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To not understand adult food vs kids food?

317 replies

SofandaCox · 22/11/2024 11:37

I meet up occasionally with my old baby group. Our babies are 3 now. We met up yesterday for lunch and there’s a few in the group that are firmly in the adult foods are separate to kids food camp and I find it so bizarre. They make really weird comments like “why would you give that to a child” “my child would never eat that” “I wouldn’t waste that on a child” etc. my child has a long list of allergies and I’ve had gastric surgery so can’t much so we usually share a meal. The offending meal? Calamari. Basically chicken nuggets but wish squid. They acted like I had just purchased my toddler a fillet mignon with champagne and lobster tail. Which, again, don’t see the issue if that’s what he wanted! Has anyone experienced this? And also just to be so rude as to sit there and actually make comments about it. I’ve had judgey thoughts about them feeding their 3 year old jarred baby food but I’ve kept that to myself. It’s making me not want to meet up with them anymore but it would be a shame for my son as he enjoys spending time with the others toddlers.

OP posts:
Manypaws · 22/11/2024 17:29

@KirstenBlest I think we are talking about more than food pouches and jars

CowboyJoanna · 22/11/2024 17:40

I do find it a bit pretentious to feed your kids posh nosh be honest. Then again Im a "dish them up turkey twizzlers chips and beans" kind of mum

Natsku · 22/11/2024 17:53

I was raised to eat the same food my parents ate, no 'kid's food' or separate dinners, and as my mum had coeliac disease beige freezer foods were a very rare treat. I was still quite fussy as a child, carefully scraping all the sauce off my food and swallowing it down with water but we had to eat everything so everything (more or less) got eaten.

My children have always had the same food as us too, but there were a few years when everything had to be served with ketchup to my youngest, even pudding(!) And a period where he pretty much only ate beetroot - I'd serve everything but include beetroot and mostly only the beetroot got eaten Grin he eats better now he's 6, and rarely asks for ketchup any more. And oldest had to have everything on separate plates for several years. But I always kept on serving the same foods.
We eat beige foods sometimes, but we all eat them, not just the kids. Funnily enough they both dislike the common kid food of fishfinger.

mathanxiety · 22/11/2024 18:03

CowboyJoanna · 22/11/2024 17:40

I do find it a bit pretentious to feed your kids posh nosh be honest. Then again Im a "dish them up turkey twizzlers chips and beans" kind of mum

I'm interested to know the meaning of pretentious and posh here.

Do you mean pretentious as in doing something people of a certain station in life shouldn't do?

What makes a food posh posh?

Fizbosshoes · 22/11/2024 18:46

Ds 10 loves calamari,mussels,prawns in fact all seafood.We got him to try them very young. ....and he happened to like them.....

Do you think everyone with fussy eaters has never thought of (and tried) offering them other food..?

DecafDodger · 22/11/2024 19:11

I do find it a bit pretentious to feed your kids posh nosh be honest.

Why, mine love gourmet restaurants just as much as we do. Why shouldn't I take them?

RedToothBrush · 22/11/2024 19:20

CowboyJoanna · 22/11/2024 17:40

I do find it a bit pretentious to feed your kids posh nosh be honest. Then again Im a "dish them up turkey twizzlers chips and beans" kind of mum

So if you are already eating at a Green King pub you should only feed your kid nuggets, rather than let them have a curry?

Or you do decide to go somewhere relatively nice, cos you wouldn't be there if you couldn't afford it, you should be a stingy bastards and give them sausages and mash rather than the salmon dish they really wanted?

Or if you have kids round for a sleepover, you should 100% order Domino's in, rather than make homemade lasagne or even homemade pizza (even though that's cheaper by miles).

ChocolateTelephone · 22/11/2024 19:28

Extremely weird reaction to what is, essentially, fish fingers

Sirzy · 22/11/2024 19:44

PrincessHoneysuckle · 22/11/2024 17:11

Ds 10 loves calamari,mussels,prawns in fact all seafood.We got him to try them very young.

Good on you. So did I. DS is still tube fed because of the extent of his food aversion.

mumTTCbaby2x · 22/11/2024 20:16

Well I'd definitely find the champagne an issue Wink

Joking aside, I completely agree. People are shocked when they see my child eating smoked salmon cream cheese bagel for breakfast, someone once said "just buy him some pancakes" he doesn't like pancakes! 🙃

grimupnorthnot · 22/11/2024 20:40

89redballoons · 22/11/2024 15:05

My 5 year old would be quite capable of putting a load of ingredients on a pizza and then not eating it. He doesn't like melted cheese - just doesn't like the texture of it. At a make your own pizza party, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he sprinkled grated cheese onto his pizza, had it cooked, and then refused to eat it because the cheese was melted.

He does love fish, seafood, lentils and pulses (including but not limited to baked beans), all kinds of pickles, mushrooms, rare beef, beetroot, etc, so it is honestly not that I only feed him beige food and tell him everything else is yucky Hmm he just has preferences.

he could have happily tried it and then not like it but considering he was put off before he even got chance was my point.

and they could literally have put anything or nothing on it. It was just fun. For reference every other child at least tried their pizza.

in my experience parents are mostly the problem.

justusandthecat · 22/11/2024 20:52

My 2 year old will eat anything spicy food, sushi, paella, olives, any vegetable you care to name. I would be so smug and probably writing a book about how to have a child with a fabulous varied diet if it wasn't for his 3 year old sister who exists on sausage and mash, fish fingers and chips, garlic bread, yoghurt, and the culinary delight that is pasta and grated cheese. If I can get a forkful of peas into her it's a good day.

Lentilweaver · 22/11/2024 21:28

What is posh nosh? Anything not breaded and fried?

JudgeJ · 22/11/2024 22:54

Lolabear38 · 22/11/2024 14:30

It’s really not ‘only in the UK’ you find this. It’s common in America (not surprising) but as an expat who’s lived in a number of different countries around the world I can confirm it’s also common in many countries.

On MN anything done in the UK is inferior to the rest of the world, usually said by those who have never lived abroad. In the US there is usually a children's menu, our grandson once ordered mac'n'cheese and the waiter told him 'and that comes with a side of fries'.

SofandaCox · 22/11/2024 23:13

I think my point is being misunderstood, which is probably my fault, English is not my first language. We eat “unhealthy food” that’s not what I’m trying to get at and class isn’t an issue as the construct doesn’t exist in my country. The point in making is these women would rather go next door to Boots to buy jarred baby food than order off the “adult menu” for their toddlers. That’s what I don’t understand. They will it feed their children what they feel to be “adult” food. The place we when to for lunch doesn’t have a children’s menu. My son will happily eat fish fingers and chips which is essentially what I ordered him. He had a different palate perhaps because we ate from a different culture which heavily features fish but I don’t see this as superior. It’s just food. I don’t understand the mentality that some food is for children and some food is for adults. I am an adult that eats “children food” and my children eat “adult food”. I don’t understand the divide is what I’m saying.

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upat4am · 22/11/2024 23:24

SofandaCox · 22/11/2024 15:54

I really don’t see how this is a stealth boast. I genuinely don’t understand why there needs to be separate menus, not just smaller portions. I eat chicken nuggets and I’m 31, not a child so I don’t see why that’s a “child’s food”. It’s just food.

Because, despite their patents best efforts, not all kids like "adult food".

Some children like more simple flavours or might get overwhelmed by new dishes, so having something safe can be a huge relief for them.

Some children don't have the same reaction, so wonderful that they don't need kids menu. You can always ask for a half portion or share at your table/take leftovers.

protectthesmallones · 22/11/2024 23:24

It does seem to be a British thing. This division of food.

I raised mine to eat good food from the start. We just asked for a smaller plate or a main as a starter size. Rarely had issue.

We all ate good food together and never from a kids menu.

I remember once an uncle being helpful ordered my children and his children, food in a pub.

When it arrived it was chicken nuggets. My son declared it wasn't proper chicken as it didn't have any bones in it. He refused to eat it.

Foodie333 · 22/11/2024 23:28

That chain restaurant “Billy’s” if it still exists. Did a Mac & Cheese on kids menu, which was same as adults just smaller. It had so much horseradish in the cheese that it was nose-burn hot. No way any child would like it, mine didn’t. I tried and it was awful for a kid - prob child abuse.

Billy’s staff was unapologetic …made a big deal like I was fussy.

The Billy’s in my town shut, and I like to think the Mac & Cheese child abuse menu was the reason.

whoamI00 · 23/11/2024 00:34

SofandaCox · 22/11/2024 23:13

I think my point is being misunderstood, which is probably my fault, English is not my first language. We eat “unhealthy food” that’s not what I’m trying to get at and class isn’t an issue as the construct doesn’t exist in my country. The point in making is these women would rather go next door to Boots to buy jarred baby food than order off the “adult menu” for their toddlers. That’s what I don’t understand. They will it feed their children what they feel to be “adult” food. The place we when to for lunch doesn’t have a children’s menu. My son will happily eat fish fingers and chips which is essentially what I ordered him. He had a different palate perhaps because we ate from a different culture which heavily features fish but I don’t see this as superior. It’s just food. I don’t understand the mentality that some food is for children and some food is for adults. I am an adult that eats “children food” and my children eat “adult food”. I don’t understand the divide is what I’m saying.

What did she get for her child at the restaurant?

SofandaCox · 23/11/2024 01:19

whoamI00 · 23/11/2024 00:34

What did she get for her child at the restaurant?

Did you not read what you quoted??

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tellmesomethingtrue · 23/11/2024 01:28

ShilohTikva · 22/11/2024 12:00

Its a British culture thing I think. Ever since I moved here I've been shocked at the rubbish people's children seem to eat. Fresh nice food is never a waste. Yet children's food here seems to be processed a lot

Well that feels pretty racist to me. I'm British and my children eat fresh, home cooked meals most of the week. At restaurants they are offered the entire menu to choose from and will order things like smoked mackerel, curry, prawns and any meat from the grill. My youngest has eaten olives, cockles, gerkins, spicy salsa and similar from a young age. My eldest absolutely loves parsnips and brussel sprouts!!

fivebyfivebuffy · 23/11/2024 02:17

I think it depends on the adult as well and what they eat/how they were fed as a child

My old colleague was having lunch with me one day, we got talking and she was a bit embarrassed but I got her point
Loads of food she hadn't ever tried and she said "but I don't want to buy it because what if it's horrible and I've wasted my money? I can't afford it"
So she was feeding her son fine, but with the stuff she had been brought up with

Stuff that was normal to me like hummus, blueberries, feta cheese she hadn't ever tried (I grew up in pubs and was fed/allowed to try whatever I wanted)

Every day for work lunch I ended up bringing in something different and she would try it. I said if you don't like it, you're an adult, spit it out! Then she felt confident she liked something, she could buy it and if her son didn't like it she could eat it and it wouldn't get wasted

Sirzy · 23/11/2024 04:21

SofandaCox · 22/11/2024 23:13

I think my point is being misunderstood, which is probably my fault, English is not my first language. We eat “unhealthy food” that’s not what I’m trying to get at and class isn’t an issue as the construct doesn’t exist in my country. The point in making is these women would rather go next door to Boots to buy jarred baby food than order off the “adult menu” for their toddlers. That’s what I don’t understand. They will it feed their children what they feel to be “adult” food. The place we when to for lunch doesn’t have a children’s menu. My son will happily eat fish fingers and chips which is essentially what I ordered him. He had a different palate perhaps because we ate from a different culture which heavily features fish but I don’t see this as superior. It’s just food. I don’t understand the mentality that some food is for children and some food is for adults. I am an adult that eats “children food” and my children eat “adult food”. I don’t understand the divide is what I’m saying.

Maybe they didn’t want to waste money on an adult meal knowing most wouldn’t be eaten!

DogInATent · 23/11/2024 08:55

Oppenjam · 22/11/2024 17:16

@DogInATent this is such a load of crap. In my small town we have independently run Indian, Chinese, Italian, Greek, French, Spanish, Thai and British restaurants. Please tell us what the ‘same predictable’ menu is at all these places? And not a single chain restaurant, but yes of course all we want is a bland chain restaurant, clearly no demand for anything else 🙄.

Edited

Most towns have independents as well, but very few towns are too twee for a Wetherspoons, Lounge, Toby, Hungry Horse, Cote, F&B, etc..

DogInATent · 23/11/2024 08:58

C8H10N4O2 · 22/11/2024 16:34

I don't expect it to be half the price but yes, across most of Europe and other places children's portions of adult meals are cheaper than the adult portion. Accommodating and treating children well brings in the whole family.

Also the incremental cost to the restaurant of providing two plates to share one portion is tiny against the income from a whole family dining in the restaurant.

The restaurants subsidise the child portions to attract the adults.

The food cost is negligible. The opportunity cost of having a child occupying a cover and sharing a plate with an adult can be significant. The 'incremental cost' isn't relevant.