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12 years of the same 'joke' and I have the rage! AIBU

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Hotflushesandchilblains · 21/11/2024 20:05

I have worked in the same place for 12 years, with mostly women and a few men. One of those, A, is giving me the rage big time and I cant figure out why I am so annoyed by this stupid so-called 'joke'. Most people live in the county we cover, but I live in the next one over. Since I have met him, A regularly makes the same joke about me not having electricity, running water, etc etc - you get the picture, that we are backward where I live. Just recently its making me want to punch him. I have told him its not amusing any more (not that it ever was). He is a bit of a 'character' anyway - very attention seeking and the kind who wants to be cracking jokes all the time. I think I am generally annoyed with him lately because there is a big project going on at work which I have done much of the set up for, and which he is trying to muscle in on. But I seem to be able to keep my feelings under wraps until he trots out this stupid joke. Is it as obnoxious as it feels?

OP posts:
asrl78 · 22/11/2024 20:16

ChaoticCrumble · 22/11/2024 18:42

I'm from the North West - I moved to the south for uni when I was 18 (now 44). EVERY job I've ever had (except the one I'm in now admittedly), there has been at least one person making jokes about thieving scousers.

It's really not funny and it puts you in the lose-lose situation of either having to pretend it's mildly amusing or 'not having a sense of humour'.

Fortunately I think the gags that started this one off are old, and most younger people don't make these comments.

This is the problem and one way bullying is validated in the UK. If you object you are miserable and have no sense of humour, if you don't call it out you are accepting and thus validating it. A toxic mentality.

I don't get all this oop north darn saarf nonsense (I was born and brought up in northern England and have lived in the SE for 22 years), blonde jokes or any number of irrational stereotypes intended to devalue people. I would say if the digs are so persistent that it is having a negative impact on you then report him to a suitable higher authority at your workplace. Even Jeremy Beadle once said jokes are only funny if the recipient laughs, if they are offended then you apologise.

Another alternative if he is old is take a line from Dads Army and call him a silly old fool, see if he can take what he dishes out.

MaryVeryContrary63 · 22/11/2024 20:17

I'm also going through this at the moment.
I'm a self employed contractor within a very prestigious charity.

I feel like I'm being bullied within the workplace.
I'm not sure where I stand due to being a contractor, although I have been there for 15 years.

Over the last 8 weeks I've been referred to as shit, and I'm approached every day as soon as I enter the premises regarding one thing or another.

I've actually gone home crying every night the last few weeks.

This person has messed up a couple of times regarding how he speaks to me and I've put him in his place.

I've been keeping a diary the last 4 weeks.
I'm at my wit's end but really need to keep this work.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 22/11/2024 20:21

MixieMatchie · 21/11/2024 20:37

I think the actual joke is beside the point. If it was said between friends, or even friendly colleagues, it would be completely fine - just a standing silly joke, that's almost funnier for not actually being funny and being "that old chestnut', and would probably be met with reciprocal teasing about his naff "dad jokes".

The point is what you say in your final paragraph - that you're frustrated with him not pulling his weight as a colleague, and "muscling in". And that you've clearly never enjoyed the joke or had a friendly relationship anyway. Therefore, his joke comes across as disrespectful and potentially undermining you. It's the context that matters. If you want to talk to your manager/HR, focus on the working relationship as a whole - don't focus on the actual joke else it will become "can you believe she went to HR to complain about my harmless Norfolk joke, jeez, I was obviously joking, I joke with everyone, don't I Carol?".

This, I think, is spot on

allmymonkeys · 22/11/2024 20:28

He can't still think the joke itself is funny so what must now be amusing him is winding you up. Which is bullying.

If he isn't the type who normally enjoys being mean, it might just be worth telling him you're bored now and you want this to stop. But if you've noticed that he does tend to indulge in this kind of "banter" with other people too, don't waste your breath. Go to HR, if you have one.

MaryVeryContrary63 · 22/11/2024 20:31

ChaoticCrumble · 22/11/2024 18:42

I'm from the North West - I moved to the south for uni when I was 18 (now 44). EVERY job I've ever had (except the one I'm in now admittedly), there has been at least one person making jokes about thieving scousers.

It's really not funny and it puts you in the lose-lose situation of either having to pretend it's mildly amusing or 'not having a sense of humour'.

Fortunately I think the gags that started this one off are old, and most younger people don't make these comments.

I've had that since 1985.
Shake hands with someone and they'd say, oh I'm lucky, my watch is still there!
Or , will my car still have it's wheels when you leave.
Did you need a passport to come through Watford jct?

I learnt to fight back with.....
Mate I wouldn't embaress myself by nicking that.
Or, I don't use bricks, I'm an intelligent scouser. I'd use books.
Do you know what they are?

Unfortunately racism/prejudice, has been around much longer than we think, and it goes much deeper than colour/religion.

RenoDakota · 22/11/2024 20:57

Is it Norfolk / Suffolk? Am guessing you live somewhere lovely like Hadleigh and annoying twat is in Diss or similar.
Norfolk born girl here but I have heard shit 'banter' like this directed at Suffolk people.

eyupcocker · 22/11/2024 21:29

BobbyBiscuits · 21/11/2024 20:09

If he's saying things like that then it's racist. In the country where I live if people started saying 'you have no water, you live in shacks, you're all uneducated and poor etc' about a person from any other country then it's classed as racial abuse and illegal.

OP said County not country

SabreIsMyFave · 22/11/2024 21:50

Why are people still banging on about @BobbyBiscuits saying 'country' instead of 'county.' It was clearly just a typo. People have been poking at her and ranting on about it for about 24 hours now. WTF is wrong with people? Can they not be arsed to read through the thread and see that MULTIPLE people have mentioned it?!!

People going on and on about it, like they're the first person to mention it, (when it's been mentioned at least half a dozen times since last night) is tedious and boring. 🙄

Let it go FFS!

Thevelvelletes · 22/11/2024 21:54

ilovegranny · 22/11/2024 17:42

The older I get, the more I hate the word ‘banter’.

Ah the by word for being a prick.

Soberinthecity · 22/11/2024 21:57

Newsenmum · 21/11/2024 20:12

Is it wales? I’d sharply say “you do realise that’s racist don’t you” and report him

Edited

Eh?

crowisland · 22/11/2024 22:00

Stickinthemuddle · 22/11/2024 18:12

Some counties are arguably races… If you live in Cornwall HR might have a very difficult chat with him

You have a very odd idea of race…please don’t confuse race as a social construct with the process of RACIALISATION

Soberinthecity · 22/11/2024 22:01

MagentaRavioli · 21/11/2024 20:26

<out loud> ‘Colin, I’d like you to stop making that comment as I don’t find it funny. I’m going to put this in writing to you and cc my line manager as I expect you to draw a line under this but would like recourse to the organisation’s bullying policy in case you don’t respond to my request.”

<silently> “you utter tosspot”

This!! 👆🏻

Soberinthecity · 22/11/2024 22:04

My main take away from this is that folk really don’t understand what racism is.

HoppityBun · 22/11/2024 22:15

RenoDakota · 22/11/2024 20:57

Is it Norfolk / Suffolk? Am guessing you live somewhere lovely like Hadleigh and annoying twat is in Diss or similar.
Norfolk born girl here but I have heard shit 'banter' like this directed at Suffolk people.

Suffolk dweller here. NFN. 😊

SabreIsMyFave · 22/11/2024 22:18

Thevelvelletes · 22/11/2024 21:54

Ah the by word for being a prick.

Yep BANTER. The word used by the 'I was only joking, you're so sensitive, you have no sense of humour' brigade! C*nts, all of them!

TommyJoesMummy · 22/11/2024 22:20

Hotflushesandchilblains · 21/11/2024 20:58

What is really funny about it is that we live in very similar towns, except mine was on a list of best places to live in the UK.......

That. That is your response every time he says it, as though you are proudly explaining to the room why his joke is so funny!

Mamabearsmile · 22/11/2024 22:22

ADHD?

crowisland · 22/11/2024 22:40

As you say, ‘ethnic group’- not ‘race’
and…sadly, only 3% of people in Cornwall speak Cornish. “The 2021 census listed the number of Cornish speakers at 563;”
other sources estimate closer to 300.

Desperatetomotivate · 22/11/2024 22:49

I dated a guy like this a few years ago, made comments about how where he lived “Sussex” was so much better than where I was from, bordering county. Bit odd as my county is famously more cultured and better. He was a huge narc.

Stickinthemuddle · 22/11/2024 22:52

crowisland · 22/11/2024 22:40

As you say, ‘ethnic group’- not ‘race’
and…sadly, only 3% of people in Cornwall speak Cornish. “The 2021 census listed the number of Cornish speakers at 563;”
other sources estimate closer to 300.

It’s a professional context so I quoted race in relation to the 2010 Equality Act, which notes race includes colour, national and ethnic origin.

The article I linked to noted Cornish is a minority language, so your information comes as no surprise…? Minority means most people don’t speak it.

IDoWaffleOnABit · 22/11/2024 23:07

Personally I would just play him at his own game because if he sees it's not bothering you there will be no point carrying on. If he says about running water say something like "yeah, it's great when it rains, we each have our own puddles. Electricity - you all have cowpat powered generators etc. etc.

Fake a yawn, roll your eyes, say "bored now" and walk away.

Smile sweetly, tell him you love him and his funny little ways/jokes - anything really that tells him you really don't give a f**k

With regards to his claiming your work success as his, try and make sure you have a record/paper trail of what you have done and if in a meeting etc say "do you want to answer this query Jeff" and let everyone see him for what he is when he can't.

Minc · 22/11/2024 23:31

Tell him he looks tired, but not as tired as his jokes.

Icedpumpkinspicelatte · 23/11/2024 07:16

BobbyBiscuits · 21/11/2024 20:09

If he's saying things like that then it's racist. In the country where I live if people started saying 'you have no water, you live in shacks, you're all uneducated and poor etc' about a person from any other country then it's classed as racial abuse and illegal.

As someone who has experienced racism since I was a child, what you just said is really offensive. A British person making fun of another British person's town is annoying, but not racist! Goes for every country if the two people are the same race/nationality. If it's a white person being nasty to another white person from another country then it's xenophobia, not racism. In OP's case, this is an annoying man who thinks he's funny.

peanutmother · 23/11/2024 07:35

Colin Hunt. The character from Fast Show

Send him a clip

Tell him he's a c-hunt