To be shocked at the net migration figures currently being discussed

[Feelingathomenow]

Yesterday’s figures discussed by the Tories stated that since 2010 the net migration figures to the UK has equalled the size of the population of Wales. Today we were told the figures to June 2023 showed a net migration figure of nearly 1 million for that year, for the year to June 2024 this had reduced to a mere 3/4 of a million. The numbers coming in of the boats per year alone is equal to a large town. AIBU to think this has to stop. We need to immediately crack down on people allowed into this country- limit it to urgently needed highly skilled jobs and start offshore processing (or similar) of the people who are here illegally (basically like many other countries).

We just can’t cope with those numbers. - no wonder our infrastructure is collapsing, we have a housing crisis etc.

I want to hear from the government how they are going to tackle it. We have heard from the Tories now it is over to Starmer.

What % are high skilled vs low skilled?

Claim asylum here after passing through dozens of safe countries.

They'll hide behind the law which is the problem. Immigration law, and soft liberals, have turned Europe into a dumping ground for the rest of the world's undesirables.

@1dayatatime I already have.
I honestly can't deal with constantly explaining racism to posters who then deny the racism.

Still waiting though aren’t we? Where’s the direct quote of what anyone here has said that is racist? It’s not that difficult?

I think its the numbers, its always been the numbers.

And these large numbers are LEGAL migration, the boats and asylum hotels are a side show to the hundreds and thousands of legal migration - as that's the Hong Kong type economy the Tories rolled out in the UK since the 80's and Blair continued , carried on by Cameron et al.

People are so manipulated by the media they are fed 1 million immigrants and shown pictures of illegal immigration- boats and fed stories of rape and terrorism by asylum seekers, when there's no real connection, the 100s of thousands coming are propping up our fucked up economy on legal work permits, with no criminal records and behaving themselves.

Most of your health insurance policies don't cover operations in Spain such as hip replacements. You can fully use our public health care system is you have residence in Spain for a year. It is bringing our whole economy down, its totally unsustainable.

Talking about migration, I think this whole anti immigration sentiment is not just in the UK, it affects all Europe including Spain with unfortunately our far right party rising.
With climate change we will be seing huge amount of migrants scaping severe draughts and extreme climates. They need to eat, they want to give their families a better future. It's a global issue. Closing the door to them won't solve anything.

@RafaistheKingofClay

"Actually a lot of it will require better employers and better rights and working conditions for employees. With more requirements for employers to make adjustments and fewer work arounds to stop them trying to not employ those with disabilities and long term health conditions."

I completely agree or alternatively employers can import cheap migrant labour and not bother with improving working conditions and workers rights.

You have a nerve! I explained your racism to you in some detail.
I will leave this thread now.

I wouldn't know the breakdown (and i'd include all health workers as skilled assuming they've got previous experience in the profession).

But if a million people come here in a year, then how many are doctors and how many are delivering takeaways, for example?

ahhh the classic. Have a great evening!

A lesson to all that if you call anyone with legitimate immigration concerns a racist without any proof or reasoning, you just look like an idiot.

It is not asylum seekers but levels of legal migration which are the issue. Why should we be pleased if we are told that migration is high quality or low quality? Does the UK looks better? Better services? Improved work conditions? Cheaper housing?

No. It has been used as a stop gap to stop bothering with investment, decent employment standards, reasonable wages, working conditions. We get someone in rather than look at the problems our society has on education, employment, health. It’s outrageous.

We should be following the same policy as Australia and take a tough stance instead of being the soft touch of Europe. This is the reason why the country is on its knees, we simply cannot afford to support illegal immigrants. Surely the solution should be ‘Anyone attempting to enter the country illegally by boat will be returned to their home country or a third country,

I think there’s a lot of people struggling to see where you have done this. No one wants to see racism here, so perhaps you can just point out where you have set out the racist comments you have found on this thread.

The whole point of immigration, for our purposes, is to grow the economy and provide skilled workers.

Immigration is at record levels yet our economy has never been in a worse state. It's not worked. Low levels of immigration the vast majority were happy with and the economy was better off.

Ignoring MN who are black and brown, they do not matter. They are supposed to just put up with the racism/

There are plenty of, as you put it, black and brown British people who are against current immigration levels.

This 100%. For too long we have ignored the need to make sure everyone who can work works. We have been dumbing down society, we have been seeing erudition as something to ridicule. Our whole attitude across all ages needs to change. We need to value hard work again Then we won’t need immigrants we have enough people in this country already

It was in reply to cockwomblers talking about how british women were at risk. I clearly explain it in two comments.

I’ve looked at that, sorry I can’t see where you have explained why what she said is racist. Can you just explain further

I explained that this was about black and brown MNers expected to put up with the racism on MN.
Talking about immigration is not racist. Being racist as some on this thread have been is racist.
Any thread about immigration is a siren call to racists. They all pile on.

Maybe we should start a petition for the government to follow the Australian Policy on illegal immigration - they may actual learn something!

That figure is quite high. It's hard to cut as things like universities rely on o/s fees and we bring in care workers etc

I'm sure there will be pressure to get it down

On trafficking / smuggling it's not a good way with deaths and risk etc

It was in reply to cockwomblers talking about how british women were at risk. I clearly explain it in two comments.

But there are varying instances of sexual assault depending on cultural background. I don't know if it's collated in the UK but I've seen some fairly stark figures from Germany and the Scandi countries.
It's got bugger all to do with race though, it's the culture within which someone was brought up.

@Feelingathomenow I am sorry. I am so angry at this thread. So angry at the racism. I am not going to plough through pages over the last hour to find the comments. You can do exactly what I would have to do to find them.

Yeah so a lot of this simply isn’t true. There is a very long winded and pedantic process to get to be a legal immigrant. It is also very expensive. Thousands and thousands and thousands are needed, You aren’t allowed to claim benefits or housing while you are in the process of becoming a legal person (indefinite leave to remain)which if memory serves it takes two years for a married person to a Brit or five years if not. The person sponsoring you also has to prove through bank statements, employment letter to show salary and living arrangements that they can support you for two years or you have to bring over enough money to do that yourself. Your sponsor has to “claim responsibility” for you if for example you blow through all your money as again you can’t claim benefits.

You can use healthcare but applying for an nhs number takes time. You also need a bank account but you can’t get one unless you can provide evidence of living at a UK- address. Believe me it isn’t easy.

I appreciate this is for legal immigration but just to be clear. It isn’t easy, There is a lot of proof, evidence and paperwork involved. You can’t claim benefits until you are through( the process. And it’s expensive. That’s experience from an English speaking commonwealth country applicant.