To want a way to label the reasonable fear of the variety of Islam that wishes to impose Sharia law?

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I understand that there are different sects within Islam and that while some pose no concerns, others do. I am horrified at the type of Sharia law imposed in Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan, which denies women human rights, but it's hard to talk about those reasonable fears without being labelled Islamophobic. It's not unreasonable to fear a religion that imposes such harsh lives on women.

Is that in the UK or worldwide?

I think it is odd to be afraid of Islamic extremists imposing Sharia law when the likelihood is infinitesimal instead of being afraid of Christian extremists rolling back women’s’ rights, or aiding genocides against other religious faiths.

We can see the damage the religious right is doing in the United States. That is more likely to happen here than Sharia law.

I'm sure not all of it is bad. But people don't always do their research into the less salubrious bits, and some may like the way it's more prescriptive and strict. A bit like how you get people who follow restrictive diets because it makes them feel more 'pure' in some way (you even get terminology like 'clean eating').

Perhaps they want to be part of something

I don't understand it at all

The Church are in the House of Lords, they're already interfering in government.

Well if they have come from a Christian background, maybe they want to pick and chose the nice bits ? After all, there is a precedent.

You see, I think that's seriously underestimating the cultural differences between the US and the UK.

Ssshhhhh !!!!! You are supposed to pretend the UK is really a secular country. Don't spoil it.

The cultural differences between US and U.K. are very subtle compared to say cultural differences between US/U.K. and UAE.

You see, I think that's seriously underestimating the cultural differences between some parts of the US and some parts of the UK.

May be a better way of stating it ?

The all have "United" in their names !!!!!

Do I win a prize ?

(I really need to get out more. But it's cold and far too "bracing" 😬)

Yes, you win a prize 🏆
Horrible dark, wet and windy day today.

The CofE has, since the 16th century, always have had a certain impact with politics, but nothing that much nowadays.

Sharia law doesn’t affect any non Muslims. 🤷‍♀️

Isn’t that kind of the point of the New Testament? Jesus brings a new message to the people?

Yeah, the OP is terrified that one day, it will be the law of the land. 🙄

Or they're three very much culturally distinct places. We do have more in common with the US, but levels of/style of religiosity are a big point of difference. Then again the Bible belt is almost a different country than, say, California - but overall I would say that's true. You would have to have huge cultural change here to even get people interested. But we are living in turbulent times, who knows!

Thanks quantumbutterfly

I must watch that too. Not sure if I recognise posting style or not but there seems to be some wilful misunderstanding going on! Or I'm just extremely confused.

We don't know how much influence the Church has on politics. We know that Charles, head of the Church, gets to approve or disprove policies that may effect him.

What is your definition of “so many” because it must be way off mine?
It is estimated that around 5,000 people a year convert to Islam in the UK. In a country of almost 70 million that number is objectively absolutely tiny.

Tell that to the Christians in America (and here) who adhere (much like shit to a shoe) to the Leviticus version of the Bible.

See that flood ? Jesus would tell you that it's God test for us to work together to demonstrate our understanding of his love for us and his desire we build a better world.

See that flood ? It's God telling us we need to check exactly where men are putting their willies.

Choices, choices.

Will the UK go the way of India eventually? With the partitioning of land to accommodate the populations different faiths? 🤷

How many convert back ?
How many lose interest after a few weeks ?
How many just say it because it's what someone wants to hear ?

Heavily disagree. If the US wasn’t white and didn’t speak English we wouldn’t think they were culturally similar to the UK at all.

44 states have the right to bear arms
only 11 states have paid maternity leave
social policy around welfare and workers rights across the majority of the US are at odds to what we would call “British values” but the UK, to name just a few.

There really is a lot to be said for the idea that the Pilgrim Fathers left England not because they were persecuted, but because they were upset they couldn't persecute others.

E2A: I hesitate to suggest 17th century England was a paradise of tolerance, but it did seem to attract an awful lot of people who were persecuted in Europe.

I don’t know quite what to say. I have lived in the US, U.K. and a majority Muslim country and you don’t have a leg to stand on saying that the U.K. is more culturally similar to a Muslim majority country than it is to its own former colony the US.

You can own a gun in the U.K. - we just have tighter gun control than some US States

Lack of paid maternity leave isn’t a cultural thing, it’s an impact of the Christian religious right on the country. Which is more likely to happen here than Sharia law after all Kemi Badenoch, leader of the Tories, gave a whole speech on the evils of paid maternity leave.