To be shocked at the net migration figures currently being discussed

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Yesterday’s figures discussed by the Tories stated that since 2010 the net migration figures to the UK has equalled the size of the population of Wales. Today we were told the figures to June 2023 showed a net migration figure of nearly 1 million for that year, for the year to June 2024 this had reduced to a mere 3/4 of a million. The numbers coming in of the boats per year alone is equal to a large town. AIBU to think this has to stop. We need to immediately crack down on people allowed into this country- limit it to urgently needed highly skilled jobs and start offshore processing (or similar) of the people who are here illegally (basically like many other countries).

We just can’t cope with those numbers. - no wonder our infrastructure is collapsing, we have a housing crisis etc.

I want to hear from the government how they are going to tackle it. We have heard from the Tories now it is over to Starmer.

I'm still laughing at the opening post. The Tories, it says, are fulminating over the increase in immigration since 2010, when the Tories took power.

Now they're demanding to know what Labour's going to about the issue the Tories created. Well, it's true that Labour's entire five years WILL be spent fixing the damage the Tories caused ... but the Tories are hardly covering themselves in glory by repeatedly highlighting this fact, are they?!

Bingo!
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Yes, many of those are ill so they are literally relying on migrants to staff the NHS and get them their operations. Others are carers so they would need to employ childcare or social carers so no net gain. Plus students.

The government stopped building the houses it needed to maintain stock. This had the advantage of meaning demand outstripped supply and caused prices to rise, making home owners asset rich but putting housing out of the reach of many more people. Then they blamed it on immigrants so you wouldn’t blame it on them.

The government always have a handy enemy for you to blame for their errors, first it was the EU, and EU immigration, now its other migrants. If they ever manage to lower net migration figures to any sort of low level it’ll be someone else. However, this is unlikely to happen.

If there were no „imaginary lines“ and anyone could move anywhere anytime, do you think something like a welfare state would exist?
How would that work?

but why do you think they don’t want to? Not goady, just interested in your personal opinion as to why you think persecuted people, fleeing terrible situations might want to travel through multiple safe countries and not stop in a single one of them?

Afghans were welcomed. There was a scheme in place where councils had to take them in and then house them out of their budget. They were housed in hotels and council owned property.

When the Ukraine war started there literally wasn't any space for Ukrainians as the accommodation was already used for Afghans, so the home a Ukrainian scheme was set up instead.

Also 'what about Brits in Magaluf' - that is also bad, and if the Spanish government wanted to stop immigration from the UK, that would be their prerogative!

Also, Labour have said what they are going to do about lots of the issues, so people could just read about it if they were actually bothered. I’d imagine advertising the number of people that have been processed and removed under the Labour government might be a bit embarrassing for the Tories.

Always worth bearing in mind that the U.K. doesn’t have a particularity good system for tracking people leaving the country. I think the last government had to admit that with the asylum seekers they’d lost track of they weren’t sure how many were actually still in the country.

You’ve totally danced round my question. I’ll ask again in a more simple way: do you think that an increase in population of 906,000 people would have an impact on our infrastructure?

I haven't read the full thread but a huge number of people have been resettled from Hong Kong over the past few years due to an open door policy for anyone who disagreed with Chinese rule.

Which migration of Irish people? Are we talking the potato famine?

How can you know that?

How can we still need low paid workers when so many people are coming here?

Surley what we are asking for is not right.
To live somewhere like Australia you have a very strict entry system and requirements

Tbh I would actually rather that the jobs market, universities, training, access to support was strongly limited to UK citizens. We have left the EU, we aren’t bound to a requirement to have equal treatment in migration, but we have to do something to favour our own people. We have lost our social contract with each other. We built this country after the war with a welfare state and common resources. Countries are not just about economics. They are about functioning societies.

Mass migration is a disaster on the scale announced today without massive social investment. This country cannot take in a million people in a year and have several million in benefits. This is a social disaster waiting to happen - we’ve had some riots that tell us just what it might look like.

Limit international students and university fees will have to rise significantly.

No ... it is an open door for policy for anyone of 5m people, whether they are against Chinese rule or whole heartedly support Chinese rule.

Utter madness.

It really does not bother me.

It should bother anyone who is a feminist.

Hmm lots of Afghans ended up having to come over in small boats and claim asylum. They system for claiming asylum here, even those that worked for us, is widely regarded as having been a shambles.

Pretty sure the home a Ukranian thing was set up so we didn’t have to grant Ukranian refugees asylum status. Mind you, we’d probably given up processing asylum seekers by that point and just decided putting them up in hotels for eternity was a better option.

This is probably going to be quite unpopular to say but... immigrants from certain cultures/countries are more beneficial than others.

Check out the UK crime statistics. The immigrants from Hong Kong on the whole are very beneficial members of society, they aren't committing crime at a higher rate than the native population.

Compare that to Albanians...

They should pay a lot more and subsidise our best people. The UK needs homegrown talent.

I paid NHS surcharge when I came to the country and on my visa 'no resource to public funds' was stated but I was allowed to use NHS. Your husband can use NHS services.

UK unfortunately don't have any natural resources like Norway, nor it has landmass of USA, so it is understandable why British people are worried. Government needs to come up with a plan to come to an optimal number of immigrants. Even from immigrants' point of view, it is not possible to sustain good quality of living with these numbers.

Stop being racist.

Explain how that’s racist, please?