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Am I ‘censoring’ my husband?

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SallyMcCarthy · 21/11/2024 06:44

I am very well known in my professional field and, although I have political opinions, I choose to be publicly non-political. My husband is on social media and lots of people know he’s my husband. He likes to post very partisan, provocative political things that many people would find annoying/offensive. I’ve asked him not to do this, for my sake - because my professional life is quite stressful enough without having to deal with people popping up and saying, ‘Hey, what do you think about your husband saying X, Y, Z on Instagram?’

Yesterday he posted something very provocative and when I asked if he’d mind deleting it, reminding him that he promised not to post such things in future, he got very aggressive and defensive and refused to take it down. He said I was trying to censor him, and being unreasonable. Am I?

I then said, ‘I don’t see it as censoring. I see it as asking you not to do/say certain things for my sake - just as, for your sake, I never tell your mother that the reason we don’t invite her to stay any more is because we know she has tried on multiple occasions to kill our dogs, and therefore we know she’s a bit of a psycho and don’t trust her.’ I suggested to my husband that me keeping quiet about all this for his sake, so he can maintain a surface-friendly relationship with his mother, might equally be viewed as censorship. Am I being unreasonable to see this as a valid analogy?

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Foxblue · 21/11/2024 08:54

Ooh I like your response to him!

He has the right to represent himself however he wants online, however I can't really fathom having a partner say 'I'm a bit worried about how what you are saying might come back to me professionally, I'm already getting comments' and not immediately being mortified and worried I had damaged my partners career!
I'm a bit torn on this - it kind of depends what he's been saying and what you do...
Jane working for a local accountancy firm and John is saying 'the lizards are coming to get us' online.
Jane works in politics and her husband posts about what a corrupt load of wankers the conservatives are.
Jane works as a CEO of a non-profit and her husband is posting incel stuff.
Jane works in tech and her husband is posting anti-vax stuff.
The combo and scenario matters, I think!

Chuffters · 21/11/2024 08:56

It depends on what the views actually are. How ‘off’ they are. I think many of us could use social media more responsibly. Words are important, even if you’re choosing to write them and not actually say them.

is he actually trying to rile you? How is the rest of your relationship?

Heronwatcher · 21/11/2024 08:59

Does he get a benefit from your reputation? Like income, perks, more credibility? If so I think he’s being totally U.

There are loads of sensible ways that one can support causes/ individuals, donating, volunteering, reaching out individually. Posting provocative crap on X is probably the least helpful. And I suspect doing it in his name makes not a jot of difference, save to make your life just that bit more difficult.

I suspect he’s doing it deliberately to piss you off or because he resents your success. With this and the unhinged MIL I think I’d be suggesting a bit of a trial separation. Try leaving both doors open for him instead…

CurlewKate · 21/11/2024 09:05

To be honest, I probably wouldn't be with someone who posted offensive things on social media. And no, different political views are not automatically offensive.

dontcryformeargentina · 21/11/2024 09:10

If no children involved, you hate his mother and his views - divorce him.
I don't think you are compatible

Isatis · 21/11/2024 09:15

Am I being unreasonable to see this as a valid analogy?

Yes, you are. It's pretty obvious that keeping your views quiet about one person who is your husband's mother for all sorts of sensible reasons around family loyalty and dynamics in in no way comparable to keeping your views on current events suppressed.

Lotsofsnacks · 21/11/2024 09:20

SallyMcCarthy · 21/11/2024 06:44

I am very well known in my professional field and, although I have political opinions, I choose to be publicly non-political. My husband is on social media and lots of people know he’s my husband. He likes to post very partisan, provocative political things that many people would find annoying/offensive. I’ve asked him not to do this, for my sake - because my professional life is quite stressful enough without having to deal with people popping up and saying, ‘Hey, what do you think about your husband saying X, Y, Z on Instagram?’

Yesterday he posted something very provocative and when I asked if he’d mind deleting it, reminding him that he promised not to post such things in future, he got very aggressive and defensive and refused to take it down. He said I was trying to censor him, and being unreasonable. Am I?

I then said, ‘I don’t see it as censoring. I see it as asking you not to do/say certain things for my sake - just as, for your sake, I never tell your mother that the reason we don’t invite her to stay any more is because we know she has tried on multiple occasions to kill our dogs, and therefore we know she’s a bit of a psycho and don’t trust her.’ I suggested to my husband that me keeping quiet about all this for his sake, so he can maintain a surface-friendly relationship with his mother, might equally be viewed as censorship. Am I being unreasonable to see this as a valid analogy?

Going off topic what is her motive for trying to kill the dogs?! Is she mentally unwell or always been an unhinged person.

Dontwearmysocks · 21/11/2024 09:31

SallyMcCarthy · 21/11/2024 08:13

Some of you have asked how my mother-in-law tries to kill my dogs. It has varied over the years, but the main method is deliberately leaving our outer and inner front doors open in the hope that the dog will get out onto the busy road outside. She never used to be absent minded about the door before we got a dog. As soon as we got a dog, she started to do it multiple times every time she came to visit. Always denied it, and claimed my husband must’ve been the one to leave the door open. This was very plausible cover for her, because she knows we all think of my husband as generally absent minded. The thing is, he is very very good at keeping the dog safe, so I strongly suspected it was her, not him. And then one day I got concrete proof. I happened to be standing in a place where I could actually see her doing it, and she didn’t know I was there. I saw her walk along the hall and open both the inner and outer front doors, and kind of stand them fully open, before going back to the kitchen. She didn’t go outside. There was absolutely no need for her to open both doors and put them wide open like that. When I next went into the kitchen a few seconds later, she turned around, pretended to notice that the doors were open and be shocked, and she said, ‘Oh, no, the door’s open! What if the dog’s got out?’

Another time when she came to stay, I walked into the kitchen and found a full box of raisins in the dog’s food bowl! That’s why we don’t invite her any more.

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Jeez I’d be posting online about this, the crazy old horror 😲😲😲

Diomi · 21/11/2024 09:33

This is difficult one because quite of lot of fairly standard views are seen as extreme or embarrassing on social media. I’m always fascinated by the silent majority because people’s voting and actions often don’t match the trends on social media. I think it is reasonable to ask him to post under a pseudonym if it genuinely has a negative impact on your job. If you are just a bit embarrassed but it doesn’t matter then I would let him go ahead.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/11/2024 09:44

I think it's a reasonable analogy... yes it's 'not the same' exactly, but I think your husband is being more unreasonable to be posting things that could impact your career than you would be if you told your MiL why she can't visit.

It's not censorship to ask someone to curb what they say if it's going to affect you. As he'd promised not to do it, you certainly weren't unreasonable to remind him and ask him to take it down. His response was very poor - he knows he was in the wrong.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/11/2024 09:45

In fact his response is rather DARVO.

HappySquid · 21/11/2024 09:48

I don't think you're being unreasonable OP. While I think your husband has a right to his views, I also think that posting provocative stuff online isn't the best way to precipitate any kind of change but instead leads to more division and the further entrenchment of people's views within their own echo chambers. Social media simply isn't the place for that kind of debate because by its very nature (fast-moving, surface level, short and snappy) it doesn't allow for any kind of nuance. I also think we all have a much bigger duty of care/consideration to the people in our real lives, whether that's spouses, family or friends, than to strangers online. So I think your husband is being unreasonable in prioritising 'supporting' online strangers/acquaintances (which isn't even an effective way to change the things he cares about) over the very real potential for harm that his posts could cause for you (and by extension, to him, if your job is essential to your household income).

Also, your MIL sounds absolutely hideous and I'm both tremendously glad you don't invite her to stay any more and extremely impressed that you've managed to hold off from confronting her/maintained any kind of contact at all!

RadioBamboo · 21/11/2024 10:00

Taking a forthright stance on one side or the other of the farmers' IHT policy would be very different from taking a forthright stance that all immigrants should be deported.

ABirdsEyeView · 21/11/2024 10:26

The danger with that though @RadioBamboo is that 'acceptable' is subjective. Either it's okay to express personal opinion or it isn't. GC females for example have been deemed on largest swathes of social media to be unacceptable, but to this who strongly hold the view, it's completely reasonable.
Provided no one is physically threatening another person, we kind of have to accept that if we defend the dh's right to say what he wants, he may well be saying things we personally think is deeply offensive!

I think it would be better if he protected his wife rather than people on the internet because surely I. Life our first responsibility is to our families?
Besides, it's self sabotage if he costs his wife money and this ends up affecting his own lifestyle.

RedHelenB · 21/11/2024 11:04

TTPDTS · 21/11/2024 07:31

Eh, I sort of think he should be able to use his social media as he wishes.

I don't think comparing maintaining a civil relationship with his mother by not telling her she's a psycho and not trusted to him posting online political opinions for discussion is a fair comparison.

I can understand him not wanting to change what he is doing (which is fairly normal from what I see on social media!). Why is he responsible for these people that are asking this question? I'd be getting them to stop first.

This. You are censoring him .

BearOnABlanket · 21/11/2024 11:19

If he's just joe bloggs, spouting his opinions to his 50 followers then it's different to if he's a major influencer with 100k followers who gets noticed.

If he's just joe bloggs, then why does his real name need to be associated with it? He's just making trouble for you for giggles and that is unreasonable.

If he's a major influencer/well-known then you have a bigger problem, and you need to publicly distance yourself from his opinions as publicly as he's making them.

tothelefttotheleft · 21/11/2024 11:26

Why do so many of the men talked about on this thread want to say provocative things? What this about?

Birdscratch · 21/11/2024 11:26

So you have a DH who posts offensive stuff on social media and a MIL who’s tried to kill your dog? Yikes.

ItGhoul · 21/11/2024 11:42

Are you saying that his views are so extreme that they pose a threat to your professional reputation? Because if people are questioning you about the things he posts, I'm guessing his 'partisan' posts aren't just normal moaning about the government or taking the piss out of the Tories. We're presumably talking about aggressively extremist stuff and not just mainstream political debate.

You can't stop your husband from posting his views on social media. If his views are extreme enough to make you ashamed and embarrassed, marrying him was a strange choice.

GoldsolesLugs · 21/11/2024 11:47

I hate people moaning about being censored when they're not. You're deffo not censoring him - you've asked him and he can choose to do it or not. If he doesn't do it you might be pissed off with him, but this is just dealing with the consequences of what you say.

CurlewKate · 21/11/2024 12:09

"If no children involved, you hate his mother and his views - divorce him.
I don't think you are compatible"

Wouldn't you want to get children away from these people?

Annabella92 · 21/11/2024 12:17

Is it actually offensive or provocative? Can we have some examples

gamerchick · 21/11/2024 12:23

I think I'd separate my social media accounts from his and go the full block. Although I don't know a lot about twitter or it's mechanics.

Blanca87 · 21/11/2024 12:30

Well the apple does not fall far from the tree then. I can’t believe she tried to kill your dog and his response is let’s just keep it to ourselves, eh?! What a pair of nut jobs.

DysmalRadius · 21/11/2024 12:32

It sounds problematic because he is saying one thing and doing another. If he agreed not to post and then did anyway, he should at least have the consideration to reopen the discussion rather than just going back on your agreement.