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To not understand adult food vs kids food?

317 replies

SofandaCox · 22/11/2024 11:37

I meet up occasionally with my old baby group. Our babies are 3 now. We met up yesterday for lunch and there’s a few in the group that are firmly in the adult foods are separate to kids food camp and I find it so bizarre. They make really weird comments like “why would you give that to a child” “my child would never eat that” “I wouldn’t waste that on a child” etc. my child has a long list of allergies and I’ve had gastric surgery so can’t much so we usually share a meal. The offending meal? Calamari. Basically chicken nuggets but wish squid. They acted like I had just purchased my toddler a fillet mignon with champagne and lobster tail. Which, again, don’t see the issue if that’s what he wanted! Has anyone experienced this? And also just to be so rude as to sit there and actually make comments about it. I’ve had judgey thoughts about them feeding their 3 year old jarred baby food but I’ve kept that to myself. It’s making me not want to meet up with them anymore but it would be a shame for my son as he enjoys spending time with the others toddlers.

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ForRealTurtle · 22/11/2024 15:38

DecafDodger · 22/11/2024 15:33

I was discussing restaurants with a friend and all her recommendations were 'they have a children's menu!'
Our respective children are 8 and up, not toddlers.

The best not expensive restaurants do not tend to offer childrens menus. They are family run independent places who are more than happy to make adjustments to food for children.

Olika · 22/11/2024 15:45

My DD currently is only happy to eat chips, sausages or meatballs when we eat out so calamari sounds great. I couldn't be bothered with what other kids eat and if someone commented on it I would respond at the time. Must try calamari next time.

DreamyDreamy · 22/11/2024 15:49

VeggPatch · 22/11/2024 12:53

I can solve your mystery and save you wondering. My toddler just wasn't eating, or drinking. She was later diagnosed with autism, and she has ARFID. She wouldn't drink water and professional advice was to give her flavoured water or a little bit of squash in the water so that she would at least drink something - so we did.

I offered her ketchup to see if it could entice her into eating something - but she didn't like ketchup (she won't have any sauces) so that didn't work. By the time we realised the extent of her sensory problems with eating she'd already tried the occasional chip or crisp, and had liked both of them. If I knew then what I know now, would I have let her have one? Possibly the chips but probably not the crisps.

She's up to a healthy weight now and has a wider range of foods she'll eat, but if you have never watched despairingly as your underweight toddler refuses meal after meal after meal, don't judge parents for offering "junk food" as a last resort.

I’m sure you’ll agree that this is quite an extreme and unusual case. I know a lot of families where little kids are given sweet drinks, ketchup etc not because it is the last resort to make them maintain a healthy weight.

SofandaCox · 22/11/2024 15:54

I really don’t see how this is a stealth boast. I genuinely don’t understand why there needs to be separate menus, not just smaller portions. I eat chicken nuggets and I’m 31, not a child so I don’t see why that’s a “child’s food”. It’s just food.

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Oppenjam · 22/11/2024 16:14

ShilohTikva · 22/11/2024 12:00

Its a British culture thing I think. Ever since I moved here I've been shocked at the rubbish people's children seem to eat. Fresh nice food is never a waste. Yet children's food here seems to be processed a lot

No, it’s really not. Most people I know are very intent on weaning only with fresh veg and whole unprocessed foods. Baby led weaning is huge because the whole idea is you give the baby some of what you're eating. Most people are terrified about giving their toddlers ultra processed foods these days. I’ve never done ‘kids’ food, I’d say this is a very dated concept.
Maybe ‘some’ people’s children eat rubbish, but that’s the same in any other country I’ve live in/ travelled to.

BakedAlaska12 · 22/11/2024 16:17

I genuinely remember reading this exact post a while ago. Is it just me? It was the exact same word for word.

mathanxiety · 22/11/2024 16:17

I agree that it's a British cultural thing, and I've seen it in the US too.

It comes from a complete lack of connection to food and eating as part of family life.

pooballs · 22/11/2024 16:19

To be honest I think it’s 99% luck and nothing to do with superior parenting how fussy a child ends up being with food.
its the reason some people have two children who will eat everything and anything then have a third who will only eat beige food.
IME every child I’ve known who has been ‘fussy’ or restricted with food there has always been underlying sensory or ND issues.
I’ve known people who have done fresh goods BLW etc and ended up with an extremely picky eater, likewise babies weaned on jars/pouches 99% of the time and have very varied palettes as older children.

Although once your kids are older literally nobody asks or cares how they were weaned or fed as babies/toddlers 🙄

mathanxiety · 22/11/2024 16:21

JaydeeMai · 22/11/2024 12:03

It really isnt. Most people wouldn't comment on someone else's choices like that, because its rude. But some people are pricks, regardless of where they are from.

It's not the commenting she was referring to.

It was the unquestioned idea that there is such a thing as "kid food", that kids couldn't possibly like or want anything else.

JockTamsonsBairns · 22/11/2024 16:22

This thread is dripping with privilege.

mathanxiety · 22/11/2024 16:27

MrsAvocet · 22/11/2024 12:23

I used to work with someone who was a keen cook but she gave her children fish fingers and chips type meals every day and then after the kids were in bed she cooked her and her DH delicious meals. I found that particularly weird, since she was very interested in and knowledgeable about food but was of the opinion that her skills were wasted on children. I presume at some point she transitioned the children to eating with their parents but I moved jobs so don't know how/when.
I'm not saying my children have never had fish fingers and chips, but if that's what they were eating it's what we were all eating. It's a quick and easy meal that's useful sometimes when you're short of time and as long as it's not all you eat I don't see any harm in freezer food once in a while. But I don't understand the tendency to treat children as incapable of enjoying a wide variety of food. When my children were young I remember several occasions when they had friends round who simply didn't recognise the food I put on the table - and it wouldn't have been anything exotic, I am not a particularly adventurous cook. Nor were they from families who couldn't afford good food which is of course a whole different issue. Given how much variety of food we have access to these days, even compared to my own childhood, I find it rather sad how many children seem to have restricted diets.

Yes, I've entertained children similarly bamboozled - by homemade mashed potatoes, shepherd's pie, meatloaf, spaghetti with meatballs, homemade mac 'n cheese, chili with noodles, and many other very basic foods.

Also children who had clearly never used a knife and fork or drunk from anything but a water bottle.

All from well off families.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 22/11/2024 16:28

MumblesParty · 22/11/2024 14:31

This.

All you parents whose kids will eat anything and everything - do you think the rest of us actively discouraged this in our kids? Do you think we like cooking different meals? Some kids are fussy, some aren’t.

DS1 was terribly fussy, and would rather starve than eat stuff he wasn’t keen on. If he forced himself to eat it he’d vomit. Now he’s 19 and he eats anything.

DS2 ate anything as a young child. Now he’s mid teens he’s become ridiculously fussy, and has a tiny repertoire of meals he’ll eat without a big drama.

I've got about 4 foodstuffs I don’t like. I’m incredibly unfussy. Did my absolute best with my kids diet, but ultimately they are who they are.

This whole thread is a stealth boast.

@MumblesParty - I don't think it's a stealth boast. Thing stealthy about it - it's a boast boast. Boasty mcBoast face

JaydeeMai · 22/11/2024 16:32

mathanxiety · 22/11/2024 16:21

It's not the commenting she was referring to.

It was the unquestioned idea that there is such a thing as "kid food", that kids couldn't possibly like or want anything else.

Again, that's not a cultural thing. It's an individual opinion which most people don't share. But some people do, regardless of where they are from.

C8H10N4O2 · 22/11/2024 16:34

DogInATent · 22/11/2024 14:30

It's also the weirdness of thinking/expecting that a small portion should cost less than an adult portion. Most of the cost to the restaurant is per-plate, regardless of how much is on it. But we expect a child's meal to be cheaper than an adult meal.

And this is how we end up with the concept of Hungry Horse as good value..

I don't expect it to be half the price but yes, across most of Europe and other places children's portions of adult meals are cheaper than the adult portion. Accommodating and treating children well brings in the whole family.

Also the incremental cost to the restaurant of providing two plates to share one portion is tiny against the income from a whole family dining in the restaurant.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 22/11/2024 16:37

ThatTealViewer · 22/11/2024 14:45

In my culture - and a lot of non-western cultures - kids eat the food you eat. Sometimes they like it, sometimes they don’t. If they don’t like it, there’s always the next meal. Like everyone else, they develop likes and dislikes, and those evolve and change. Sometimes they get their favourite, sometimes they get food they don’t like and they refuse it. None of this is considered a big deal.

There is no beige food. There are no kids’ meals. The idea of making a separate meal to cater to a child wouldn’t even come up. I’m not attempting to be scathing - these things simply do not exist as options.

Those things were all normal when I was a child in the U.K. too. You ate what you were given (or went without) - there was never any question of anything being cooked (it was all from scratch) specially for a fussy kid. And I did have a Dsis who was extremely fussy - still is!

No choice for school dinners, either - you were allowed one fad, otherwise you had to eat it. My fad was meat fat, which I still can’t bear.

Of course this was all back in the Dark Ages, when many people still remembered rationing.

SooticaTheWitchesCat · 22/11/2024 16:47

I never did kids food really. Sometimes they would have goujons or something but mainly they ate what we did. And they like Calamari too.

Lolabear38 · 22/11/2024 16:49

DogInATent · 22/11/2024 15:16

It may come across as UK bashing, but it's not even the thing I hate most about the British attitude to food. It's the expectation that everywhere you go you can get the same predictable menu. And the over-dependence on bland restaurant chains reheating meals prepared in industrial kitchens.

This seems like a bit of a generalisation - as is proved from this thread there’s a whole load of people who neither expect, nor want, this.

The chain restaurants are there to cater for the people who want them, and the independent restaurants/ cafes/ coffee shops are there for the people who want more choice.

It’s coming across as UK bashing, because making generalizations about one group of people and applying it to an entire country is UK bashing.

Noseybookworm · 22/11/2024 16:57

I think it's wierd, our kids ate what we ate. At 3 we could take them to an Indian or Chinese restaurant and there were no kids meals! I think you're absolutely right to introduce your little one to a wide range of foods. I can't imagine feeding a 3 year old baby food from a jar 😳

Manypaws · 22/11/2024 17:01

@DogInATent yes, no other country has bland chain restaurants

PrincessHoneysuckle · 22/11/2024 17:11

Ds 10 loves calamari,mussels,prawns in fact all seafood.We got him to try them very young.

Manypaws · 22/11/2024 17:13

Perhaps people give their children what they can afford

Oppenjam · 22/11/2024 17:16

@DogInATent this is such a load of crap. In my small town we have independently run Indian, Chinese, Italian, Greek, French, Spanish, Thai and British restaurants. Please tell us what the ‘same predictable’ menu is at all these places? And not a single chain restaurant, but yes of course all we want is a bland chain restaurant, clearly no demand for anything else 🙄.

KirstenBlest · 22/11/2024 17:18

The whole “oh you WONT like that darling”‘is just setting them up for failure 😂
Totally the opposite with me.

@Manypaws , the food pouches/jars are expensive compared to standard family food

PeloMom · 22/11/2024 17:22

I don’t understand it either. I detest kids menus- the food there is not something I’d consider food suitable to give my kid (I appreciate there are fussy eaters and that’s all they’d eat though). I’ve always ordered from the normal menu to them- grilled fish, grilled meats, vegetables, etc.

ForRealTurtle · 22/11/2024 17:23

@Oppenjam In spite of your local area, there are a lot of chain restaurants in Britain. My local high street is full of them.