young man was physically shoved off his pitch by a horrible man who was dropping off woman with picnic chairs and flasks to sell the magazine.

The poor UK guy was in tears.

Then there is shoplifting.. organised crime.

Plus loads of other things.

Surgeons and Doctors are needed...Thieves are not.

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I don’t think you understand how the economy works.

That's the problem isn't it you have stated its a fact that they don't want to work ans that's not true

Hahah thank you! I miss Succession so much! 😂🥲

I do it's you that doesn't

Like I say, you’re going to be shocked when you realize this is year 2024. You’re about 7 years behind the times. Almost 8. Like almost a whole decade.

So that's all migrants is it man alive the racists are here. Some may be bad just like there are bad british people to. But overall immigration is a postove effect on economy