What do you think of Australia's vaccine policy?

[rampy]

I'm born and bred Aussie. We live in WA and kids here can't go to kindy or school
without having been vaccinated. I have a couple of British friends who were so offended that they needed to vaccinate their kids they home schooled because 'well we'll just go back to the uk' but they've stayed and now need to get their kids vaccinated because they have no friends their own age and can't go to school without vaccines.

You can't apply for child related benefits if your kid isn't vaccinated either here.

Having seen NZ have just declared a whooping cough epidemic Id say I agree with WA stance I'm honest!

Also, I’d like to see how long their moral outrage holds when it’s life-saving cancer treatment that has been researched using the same foetal-derived tissues.

Don't be silly.

sorry, what was silly about it?

right, you seem to have acknowledged the why for people who have moral or religious objections.
As for the above, yes it would be interesting but is not what we are discussing.
It's the same as the famous vegan on a desert island question.
An immediate threat to life often involves abandoning moral or religious standards which would be unthinkable at other times so not relevant to a preventative medicine

I think children of antivaxxers need all the help they can get to be more educated than their parents, and would worry they are vulnerable to neglect in other ways, through lack of other necessary medical care and exposure to any other weird things those people usually believe in, like raw milk etc. So on balance I think those children should be able to access childcare and school so there’s someone looking out for them. But I would very much hope that the majority of kids around them are vaccinated and not immunosuppressed.

So many different points I can’t make out what your message is

opposed to toasters I'm LMAO, reliving that scene with Mr Carson from Downton Abbey when he discovers Mrs Hughes has been using a toaster. 😁😂😁😂

@annanbmt No. A few vaccines are grown in cell lines that were originally derived from lung cells from two foetuses legally aborted in the sixties. They are immortalized cells so replicate indefinitely which is why they can be used in vaccine manufacture and they don’t end up in the final product that is injected. They’re not harvesting foetuses to chop up and inject into people via vaccines 🙄 Stop spreading misinformation and focus on your education, sounds like you need some lessons in critically evaluating the literature.

obviously I was wrong then and some people do object to the use of toasters 😁

we've gone through this and the fact the harvest was historical would not make a difference to the people who object morally or religiously

Why do people feel the “life” of a clump of foetal cells from 6 decades ago is more important than the very real lives and health of their own living children? Even if I disagreed with abortion I don’t want my kids to get sick or die, so I am very happy to give them something safe that will prevent that from happening.

You are absolutely missing the point.
people with a strong moral objection will not want to take a substance which was only achieved by using aborted tissue.
Personally I don't have those moral objections but I am able to see the viewpoints of others who do even if I don't agree.

I can understand it up to a point, I'm a pro life (except in dire circumstances where life is threatened) Christian but if I had a child who was unable to be vaccinated because of their own health issues, may be were being treated for cancer them I would prioritise them first 100%.

As I myself am CEV to flu, I took the flu jab. An aborted baby isn't my top priority - I and my household always come first . As @AgathaMystery mentioned Matthew 18, love for self and neighbour are wholly in accordance with Christian values and I expect Jesus would say they, (along with loving God) fulfil all other commandments.

Although I don't object to tried and tested vaccines, I think 'forcing' people to have things injected into their bodies is setting a very dangerous precedent.
Just saying 🙈

I disagree, no thanks to more government control.
We can see the state the nhs is in, but hey ho vaccines are mandatory? kindly shove off.

Frighteningly, people will be along to say that nobody is ever forced to have any substance injected into them: you will just be excluded from education, leisure, employment, public transport and travel if you don't.
But that's ok ( as we learnt during covid)

Many people who have had their children vaccinated are frightened/angry of the unvaccinated. Why is this? Why bother taking them if you think they are not fit for purpose. None of my children have been vaccinated and they are grown adults now. Most of my family aren't vaccinated and had a few illnesses but their immune system has dealt with it. I have researched all childhood vaccines including the recent C jab. You couldn't pay me one million pounds to take any of them. In the UK vaccines are not mandated and I believe it would be illegal for schools to deny entry based on a child's vaccination status but I would need to look into it.

What vaccinations are included in this though? If it's the traditional style vaccines that have gone through stringent testing for many years, then I have no problem! However, if it is the MRNA style vaccines, which have not been tested in the general population, and particularly in children, then no, it would have to be homeschooling for me!

'Extra things........'?

I'm sure they did. Wasn't it a polio drive that was used to find Bin Laden? Who knows why Israel agreed to this one? I doubt it was because they care so much for Palestinian children that they're just going to bomb next week.

This!!!!

I agree with it. There's a lot of anti-vax bullshit out there promoted mainly by grifters and criminals like Donald Trump.

If you want to access public services, get the jab. I like it.

I work in healthcare and most clinical staff have to have certain jobs to work. No jab, no job.

I am always amazed that the same anti- vaccs adults are more than happy to take an untested fat jab. Vanity takes precedence eh?

you have a frightening attitude

Not heard of this in the uk.....