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To find this so cringeworthy?

570 replies

Bpuss · 25/11/2024 07:29

(I realise using the word cringeworthy is a bit cringeworthy in itself, but here we are...)

Literally posting this so I don't end up telling him what I'm thinking!

I've been seeing a guy off and on for a year and he's a lovely person, but keeps coming out with things that just make me die a little inside.

The latest one is he went to the cinema with his friends last night to see Wicked.
He has this habit of messaging me after he's seen a film to let me know how he found it and the message last night read "It had greatest showman vibes, and the hallmarks of a classic". I almost, almost... replied with a bunch of laughy faces and told him to stop talking like a dick but I thought I should try and be kind so I just said something about being glad he likes it.

But I've never heard anyone in real life use the phrase "hallmarks of a classic" to describe a film, let alone something like Wicked?!

He also uses the word belly for his stomach...

I like him, but omg I cringe so hard sometimes at his choice of words!

OP posts:
Rhaenys · 26/11/2024 21:05

Honestly, I’ve noticed quite a few men talking/raving about Wicked in an attempt to reel women in.

BarkLife · 26/11/2024 21:15

Over-explaining is my number one ick. My cousin does it on Insta about Serious Political Issues and I have to take deep breaths to avoid cringing myself into next week. It just makes people sound thick.

I'd be dumping this guy for saying, 'hallmarks of a classic', OP, because he thinks he's a film aficionado (he's not).

CharlotteLucas3 · 26/11/2024 21:40

Using "Hallmarks of a classic" means he has an expansive vocabulary?!!

CharlotteLucas3 · 26/11/2024 21:41

That sounds like I'm saying he does! No he does not!!

Dogsbreath7 · 26/11/2024 21:44

You said you ‘liked him’. Think on that. As well as you finding him embarrassing.

cardibach · 26/11/2024 22:08

RavenhairedRachel · 26/11/2024 20:23

I really don't see the issue with his choice of words .Just his choice of film that I find a bit strange

Why do you find it strange?

whathaveiforgotten · 26/11/2024 22:13

@Oreyt

How old is he? My husband wouldn't even see it if our girls 12 and 14 begged him.

I would be embarrassed to admit my partner wouldn't see a film his daughters begged him to watch with them to be honest. It doesn't make him masculine, it just makes him a selfish prick 🤷🏻‍♀️

Teenagehorrorbag · 26/11/2024 23:00

Haven't read the full thread, but right from the start I thought - oh he's autistic. Just the sort of words my lovely DS might use.

Read your comments OP - I see you are on the spectrum and then later you're wondering if he is. Yes, yes, yes!!!!

I hope you work things out but if he gives you the ick, then you need to move on...... Shame, but unavoidable.

CyclingMumKent · 26/11/2024 23:06

He is on the spectrum.

overthinker82 · 26/11/2024 23:41

Mum of boys here… completely agree!

Who cares on the choice of words, as long as they’re not offensive / derogatory what does it matter?

WillVioletsDad · 27/11/2024 00:05

DustyLee123 · 25/11/2024 07:34

I don’t know any male who wants to see Wicked.

I want to see Wicked. Never seen the musical but love Defying Gravity. As an aside, I loved the Barbie movie.

For reference, I’m male, 55, and straight.

Cariadm · 27/11/2024 00:51

ZenNudist · 25/11/2024 07:44

Eh? I don't see the problem.

I call it a tummy.

How old are you?! 🙄

CrowleyKitten · 27/11/2024 03:25

Bpuss · 25/11/2024 09:22

"I enjoyed the film" would have been fine...

It was just the cliche 'hallmarks of a classic" like that got me. I mean, I don't understand what he meant by that. I haven't seen the film but to me, classic has an incredible musical score, complex characters, that kind of thing. Wicked just seems like Hollywood fluff with a typically predictable plot so I also took issue with the comment for that reason too.

I've not seen the film yet, but I HAVE read the book and seen the musical. it hits all those points.
the book is intensely political. the musical less so, but still features some of the same issues.

you seem to be making these judgements without knowing about it in any real detail.

CrowleyKitten · 27/11/2024 03:41

SleepyHippy3 · 25/11/2024 10:25

What are you talking about? Do you even have any idea what the film is about? The film, like the musical, is aimed at every one.

yeah, it's not aimed at female children. have you READ the book it was based on? it's very adult and very political. the musical is less so, but it's still not aimed at children.

CrowleyKitten · 27/11/2024 03:51

Pluvia · 25/11/2024 10:29

When you're in a relationship you have to make judgments about whether someone's right for you or not. OP can see from his taste in films and his review that he's someone who doesn't appear to have original or informed thoughts or developed critical faculties, and she's judging that he probably isn't the person she wants to spend the rest of her life with. That's fine.

I have no issues with anyone, male or female, gay or straight, 14 to 80+, going to see schlock designed to appeal to teenage girls, but if they don't have any intelligent critical insight after seeing it then yes, I would conclude that they're not the interesting, stimulating, intelligent companions I seek.

well, for a start, it's not "schlock aimed at teenage girls" I've read the book, many years back, which was very adult and very political. and then some years back saw the musical as that was my friends birthday activity choice. it was fantastic. the political side of it was toned down a bit, but it was still very much not aimed at children. not seen the film yet, but I've not seen anything to suggest it's aimed at children.

I wouldn't judge someone wanting to see it as not intelligent.

in addition to that, my husband loves some TERRIBLE films. we're talking your Cannonball Run type of thing. but I love horror films and he doesn't. we just try and watch our sort of films when the other is doing something else. it doesn't mean we're incompatible.

Moro93 · 27/11/2024 04:55

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the way he speaks, even though it’s not the words I’d choose. However, if you’re feeling like he’s making you cringe or giving you the ick then it doesn’t bode well for any future.

Some of the implications here are ridiculous 😂 Choice of film doesn’t dictate someone’s sexuality or whether they’re on the spectrum or not.

My DH really enjoyed the stage musical of Wicked (along with other musical theatre shows) when we went to see it. He did hate the film though but at least he didn’t refuse to go and see it because of whatever toxic masculinity stereotypes surround a straight male going to see a musical.

He also wouldn’t refuse to go and see anything his children liked, he went to a Taylor Swift tribute because our DD loves her and he’s into extreme metal!

TheMamaLife · 27/11/2024 05:12

Agix · 25/11/2024 07:40

It doesn't sound strange to me. It's not a phrase I would use myself but wouldn't bat an eyelid if someone sent me a text that said that.

People just talk differently and use different phrases and words.

i agree with this… but a grown man, presumably with a bunch of male friends (I’m assuming, might be wrong) going to watch Wicked on opening weekend? That’s “cringe”.

Zanatdy · 27/11/2024 05:37

That’s tame to how much my ex bigged it up, he even used his free Vue ticket (2 he gets every month via sky) for me to take DD again! Sure he would use that term too, he bigs things up a lot, just how he is. I don’t find it that odd he said he it has hallmarks of a classic. I’ve heard great things about it so looking forward to going!

AChickenPooAndABiscuit · 27/11/2024 05:43

sweetpickle2 · 25/11/2024 09:14

Objectively there is nothing wrong with what he said, if it's caused this much of a reaction then you probably don't like him very much.

Your assessment of his wedding speech made me sad, the poor guy! Let him go so he can date someone who is nicer about him.

Edited

This. Why on earth did you need to point out that you didn’t think he was gay… just because he’s seen Wicked… I have no idea @BpussHmm

SleepyHippy3 · 27/11/2024 06:40

CrowleyKitten · 27/11/2024 03:41

yeah, it's not aimed at female children. have you READ the book it was based on? it's very adult and very political. the musical is less so, but it's still not aimed at children.

i think you are responding to the wrong person?

SleepyHippy3 · 27/11/2024 06:44

CrowleyKitten · 27/11/2024 03:41

yeah, it's not aimed at female children. have you READ the book it was based on? it's very adult and very political. the musical is less so, but it's still not aimed at children.

I’ve definitely READ the book, seen the musical and the film, and understand the premise and themes.

pilates · 27/11/2024 06:48

Honestly op, I don’t think you are coming across well here. He sounds a bit quirky but a decent guy. You need to let him go and hopefully he can find someone who appreciates him and not sneering about him on an online forum.

SleepyHippy3 · 27/11/2024 07:20

Whippetlovely · 26/11/2024 18:51

Because it's cheesy crap probably.

So only women watch “cheesy crap”?

GoldsolesLugs · 27/11/2024 07:35

SantoriniSunrise · 26/11/2024 18:18

Personally, I find using the word belly instead of stomach quite ignorant, and would annoy me.

Ironically it's the opposite of ignorant. Stomach is the organ, the gut, the thing inside. It's like if you called your arse your anus. If you say abdomen then fair enough, but otherwise wind your thesaurus in.

GoldsolesLugs · 27/11/2024 07:36

TheMamaLife · 27/11/2024 05:12

i agree with this… but a grown man, presumably with a bunch of male friends (I’m assuming, might be wrong) going to watch Wicked on opening weekend? That’s “cringe”.

Why though?