To be shocked at the net migration figures currently being discussed

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Yesterday’s figures discussed by the Tories stated that since 2010 the net migration figures to the UK has equalled the size of the population of Wales. Today we were told the figures to June 2023 showed a net migration figure of nearly 1 million for that year, for the year to June 2024 this had reduced to a mere 3/4 of a million. The numbers coming in of the boats per year alone is equal to a large town. AIBU to think this has to stop. We need to immediately crack down on people allowed into this country- limit it to urgently needed highly skilled jobs and start offshore processing (or similar) of the people who are here illegally (basically like many other countries).

We just can’t cope with those numbers. - no wonder our infrastructure is collapsing, we have a housing crisis etc.

I want to hear from the government how they are going to tackle it. We have heard from the Tories now it is over to Starmer.

This is so true. I don't understand the obsession with borders or fearing otherness. It has always been like this though.

One thing that it going to be very interesting to observe is what happens in 20-30 years when we have to start begging and pleading with people to come here because we don't have enough young people. I'd love to see what anti-immigration people think when there's no one to empty their bins.

I agree. My boomer parents talk about them like they're sub-human rather than a person who works and contributes to a society. Likewise my FIL who lives in Spain leaching off their health service whilst contributing nothing but hates immigrants.

Exactly. There is such a culture of superiority starting in schools. My son was TOLD OFF in year 10 for saying he wanted to work in a low paid job after GCSEs . They push and push and make children feel as if they have to be the best or they are a failure you then have certain careers celebrated and others demonised - yet we need the lower paid workers to keep society going ! Nobody wants these jobs so of course people would want to come here to do the jobs we are told we are too good for

It’s laughable 25% think yabu

how do you plan infrastructure (schools, roads, GPs, housing etc etc etc) with that level of uncontrolled population movement and influx.

its highly problematic and I say that as a child of an immigrant married to an immigrant

i think controlled immigration is good and is 💯 needed but i dont think that is what the uk has

The malicious side of me would love to record people making anti-immigration statements, so that I can come back to them in 2044 and see what they think then. It'll be exactly like Covid - they'll suddenly claim we couldn't have foreseen the situation, we were doing our best at the time blah blah blah. Such typical behaviour.

WE NEED IMMIGRATION. Desperately, just to survive. Politicians pretend we don't because so many voters have no ability to be in any way rational about it (going back to that primal thing). You read it here. Remember it. It will become glaringly obvious in quite a short while.

The UK is such a work shy population you guys really need us. I am an immigrant, though only live here because my DH is British.

So glad we did Brexit and took away our own rights/ crashed our economy to get rid of the immigrants.

Wait.....

I’ve never seen a nob white bin man where I live

So ignorant... the bulk of the migrants are not coming in on boats! That's just what the media focuses on.... it's all about the students and legal migrants!

Illegal migrants aren't housed in hotels.

they are putting them their until they decide if they are staying or not

I am married to an immigrant to the UK, and I am very much in favour of controlled migration. However, the "we need immigrants to do the jobs that others won't" argument is a fallacy. Unless we somehow find a source of people willing to work for low wages who never themselves get old or need care, it's basically a Ponzi scheme.

Neither of the main parties has any credibility on this issue, and I think that Farage and his ilk will exploit this. Hence Kemi Badenough trying to out-Nigel Reform in her latest missive.

You're going to get people calling you right wing etc.

Yes the nation needs immigrants for cheap labour. But 900,000 in one year? Insanity.

A country this size can't absorb those numbers and well meaning people disregard what social upheaval it causes.

I'm not sure what you're saying?

There is too much legal immigration. However, we’re caught between a rock and a hard place - we need people to come to do jobs and stimulate the economy. It’s going to take decades to get training up to a level where we don’t need people to fill skills shortages.

The immigration and asylum system is a total mess. No one seems to have a clue about the kind of system we need or want. Politicians terrified of not sounding tough enough, or sounding too tough.

The whole debate seems to be dominated by two extreme views - those on the right, who think all immigration is bad, stop it immediately, etc. and those more on the left who see all immigration as unrelentingly positive. The reality lies between the two, but barely gets a look in, and no debate happens because everyone is terrified of looking racist or xenophobic.

It’s all extremely depressing.

This is why the focus on the boats is not very relevant.
You can "stop the boats" but this is legal migration.

People who come over on boats are a small percentage of the overall migration figure.

Country is in a complete mess. Where are the housing, schools etc to accommodate these people?

You’re not wrong

It genuinely frightens me that people think 'we need immigrants for cheap labour.' Do people genuinely think there are no immigrants who are talented, intelligent, entrepreneurial, strong, or just plain capable?

Who will do the shitty jobs??

I'm sure slave owners asked the same thing. How everyone applauds this inverse racist shite astounds me, but it's usually normal that left wingers turn out to be the real racists.

Why don't we make sure the there are no shitty jobs, either through higher renumeration or better working conditions or preferably both.

The economy will not collapse without a million Uber eats drivers entering the country each year.

It only takes one simple change to policy to fix all this. No access to the NHS, benefits system, education or social housing for 5 years after arrival, unless you pay up front. Anyone self sufficient will stay, the spongers will leave.

It’s still over 30,000 a year and in 2022 it was 46,000 (coming over on boats)

No, they are actually all racists, despite how much they think their farts smell like roses.

So solving the boats problem will barely impact migration figures at all

Labour have already deported more people since coming to power than the Tories managed in their last 18 months or so. They've also made changes to the relevant legislation to improve the efficiency of assylum processing and reduce the use of hotel accommodation.

Unlike the Tories who deliberately collapsed processing, in a completely inept attempt at creating a 'hostile' environment and awarded several 10 year long contracts, worth billions to private firms to house asylum seekers, just before they were removed from power.

This migrantion issue is truly one the greatest acts of manipulation the world has ever seen. The right wing literally had complete control of migration for over a decade and chose to increase it year on year on year, yet somehow great chunks of the public blame the left for it.