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Partner won’t stop drinking even though his sperm analysis is bad and I’ve had 3 miscarriages

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Jackie8787 · 26/11/2024 19:17

My partner and I have been trying to conceive for the last year. In that time, I’ve had 3 miscarriages. All of my tests so far have come back ok, although I am still very much aware that the issue could lie with me as there can be so many possible causes.
My partner has now had 2 sperm analysis a few months apart. The first one was after my 2nd miscarriage and the most recent analysis was after my 3rd miscarriage. Both results have come back with low morphology (< 1%) and the count/motility aren’t great either.
He’s always liked a drink and regularly has beers or wine on week nights and weekend. I asked him to cut down before we started trying as we are late thirties and I was aware that alcohol can affect fertility. He never did.
After my second miscarriage and his sperm analysis, I gently broached the subject again and asked if he would be willing to cut out alcohol completely and I would do the same (even though I hardly drink). He agreed but it lasted less than a week.
After my 3rd miscarriage and his second SA, I said we really need to try cutting out alcohol. I’ve always been careful never to blame him as we don’t know that his sperm is causing the miscarriages, but as we know sperm regenerates over 3 months, surely it has to be worth a try. Again, he said he would.
We’ve just had a huge argument because he’s still drinking most nights and asked me if he could have some wine tonight. I told him he knows my thoughts but he’s an adult so he needs to make that decision and he’s gone off at me saying that I’m not a dr and that I’m blaming him ‘fine, it’s all my fault etc’.
I don’t know what to do next, am I being unreasonable? I feel like if he cared about having a child as much as he makes out, then it wouldn’t be that hard to cut out alcohol just for a few months, especially after how traumatic the last miscarriage was.

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LoveHearts69 · 26/11/2024 19:53

Oooof that’s quite a lot especially if he’s drinking on his own or got work the next day? 4-5 beers or a bottle of wine is a lot more than just the odd drink with dinner or a glass of wine to wind down at the weekend.

You’d obviously have to give up alcohol for 9 months if you got pregnant so the fact he won’t even try for 3 months is worrying!

MyCatIsBeautiful · 26/11/2024 19:55

That’s a high average. He needs to stop drinking that much generally before having a baby.

Plastictrees · 26/11/2024 19:55

Jackie8787 · 26/11/2024 19:50

It changes and he has cut down slightly over the last few months, but average 4-5 beers. Sometimes it’s just 1 or 2, sometimes a glass or 2 of wine, sometimes a bottle.
It’s not really the amount that bothers me, it’s just the need to have some, to the point he can’t try cutting it out completely for a few months to see if it makes a difference.

What are his reasons for not stopping?

HelenTudorFisk · 26/11/2024 19:55

It’s interesting that he wants a baby, but isn’t willing to do anything to increase the chances of that happening.
If that is his attitude, I would be very wary of what effort he will be prepared to put in when a baby actually arrives - sounds like it’s something he wants I theory but doesn’t want to have to lift a finger. This does not bode well for the future.

PhoenixFireBum24 · 26/11/2024 19:55

I just wanted to say, I'm so truly sorry for you for all your losses.
I do empathise, as I had multiple losses - and it was truly horrendous.
Very different scenario, but I later found out my ex had been abusing non-prescribed opiate and opiod medication whilst we had been TTC.
So, I'm sorry my first comment sounded so blunt. I think I was triggered by relating to your post.

CuriouslyMinded · 26/11/2024 19:56

Dear OP, firstly, I'm so sorry for your losses.
I went through this with my DP. In the end it turned out that it was my low progesterone causing the issue (though I have PCOS and our issues may be completely different and I only mention it because I remember being desperate for even anecdotal avenues of enquiry)
My DP, like yours from the sound of things, has a low level alcohol dependency. He is not an alcoholic exactly, and he is never sloppy-drunk or unable to get up for work etc. etc. but when I asked him to give up alcohol while we were trying to conceive, he found it very hard.
Alcohol is probably a stress reliever for your DP, it allows the world to be a little bit fuzzy and could mean he perhaps doesn't have to feel his pain and anxiety over your journey to parenthood quite so keenly. My DP definitely self-medicated to take the edge off his own hurt and fear and he was also frightened about what he would feel without a drink.
I don't think your DP's difficulties around drinking automatically mean that he doesn't want a child or doesn't care as others have suggested. You're doing everything you can, and he needs to find his own way to this.
When he has calmed down, you could perhaps say that you really do want to try being completely alcohol free for three months to give his sperm the best chance of success. Also point out what you are doing/not doing to prepare your body for pregnancy.
He might just need to be reminded that this is a team effort and not two individuals pulling separately. I am sorry you have to deal with this along with everything else and I do hope he can see and appreciate that this is not something else you should have to shoulder.
Wishing you love and luck and healing. 💗

Miloarmadillo2 · 26/11/2024 19:57

So 8-10 units 4 to 5 times a week - at least 3 times the NHS guidelines. He’s at the very least a problem drinker and a selfish person. Not great fatherhood material.
I have a good friend who had kids with a drinker who it (much) later became obvious was an alcoholic - she’s been to hell and back multiple times. Don’t do it.

MrsKwazi · 26/11/2024 19:59

He is showing you loud and clear who he is OP, are you listening?
Do not have a baby with him.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 26/11/2024 19:59

I feel like if he cared about having a child as much as he makes out, then it wouldn’t be that hard to cut out alcohol just for a few months, especially after how traumatic the last miscarriage was.

you are completely and utterly correct and personally I would refuse unprotected sex or sex until he stops.

Either he can’t stop (which is a problem) or he won’t stop (which shows a huge lack of care for you and is also a problem).
either way I’d be strongly reconsidering tying yourself to this man for life via a child. It’s a huge red flag

EmotionalSupportPotato · 26/11/2024 20:00

Don't have a baby with this man. He has a drink problem

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My Dad was a drinker who beat the shit out of me a good few times because he was mad at my mum for 'nagging him' and somehow that was my fault. (I'm talking broken bones)

She would always say 'he wasn't always like this, he used to just like a few in the evenings'

That's the reality of the situation and I'm sorry if that's harsh but I have to live with a lifetime of childhood trauma because my mum didn't walk away when he showed her his priority was the drink over us.

TwinklyAmberOrca · 26/11/2024 20:04

If he isn't willing to stop drinking then he clearly doesn't want a baby!

Having kids means sacrifices and he is making it very clear he isn't willing to make those sacrifices.

Yes it could he many things but cutting out alcohol will at least eliminate his sperm being the issue.

Sounds like he has quite a drink problem as that's a huge amount of alcohol. Is he overweight??

Skyrainlight · 26/11/2024 20:06

Foxblue · 26/11/2024 19:29

I'm so sorry for your losses. But please, please stop and think about if its fair to have a baby with a man who obviously has a drinking problem. I know you really want a baby. But this isn't fair to a child, the big red flag is waving in your face here - some women never get a flag beforehand and end up kicking themselves over who they chose to have children with, and have to watch their children's lives be impacted by a crappy father - this red flag is a gift to you, to make sure you don't have children with someone who puts alcohol over fatherhood, over you, over a baby.

Completely agree with this!

CuriouslyMinded · 26/11/2024 20:06

Also to add: our DD is now nearly two and DP drinks far less. He will probably always like a glass of wine with dinner and a couple of beers on a Saturday night, but he is happy and fulfilled (and yes, exhausted because toddlers are hard work! Haha!) but he has a child to look after and that was a huge driver in his reduced intake.
He is a good dad - kind and gentle and endlessly patient. If your DP has similar qualities, or other qualities that made you want to have a child with him, his enjoyment of a few drinks is not necessarily something to write him off over.
Some posters on here tend to think in extremes and are sometimes right to do so, but not always.

mumda · 26/11/2024 20:06

Jackie8787 · 26/11/2024 19:50

It changes and he has cut down slightly over the last few months, but average 4-5 beers. Sometimes it’s just 1 or 2, sometimes a glass or 2 of wine, sometimes a bottle.
It’s not really the amount that bothers me, it’s just the need to have some, to the point he can’t try cutting it out completely for a few months to see if it makes a difference.

Read that back and ask yourself how life would be if you had a baby with this man.

Vettrianofan · 26/11/2024 20:07

He loves drink. That's it.

NoKnit · 26/11/2024 20:07

I'm sorry for your losses OP. My husband drinks a fair bit too in fairness I used to as well. He easily consumes 2 bottles of wine and 6 beers a week. Yes it bothers me.

However I will say he is a fantastic Dad and always steps in when needed. I'm sure yours will be too. Don't let the mumsnet mob convince you he is going to be a deadbeat I'm sure he isn't.

What I also want to point out is that since you have been pregnant three times in the last year I don't really see a problem with his sperm so go a bit easy on him as doesn't seem to make a difference. I'm no expert but looks like it's quite easy for you to get pregnant.

The miscarriages suck I have no words that can comfort but I've been there. Fortunately I went on to have a family and I hope you will too. Certainly too early t9 write it all off

Doggymummar · 26/11/2024 20:08

My ex had drunken sperm. They swam in circles and the medical term was ' bathed in alcohol'. We were also not allowed to adopt due to his drinking and smoking. Obvs I left him.

Bluelane · 26/11/2024 20:08

I’m far from teetotal - I enjoy a social drink, but drinking so often is, in my view, a problem, particularly if he seems incapable of even reducing his intake while you are trying to conceive. It just tells you that he values having a drink over building a family with you. I wouldn’t make any snap decisions, but I’d start to think very carefully about whether this is someone you want to have children with.

cestlavielife · 26/11/2024 20:09

Have a baby with someone else.

Hedgehogcarer · 26/11/2024 20:11

You are setting yourself up for a life with a drinker. You will end up struggling to raise a child as his priorities will always be the drink. He will not change. You are worth more than that. My advice would be to get out now. I’m speaking from experience.

Skyrainlight · 26/11/2024 20:13

NoKnit · 26/11/2024 20:07

I'm sorry for your losses OP. My husband drinks a fair bit too in fairness I used to as well. He easily consumes 2 bottles of wine and 6 beers a week. Yes it bothers me.

However I will say he is a fantastic Dad and always steps in when needed. I'm sure yours will be too. Don't let the mumsnet mob convince you he is going to be a deadbeat I'm sure he isn't.

What I also want to point out is that since you have been pregnant three times in the last year I don't really see a problem with his sperm so go a bit easy on him as doesn't seem to make a difference. I'm no expert but looks like it's quite easy for you to get pregnant.

The miscarriages suck I have no words that can comfort but I've been there. Fortunately I went on to have a family and I hope you will too. Certainly too early t9 write it all off

"Don't let the mumsnet mob convince you he is going to be a deadbeat I'm sure he isn't."

Completely ridiculous, how can you possibly be sure of anything since you have never met the man? Newsflash, he is not a carbon copy of your husband, you have no idea what he is like.

RaspberryBeretxx · 26/11/2024 20:16

I agree with all the posts about him potentially being an alcoholic and he should be able to give up. However I had 3 mc and then took 150 mg a day from a positive pregnancy test with my 4th pregnancy in my late30s / early 40s and that seemed to make all the difference and dd is now 3. I’ll never know for sure if that did work but it’s worth a go if you do want to continue.

Ottersmith · 26/11/2024 20:17

Tell him your going to the sperm bank then.
You can get your fertility checked on the NHS by the way.

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