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To find this so cringeworthy?

570 replies

Bpuss · 25/11/2024 07:29

(I realise using the word cringeworthy is a bit cringeworthy in itself, but here we are...)

Literally posting this so I don't end up telling him what I'm thinking!

I've been seeing a guy off and on for a year and he's a lovely person, but keeps coming out with things that just make me die a little inside.

The latest one is he went to the cinema with his friends last night to see Wicked.
He has this habit of messaging me after he's seen a film to let me know how he found it and the message last night read "It had greatest showman vibes, and the hallmarks of a classic". I almost, almost... replied with a bunch of laughy faces and told him to stop talking like a dick but I thought I should try and be kind so I just said something about being glad he likes it.

But I've never heard anyone in real life use the phrase "hallmarks of a classic" to describe a film, let alone something like Wicked?!

He also uses the word belly for his stomach...

I like him, but omg I cringe so hard sometimes at his choice of words!

OP posts:
TheMamaLife · 28/11/2024 02:04

cardibach · 28/11/2024 00:05

But what on earth do you think it says about them?

Emmm that we have different taste? Man or woman being overly excited by a musical, isn’t for me.

really, why is that hard for you to understand?

stop trying to force me to be attracted to something I’m not, or bullying me because I’m not attracted to men who are as keen as the guy in the OPs post on musicals.

You can’t force attraction because it’s politically correct.

TofuTart · 28/11/2024 02:26

TheMamaLife · 28/11/2024 01:56

No I didn’t say that they might be gay. I said I don’t want to date a guy who watches musicals.

if I was gay, I wouldn’t want to date a woman who watches musicals.

everyone is reading way too much into this.

So what's your sexuality got to do with anything then?
Why not just say you don't like musicals and don't want to date anyone who likes them either 😕

CorbyTrouserPress · 28/11/2024 05:58

TheMamaLife · 28/11/2024 02:04

Emmm that we have different taste? Man or woman being overly excited by a musical, isn’t for me.

really, why is that hard for you to understand?

stop trying to force me to be attracted to something I’m not, or bullying me because I’m not attracted to men who are as keen as the guy in the OPs post on musicals.

You can’t force attraction because it’s politically correct.

this is not ‘bullying’

pilates · 28/11/2024 06:32

@TheMamaLife please stop with the bullying. No one is bullying they are questioning you - a big difference!

TheMamaLife · 28/11/2024 09:56

TofuTart · 28/11/2024 02:26

So what's your sexuality got to do with anything then?
Why not just say you don't like musicals and don't want to date anyone who likes them either 😕

I was accused of calling men who like musicals gay. I clarified that I mentioned men because we are talking about the context of cringey stuff in dating.

Stop trying to insinuate in a bigot.

TheMamaLife · 28/11/2024 09:59

pilates · 28/11/2024 06:32

@TheMamaLife please stop with the bullying. No one is bullying they are questioning you - a big difference!

I’ve answered the question. But it seems people are bent on trying to make out I’m a homophobe or something.

everyone, I find men who overly enjoy musicals off putting in a romantic partner. That’s just me. Sorry I don’t have the same preferences as you in the dating department.

what’s going to shut you lot up?? If I’m forced to date someone I’m not attracted to??

F off and get on with your lives.

pilates · 28/11/2024 10:39

You sound angry @TheMamaLife
It’s a forum not everyone is going to agree with you so don’t understand your last sentence. Anyway have a good day.

cardibach · 28/11/2024 11:46

TheMamaLife · 28/11/2024 02:04

Emmm that we have different taste? Man or woman being overly excited by a musical, isn’t for me.

really, why is that hard for you to understand?

stop trying to force me to be attracted to something I’m not, or bullying me because I’m not attracted to men who are as keen as the guy in the OPs post on musicals.

You can’t force attraction because it’s politically correct.

I just find it very confusing that someone having a different taste in something would render them totally unattractive.
Also - ‘overly enthusiastic’? What’s that and how does one show it while sitting in a cinema?
Nobody is trying to force you to be attracted, just wondering on what basis going to a film makes someone unattractive. I’m also unsure why it would be politically correct to find someone attractive because they went to a film.
It’s all very weird.

Also, as others have said nobody is bullying you.

GoldsolesLugs · 28/11/2024 11:46

TheMamaLife · 27/11/2024 22:07

Let’s say I can be great friends with the guy but I wouldn’t date him. That’s just me. We all have preferences.

For all the people asking me this, I suppose all your first dates are totally blind and you don’t look for any characteristics or qualities.. your bedroom is a free for all, right? Totally equal ops.

People are allowed to have different dating preferences to you. I won’t be bullied for not having the exact same taste as you.

Is it because you find it juvenile or because you think it's a unmasculine? Sorry that you feel bullied, that's not my intention.

TriesNotToBeCynical · 28/11/2024 12:40

@TheMamaLife
As a matter of interest, how do you feel about men who would rather go to Disneyland, in a party exclusively of adults, than spend a weekend remanded in custody?

TheMamaLife · 28/11/2024 17:32

I’m done with this thread.

You’re all asking or insinuating stupid and unfair things. I’ve said that I find a man who is overly enthusiastic about Wicked “cringey” in the context of a relationship. Thats it. What’s the big deal?? You wouldn’t be ripping into me if this was real life but somehow you all feel quite powerful basing away at a keyboard, and/ or superior to me because your view of a male partner in a relationship may be a little less traditionally than mine. I didn’t bring up masculinity, you lot did. I said that theatre is not my cup of tea (and I’ve seen lots of west end and broadway productions) in the same way that golf isn’t - a man more excited by either is unappealing to me personally. Not judging anyone’s else’s preferences or questioning them. You’re all free to choose what type of partner you want in your life without judgement. Try to get to grips with the notion that I am too.

TheMamaLife · 28/11/2024 17:33

TriesNotToBeCynical · 28/11/2024 12:40

@TheMamaLife
As a matter of interest, how do you feel about men who would rather go to Disneyland, in a party exclusively of adults, than spend a weekend remanded in custody?

What does this even have to do with anything?? 🙄

Discuss amongst yourselves. I give no shits.

cardibach · 28/11/2024 17:40

TheMamaLife · 28/11/2024 17:32

I’m done with this thread.

You’re all asking or insinuating stupid and unfair things. I’ve said that I find a man who is overly enthusiastic about Wicked “cringey” in the context of a relationship. Thats it. What’s the big deal?? You wouldn’t be ripping into me if this was real life but somehow you all feel quite powerful basing away at a keyboard, and/ or superior to me because your view of a male partner in a relationship may be a little less traditionally than mine. I didn’t bring up masculinity, you lot did. I said that theatre is not my cup of tea (and I’ve seen lots of west end and broadway productions) in the same way that golf isn’t - a man more excited by either is unappealing to me personally. Not judging anyone’s else’s preferences or questioning them. You’re all free to choose what type of partner you want in your life without judgement. Try to get to grips with the notion that I am too.

Nobody is ‘ripping into you’.
not liking theatre is obviously fine. It’s just a bit weird to write someone off as a partner because they watch a film you don’t fancy and you categorise their response as ‘overly enthusiastic’. Whatever that looks like.

PaperbackWrighter · 29/11/2024 08:44

A deal breaker? Wow.

MayaPinion · 29/11/2024 08:50

TheMamaLife · 28/11/2024 17:32

I’m done with this thread.

You’re all asking or insinuating stupid and unfair things. I’ve said that I find a man who is overly enthusiastic about Wicked “cringey” in the context of a relationship. Thats it. What’s the big deal?? You wouldn’t be ripping into me if this was real life but somehow you all feel quite powerful basing away at a keyboard, and/ or superior to me because your view of a male partner in a relationship may be a little less traditionally than mine. I didn’t bring up masculinity, you lot did. I said that theatre is not my cup of tea (and I’ve seen lots of west end and broadway productions) in the same way that golf isn’t - a man more excited by either is unappealing to me personally. Not judging anyone’s else’s preferences or questioning them. You’re all free to choose what type of partner you want in your life without judgement. Try to get to grips with the notion that I am too.

But in your first post you are literally judging him - mocking him, even. If you don’t want date him don’t date him. You don’t need our permission.

GoldsolesLugs · 29/11/2024 11:06

TheMamaLife · 28/11/2024 17:32

I’m done with this thread.

You’re all asking or insinuating stupid and unfair things. I’ve said that I find a man who is overly enthusiastic about Wicked “cringey” in the context of a relationship. Thats it. What’s the big deal?? You wouldn’t be ripping into me if this was real life but somehow you all feel quite powerful basing away at a keyboard, and/ or superior to me because your view of a male partner in a relationship may be a little less traditionally than mine. I didn’t bring up masculinity, you lot did. I said that theatre is not my cup of tea (and I’ve seen lots of west end and broadway productions) in the same way that golf isn’t - a man more excited by either is unappealing to me personally. Not judging anyone’s else’s preferences or questioning them. You’re all free to choose what type of partner you want in your life without judgement. Try to get to grips with the notion that I am too.

It's cos you won't come out and say why you don't like musical-loving men. I would guess that you think it's non-masculine to like musicals ("your view of a male partner in a relationship may be a little less traditionally than mine"). What does "traditional" mean here? Then you say "I didn’t bring up masculinity, you lot did". If you just came out and said that you like to date men who are into traditionally masculine things (which musicals aren't) then I don't think you'd get anywhere near as many responses.

TofuTart · 29/11/2024 11:38

@TheMamaLife
You’re all asking or insinuating stupid and unfair things. I’ve said that I find a man who is overly enthusiastic about Wicked “cringey” in the context of a relationship. Thats it. What’s the big deal??

Sorry, but no you didn't. You're the one who brought sexuality into it, that you're straight so wouldn't fancy a man who enjoyed watching a musical. Insinuating yourself that it's gay for a man to watch one or something.
That's why you're getting so many questions, as people are like "huh, wait, what?!" lol

elledee412 · 30/11/2024 20:30

DustyLee123 · 25/11/2024 07:34

I don’t know any male who wants to see Wicked.

My 60 year old dad, as well as my brother and my sister’s boyfriend (both 30) were happy to go yesterday. My husband (35) would’ve come as well if he didn’t have to work - he’s already seen the stage show. I’d say the (100% full) theater was a pretty even split.

Maybe there’s a cultural difference (I’m American) but it doesn’t really seem to be a “women’s movie”.

TheMamaLife · 08/12/2024 15:31

MayaPinion · 29/11/2024 08:50

But in your first post you are literally judging him - mocking him, even. If you don’t want date him don’t date him. You don’t need our permission.

you understand how threads work right?? The OP was seeking the community’s opinion / view on something and I shared mine. Whether you agree or not has nothing to do with anything. Absolutely no one is seeking your permission.

TheMamaLife · 08/12/2024 15:36

GoldsolesLugs · 29/11/2024 11:06

It's cos you won't come out and say why you don't like musical-loving men. I would guess that you think it's non-masculine to like musicals ("your view of a male partner in a relationship may be a little less traditionally than mine"). What does "traditional" mean here? Then you say "I didn’t bring up masculinity, you lot did". If you just came out and said that you like to date men who are into traditionally masculine things (which musicals aren't) then I don't think you'd get anywhere near as many responses.

So what if that is what I thought? You don’t have a right to force your opinion / taste in a partner on me. There’s name for situations where a woman is forced to have a relationship she doesn’t consent to.

You’re not letting this go. Please stop forcing your preference on me. I’ve not done that here with my preference.

You think you’re being so open and woke, but you realise you’re actually being oppressive, whereas my “each to their own” mentality is more woke then you probably can comprehend.

TheMamaLife · 08/12/2024 15:40

GoldsolesLugs · 29/11/2024 11:06

It's cos you won't come out and say why you don't like musical-loving men. I would guess that you think it's non-masculine to like musicals ("your view of a male partner in a relationship may be a little less traditionally than mine"). What does "traditional" mean here? Then you say "I didn’t bring up masculinity, you lot did". If you just came out and said that you like to date men who are into traditionally masculine things (which musicals aren't) then I don't think you'd get anywhere near as many responses.

And for the record, I’ve not said it’s “non-masculine” not have I alluded to that as I’ve said I’m not keen on girlfriends either who are into musicals.

Please fuck off.. I’m allowed to not be into musicals.

You might like musicals - bully for you! I don’t. Why is that a problem for you?? Why can’t you get on with your life?? Why do you feel you have to force your preferences / taste on people who don’t agree with you? Stop being a musical-nazi!

ThisAquaCrow · 08/12/2024 15:41

TheMamaLife · 08/12/2024 15:36

So what if that is what I thought? You don’t have a right to force your opinion / taste in a partner on me. There’s name for situations where a woman is forced to have a relationship she doesn’t consent to.

You’re not letting this go. Please stop forcing your preference on me. I’ve not done that here with my preference.

You think you’re being so open and woke, but you realise you’re actually being oppressive, whereas my “each to their own” mentality is more woke then you probably can comprehend.

Not letting it go? Says somebody who comes back to a dead thread 9 days later 😂

TheMamaLife · 08/12/2024 15:50

TofuTart · 29/11/2024 11:38

@TheMamaLife
You’re all asking or insinuating stupid and unfair things. I’ve said that I find a man who is overly enthusiastic about Wicked “cringey” in the context of a relationship. Thats it. What’s the big deal??

Sorry, but no you didn't. You're the one who brought sexuality into it, that you're straight so wouldn't fancy a man who enjoyed watching a musical. Insinuating yourself that it's gay for a man to watch one or something.
That's why you're getting so many questions, as people are like "huh, wait, what?!" lol

I didn’t bring sexuality into it.. OP did because it’s a thread about something “cringey” in a relationship.

And I don’t know any straight men who choose to watch musicals, with other straight men, with no women/ children around. I’ve not done an in depth survey, but yeah, let’s not be politically correct to the point that we are just being blind, - it’s common knowledge that gay men are more fond of musicals than straight..

Anyway, I’ve told my gay 22 year old nephew, and non-binary 18 year old niece-phew (that’s how they want me to refer to them) about this thread and the reactions I’m getting, and they both agree that agree that most of you are all just straight white -apologists who are desperate to appear woke, but in reality are oppressive with both eyes shut right - like the equivalent to “green-washing” corporations. This is what they say happens when old farts try to be woke.

TheMamaLife · 08/12/2024 15:51

ThisAquaCrow · 08/12/2024 15:41

Not letting it go? Says somebody who comes back to a dead thread 9 days later 😂

i had a bit of time and thought I’d look at my notifications.. is that okay??

and if you’ve let go, does this mean you’re okay with my thinking differently to you now??

TheMamaLife · 08/12/2024 15:55

Fuck me.. I came to mums net for tips on breast feeding and thought I’d stay for the general chit chat… didn’t know that it’s actually dominated by such nasty people who are just lurking about waiting to pounce on people. It’s so fucking toxic.