What do you think of Australia's vaccine policy?

[rampy]

I'm born and bred Aussie. We live in WA and kids here can't go to kindy or school
without having been vaccinated. I have a couple of British friends who were so offended that they needed to vaccinate their kids they home schooled because 'well we'll just go back to the uk' but they've stayed and now need to get their kids vaccinated because they have no friends their own age and can't go to school without vaccines.

You can't apply for child related benefits if your kid isn't vaccinated either here.

Having seen NZ have just declared a whooping cough epidemic Id say I agree with WA stance I'm honest!

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I’m truly stunned at the level of ignorance on this thread.

Education is the closest thing we have to a silver bullet for society’s problems but it clearly isn’t working for everyone.

Me and family from generations past have not taken the vaccines and all are healthy, no cancer, no autoimmune diseases, no strokes, All had chicken pox, one measles, one mumps, travelled all over, some caught covid with symptoms like a short cold..... so, don't be jealous if you have pumped yourself full of vaccines but are doing the same or worse.

I mixed with loads of people during the pandemic and haven't caught covid but if I did I never exhibited any symptoms.

If it makes you happy to get 50+ jabs then you do you. Why would me and mine start?

Why do people get so angry when they have vaccined themselves up to the hilt. They should be happy for themselves that they have pumped themselves full of everything that is available for them to take. Me and mine are healthy and happy without them.

Whoosh

I so agree. My great aunt Beryl never had a vaccine ever.

I vividly remember how proud she was when she told me that, as she took off the calipers that she’d had to wear ever since her childhood polio.

And she always spoke so fondly of my great great granny who’d also never gone near those nasty vaccines and had put up a good old fight against her smallpox before her organs shut down and she was taken away in a big bag by men wearing masks, for immediate cremation.

Happy days.

If you're the kind of selfish idiot that mixed with people during the pandemic before vaccination was widely available therefore increasing the risks for everyone, then it doesn't surprise me that you're also the kind of selfish person who won't consider herd immunity or the social benefits of mass vaccination.

You'll probably get a nasty dose of covid when you're older and end up dying after a brief spell on a ventilator. It's not you I will feel sorry for though. It's the clinically vulnerable who can't have the vaccine that have to suffer because of fools that consider having a vaccine to be pumping themselves full of something . What utterly ridiculous hyperbole.

Oh and I know someone just like you. He caught covid and felt very sorry for himself. However it was nothing more than a bad cold as he was a healthy young man. He passed it onto his parents who were only one vaccine in. Sadly his mother was clinically vulnerable and she caught it off him, spent a month in hospital and has never fully recovered her health. All because an ignorant egotistical idiot thought he knew more than medical professionals.

I had a friend whom I cut contact with because I realised that he was a narcissist (for other reasons than this issue but I do think that conspiracy theorists tend to have personality disorders). He spent about 2 years of the pandemic swanning around London, convinced that he didn’t need to get vaccinated because his superior immune system had already figured out how to avoid Covid. Then, he ended up catching Covid and was in bed for 3 weeks over Christmas. He was really ill. I didn’t have a whole lot of sympathy tbh because of his prior arrogance.

I wonder if all the antivaxxers on this thread would refuse to go to hospital if they developed life-threatening diseases. It’s laughable that they think people disagree with their bizarre belief system because we’re ‘jealous’ but tbh that kind of childlike way of thinking is indeed symptomatic of someone who never grew up emotionally.

And to the ‘no such thing as society’ person - who are you? Margaret Thatcher?!

I mixed with a lot of people during the pandemic. (Pre COVID vaccinations)
A lot of people did

It was called going to work

The rules made no sense. I could work with someone all day. Sit next to them, chat with them and then at 5pm we had to spring apart because we might spread Covid.

Not everyone had the luxury to isolate themselves

Also I think we have to look at DNA to see our risk for Covid

Exh (diabetic, stage 4 cancer), his mother 95 and in a care home with dementia both
caught Covid and it was a tickly cough for one day and then they felt better

Dd, DS and I all caught Covid and it goes as one of the most nasty illnesses we have ever had

There are 2 countries, (I have a very distant relationship with one of these countries) and I noticed how friends from these countries lost the most family members to this disease.
One of DS’s friends has caught Covid multiple times and is very very ill each time despite taking every single vaccination.

If you're medically trained I'm the Pope.

And there's no way those grandparents weren't vaccinated.

Read up on the race for polio vaccine and then come back and talk about "big pharma"

Not really the point of this thread but didn’t you have to sit 2 ft apart? Covid rules were a balance between efficacy and compliance. By stopping ‘non-essential’ mixing, the idea was to limit contact - either by physical separation (wfh, more distance between desks etc) or by temporal - by ‘springing apart at 5’ you were lessening the time spent together. On an individual basis an hour here or there wouldn’t make much difference, but at a population level level, that’s millions fewer hours spent in proximity. Added to that socialising leads to lowering of boundaries through being more relaxed and outside the formality of work, and there’s an increased likelihood of risky behaviour like getting too close, physical contact etc.

Perhaps the rules should have been different for those who worked together, to allow social mixing, but that muddies the waters and would be hard to enforce - how could anyone possibly verify you were colleagues without significant resource that was already overstretched? Much simpler to have a blanket rule.

Keeping certain jobs functioning was essential, and society should be very grateful to people like you who put themselves at increased risk to do them.

Oh, dear - one of those people who is incapable of comprehending how protection from vaccination actually works and who therefore witters on as though it is all about the individual, and then spews little anecdotes about generations of family who apparently died of nothing. Maybe great, great, great grandma is still alive and festering in her armchair at home with the rest of them. They’ll all be fine, of course, because despite being surrounded by all sorts of carcinogens, hormone disrupters and other nasty things in their environment, only vaccination could possibly be the thing that does them no good. And those vaccinated individuals who also don’t have autoimmune disorders, cancers, strokes, etc - well, obviously they just got lucky, despite their foolish choice to get vaccinated.

why have you made up these bizarre stories?
Your aunt told you proudly she'd never had a vaccine as she took off her calipers?
At least make it semi believeable

"You'll probably get a nasty dose of covid when you're older and end up dying after a brief spell on a ventilator."
yeah, that'll show her won't it ( rubs hands in glee)

What a nasty ( and very unlikely) thing to wish upon someone

You might want to have another go.....

sorry, I don't understand.

It’s satire.

These threads are an excellent reminder that almost half the population are of below average intelligence.

ok, pretty unwarranted nasty reply
It's hard to tell on here as people have been known to post such shite in the hope people will believe them.
Can I ask what has made you so un pleasant so soon in the day?

@Phonomnomnom

Satire can be hard to understand for autistic people. This has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. But poêle like you make comments like that and make us feel shit. Thanks

don't worry about it. That wasn't satire that she wrote.
She obviously thought it was though which is quite amusing.

Anti vax nonsense kills people, quite often children.

You can keep your faux outrage at being called out. #bekind does not trump the need for clear and evidence-based communication around this matter.

The source of information is key - reminding people that many posters don’t have the education or intelligence required to be legitimate sources is an important part of the discussion.

There is nothing unpleasant about pointing this out.

I’m also autistic and I got it. Guess everyone is different.

I didn’t write it, but interpreted it as satire, because it was tinged with humorous undertones of hyperbole.