To ask if people today don’t agree with ivf?!

[Yaerry]

or am I just naive? Watched the new documentary about Jean Purdy and I’m surprised there was so much push back at the time. It’s made me wonder if one day surrogacy will be more accepted? I thought ivf was just a standard thing now that wasn’t controversial.

I don’t think my mum agreed with IVF but I am not sure if she was opposed to it being funded on the NHS or to the idea in principle. It wouldn’t have been to do with leftover embryos. She was also opposed to organ transplantation.

IVF is fine- although I know some anti choice---- pro life people who are opposed.

Surrogacy is a completely different thing- and I will never be able to support it.

I don't think saying IVF isn't natural because it goes against population control is fair. The rise in infertility numbers shows how the chemicals and surroundings we are in affect human fertility.
I don't think nearly as many of those suffering with infertility now would have been the same back in the day.

My ethical issues with IVF are around the fact that some people working in the industry have made a fortune from other people's misery.
And yet they are treated like heros.

I think they should be used for various scientific tests

Controversial, but I think if theres people not being able to get or get others pregnant. We should'nt force this either with IVF or surrogacy.

Having a baby is not a right.

The same way I believe people who have many disabled children (knowing theirs a high possibility of issues) are wrong.

I’m against IVF because I believe that humans have the right to be made the human way.

I do wonder if the increase in youngsters with SEN could be in part due to the rise in various fertility treatments. We just don't know what longer term effects could be.

Yes, that’s true.

I think ivf is a wonderful thing but I'm
bit sure it should be funded by the NHS. I’m also not entirely sure that encouraging woman to part with their eggs to get cheaper treatment is entirely ethical.

Not dying of heart failure isn’t a right either but organ donation doesn’t seem to get the flack fertility treatment does.

I don’t agree with the buying or selling of someone’s body or its parts.

I have no issues with IVF when the mother's egg is used. I have serious concerns about the use of donor eggs. There are commercial companies who sell the idea of donating eggs as being an easy way to make some quick money. They do not give adequate information on the risks to the donor. I read an article on a woman who nearly died from Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome (OHSS)
and the company she was selling the eggs to were useless. There is also next to no research on long-term effects of egg donation, something the companies gloss over by stating there is no evidence of long-term effects.

Interesting article here - www.statnews.com/2017/01/28/egg-donors-risks/

Is it not humans creating IVF then? Was always under the impression my fertility doctor was a human but huh I must have been wrong

Kudos nothing.

The baby has no option in this shitshow.

Kudos indeed to the women who deliberately choose to engage in a process which rips a newborn away from the only person it knows. You wouldn’t do that to a puppy.

Is it fair to say they're profiting from human misery? They're profiting as much from alleviating misery and helping create families, surely? I'd say profiting purely from human misery would be someone who manufactures gallows, or writes scripts for Keith Lemon.

That said, I am opposed to private healthcare (and education, and transport) personally. The two purposes - maximising profits and providing the best service - always end up being in conflict, and there's only ever one winner.

A baby is not essential for life. Organ donation is.

I've never been in favour of it. I was 18 when the first "test tube baby" was born. The then Pope and I were (surprisingly) in agreement. My view has, if anything become more opposed, not sure what the current Pope thinks.

I wouldn't equate IVF with surrogacy at all. The issues with IVF is the amount of times women go through it without success. Then those with more financial resources can do it more times but sometimes it's exploitative as it's so unlikely to succeed.
With surrogacy we are talking about involving vulnerable women strangers in someone's pregnancy whereby there's a massive balance of power. I find it very unethical.

@nosmartphone

Firstly - every IVF child I know is perfectly fine, lots even ahead of their class. Zero issues mentally or physically.

Secondly - your argument that the egg and sperm aren't meant to go together doesn't quite sit correctly. In IVF cases where no donor is used it quite literally is the mothers egg and fathers sperm going together and creating an embryo. They are just facilitated to make it happen. So it's not incompatible otherwise the embryo would be created

Having a baby is not a right

Again....

Before we even start discussing the rights and wrongs of ivf or surrogacy we need to address forced sterilisation or compulsory contraception for the many thousands of shit parents already out there.

You cannot say 'it's not an automatic right' then let every unfit person have a child. If it's not an automatic right then we should be able to 'control' who has babies, or at the very least stop the shit ones from producing.

What rights are IVF babies not born with??

I have no issue with IVF, but am uncomfortable with anonymous or untraceable gamete donation because I think children have a need to know where they come from.
Surrogacy is abhorrent and the buying and selling of babies should be banned.

I haven't met a genuine pro-lifer ( as in life begins at conception, No exceptions) that are pro ivf.
Most pro choicers are pro ivf

I'm very much pro choice. I don't support IVF.