To be shocked at the net migration figures currently being discussed

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Yesterday’s figures discussed by the Tories stated that since 2010 the net migration figures to the UK has equalled the size of the population of Wales. Today we were told the figures to June 2023 showed a net migration figure of nearly 1 million for that year, for the year to June 2024 this had reduced to a mere 3/4 of a million. The numbers coming in of the boats per year alone is equal to a large town. AIBU to think this has to stop. We need to immediately crack down on people allowed into this country- limit it to urgently needed highly skilled jobs and start offshore processing (or similar) of the people who are here illegally (basically like many other countries).

We just can’t cope with those numbers. - no wonder our infrastructure is collapsing, we have a housing crisis etc.

I want to hear from the government how they are going to tackle it. We have heard from the Tories now it is over to Starmer.

If you live in a working class northern area like me, you will see only white people doing these sorts of jobs. In fact, on my housing estate, all the immigrants are in professional roles, like doctors and nurses.

@mnhq Come on, this thread is like a klaxon to racists. Why the hell is it still up?

I’m not Christian?

That’s because they are not. They have insurances. They don’t, or more likely, are unable, to claim any social provision.

Explain where there is anything ‘racist’ being said? You still haven’t?

The new arrivals are moving into the properties* vacated by the net decline in the UK population - i.e. people who have died or who themselves moved away from the UK.

*Clearly they are not literally moving into these houses, but the 745,000 people who arrived in the UK in 2022 replaced the 518,000 who left the UK (either by death or emigration) so the net population increase was only 227,000.

1. The numbers need to be far better controlled

2. Anyone coming here illegally should not be allowed to jump the queue and stay here, this whole staying in hotels at our expense for fighting age single males has to stop.

3. If you want to come here then there's legal routes via visas. The Home Office can then control the numbers coming in for worker visas.

4. The numbers do get inflated by student visas (which expire) and then if they find a job and stay via worker visas then that's not a bad thing.

Yes we need the health care workers and other skilled workers, but letting in endless young men to deliver us Mcdonalds on bikes is not a net benefit

It’s totally different, the Jews were being targeted across countries by a regime intent on annihilating them

It’s not racist to complain about immigration. Your comment is typical of the mindset that will ensure the most anti-immigration party will win the next election.

Talk about missing the point!
I am not Muslim or Christian either. So what?

A refusal to deal with the problem and shouting at anyone who points it out just leads to further self harm measures like Brexit.

I think it is difficult for us to imagine what it’s like to be in the shoes of someone who has had to flee their homeland. They have probably risked their life getting to Europe. Perhaps coming to the UK just feels like a little bit more of the same?

I imagine the pull of family would be especially strong.

I agree it is not racist to complain about immigration. It is racist to make racist comments and there are plenty of those on this thread.

If I was a mother in Syria with teenage boys and I could get them across to Europe I would. Saying they should stay as they are of "fighting age" is absurd

And yet we are still waiting for you to highlight them to us??

All the young Brits are leaving because the UK is a low wage shit hole with crap weather, so that plus deaths from an ageing population means we need people coming in.

If you haven't seen what the journey of an illegal immigrant is like I recommend looking it up. The small boats part is actually the least dangerous for the majority, many Afghans are shot dead by the Iranian border force before they even make it to Europe. After that they're trekking through knee deep snow over mountains. So all we're seeing is the few survivors left after that.

Meanwhile people complain if Tesco is out of the brand of bread they like and think that they have it hard because a Freddo costs more than it used to.

I have explained some of your racism. You ignored my comment.

We need migrants. We can't carry several hundreds of thousands of NET migrants every year.

Anyone vaguely sensible recognises these two sentences, but the politicians will not make the choices needed.

It’s a matter which is being discussed widely in the news across all parties other countries are having similar conversations. It’s a matter that directly impacts many people in the uk.

Makes no sense. If the thread is full of racist remarks, just copy and paste them here? I must have missed them.

I used to be pro-migration. Still am to some extent. This isn't migration - it's unmanaged chaos. I've always voted (and have been) extremely liberal and I'll admit this is shifting me to the right.

I've got a plan though. For the 35% of you that are OK with this, you can opt into a special tax where you agree to pay more to ensure that all the new arrivals have a decent set of services, healthcare etc. The remaining 65% of us can applaud your generous nature.

Could I add:

But we have an ageing population - conveniently forgetting that if you increase the population now then you will have an even bigger ageing population in say 30 years time and so on.
You're racist / fascist
The existing poor British are simply too lazy to do these menial jobs (ignoring that they are massively underpaid) so let's just write them off.
They are fleeing the war and oppression of France.
They are all legitimate asylum seekers with absolutely no economic migrants.
It's all the fault of the UK for starting wars in Vietnam and Albania anyway.

Maybe we could get rid of retirement as an option. The falling birth rate would be less of an issue, you wouldn’t need more working age people to come into the country to boost the economy and support those who are too old for working. We could reduce the welfare bill at the same time. What’s not to like?

Many of us used to be liberal lefties, until the liberal left got taken over by largely middle class folk who refused to listen to and acknowledge the issues happening in working class towns and neighbourhoods, mostly affected by this immigration.

the next GA will be Reform if this continues.

@ForRealTurtle

"I agree it is not racist to complain about immigration. It is racist to make racist comments and there are plenty of those on this thread."

Could you please give some examples.