To be shocked at the net migration figures currently being discussed

[Feelingathomenow]

Yesterday’s figures discussed by the Tories stated that since 2010 the net migration figures to the UK has equalled the size of the population of Wales. Today we were told the figures to June 2023 showed a net migration figure of nearly 1 million for that year, for the year to June 2024 this had reduced to a mere 3/4 of a million. The numbers coming in of the boats per year alone is equal to a large town. AIBU to think this has to stop. We need to immediately crack down on people allowed into this country- limit it to urgently needed highly skilled jobs and start offshore processing (or similar) of the people who are here illegally (basically like many other countries).

We just can’t cope with those numbers. - no wonder our infrastructure is collapsing, we have a housing crisis etc.

I want to hear from the government how they are going to tackle it. We have heard from the Tories now it is over to Starmer.

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Indeed, they aren't welcome here until they value women and girls and education and equality of the sexes.

It is ridiculous and legal migration is by design. What a bloody disaster. I hope the Labour government end this model where foreign labour with dependents is effectively preferred. The Conservatives have just exploited this for money, all the time. Replacing one form of temporary migration which was highly qualified with migration which is dependent, lesser qualified and paid less, in greater numbers. The Tory Party spent all its time going on about Rwanda as if no one would notice the legal migration fiddle they put in post Brexit.

Brexit was idiotic, with some exceptions European migrants are more likely to integrate and to be productive. We have had to bring in migrants from other parts of the world to fill the vacuum when Europeans left.

Well yes. The fact this can be seen well in advance would suggest there’s more behind it than just ‘justification’.

the climate is shifting and that will inevitably lead to migration. I suppose you should just hope you’re not in an area that would lead you to have to make that choice.

Primates, big cats, wolves, some whale species and even your garden robin has territory.
Borders aren't unique to humans. They are a way of keeping safe.

the vast majority of people coming from Ukraine were women and children the men stayed to fight. The vast majority of those from Afghanistan are men leaving their wives under the Taliban

... because, of course, ALL British men do.

It was done by a bunch of exploitative employers and Tories who could not wait to have a system that meant they could employ foreign labour at cheap rates, and employ non unionised staff in public services. Suited them down to the ground.

But as a whole, yes they do, that is the norm on British culture. We develop words like misogyny and chauvinism to indicate this. There will always be outliers

So you approve of this exploitative system ? You're happy not to pay a living wage to people who do essential jobs.

Well, that remains to be seen but there’s no guarantee that life here won’t be highly negatively affected.

Not just London. Visit Maidstone. Gangs of lads hanging around outside hotels. Is changing the make up of the town.

But they are already here. Why welcome more men that don't value women! Seriously it's not rocket science, we have x number of men who don't value women already, let's not increase those numbers 🙄

Exactly. Humans are tribal, they always have been. I’m always absolutely astounded by the number of people who seem to think John Lennon songs are a blue print for society

This thread is a reflection of real life.
Two thirds of people who voted agree with you @Feelingathomenow but many of the actual posts on this thread are those of the minority who are unable to join the dots.

So, those who shout loudest may think they carry the day but the majority are not with them. Unless those in power realise this, pretty quickly, then we are finally going to do what a lot of Europe has already done and a truly Far Right government-who make Farage et al look like kittens-will be voted in.

Let;s not forget that the reason the Tories lost the election was because so many were angry at their handling of immigration and went to Reform. That feeling is not going away any time soon.

To be able to bark racist at anyone who feels- as the majority of those who voted on this thread do- that we have a problem has been the default position for some time and- for some time- it was very effective in silencing those who can see that there is a problem.

The term is starting to lose its potency however and many people are now no longer frightened of being called racist if they think there is a problem with immigration. Of course, the old dinosaurs-many who have posted here- have not realised this and continue to throw the term about.

They have not yet realised that it is no longer an effective weapon in shutting people up. They are behind the zeitgeist of the majority-70% on this thread and a similar number throughout the country.

If to make negative remarks about i immigration is to be racist then so-many say-be it.

The is a flawed premise - we cannot grow exponentially forever... are we just to continue to explode the population within this small densely populated country forever?

The problem is that mass unskilled migration just lowers wages in these types of jobs. If people are paid enough, they will do these jobs

It's awful. Not working just hanging around. Of they are legal getvthem working, if not be gone.

The almost 1m migrants coming here was under a Tory Government.

275k came from India alone.... that trade deal

Sorry but its since 2019, under a Tory Govt that migration has gone from 219k to 906k....

Migration has always hovered around 200k, so why did the Tories allow to go to 900k ???

Its happened under a right wing Govt.... Labour now have to deal with this, alongside everything else the Tories fucked up.

97% of the figures released today came here through legal immigration. Just saying.

That's why it's called "net migration" 🙄

Seriously, come on

We all share the same planet

The natural tribe size of around 25 people isn't viable - we have to live as part of a bigger society - so we have tribes within tribes within tribes to make things function

Why can't that biggest level of society encompass the whole ?

Maybe that’s the answer. Plonk a load of caravans around Home Counties commuter belt naice villages and move the immigrants there

@Hunglikeapolevaulter

"what is it really that bothers you about migration"

A very good question so from my perspective it is:

Seems ridiculous for taxes to be paying for UK nationals to be economically inactive and then import cheaper labour to do the jobs that UK nationals are not willing to do for the salaries on offer. A similar set up was used for the sugar plantations in the West Indies except they called it the slave trade.

Increasing the population increases pressure on the existing infrastructure, causes environmental damage, pressures on healthcare, education etc