Captain Tom's daughter

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Who would have thought it?

Captain Tom's family benefitted from charity - inquiry - BBC News

Absolutely disgusted by this. His memory has been forever tarnished and his daughter shows no remorse about anything other than how her public reputation has been tarnished. The foreword of his book mentions that he hopes the money raised from his writing it will benefit charities.

He has another daughter who was very, very rarely seen or mentioned during his fundraisings and has hardly been spoken of since. I suspect that she was frozen out by Mrs. Ingram-Moore, so that she and her husband alone controlled access to their father. You see it time and again on the Cockroach Cafe and other "elderly parents" MN threads - a Golden Child who alienates and encourages cutting-off of a scapegoat or less-favoured sibling in order to control access to the older parents' wealth and/or property. I suspect this had happened in this family long before Coronavirus came to town. I feel enormously sorry for this other sister if this is true and she has to live with the domination of their elderly father for money-grubbing, mercenary purposes by her own sister. I've seen this happen many times - hurt and bewildered people whose parents "won't speak to them" because they've been spun a false narrative by Golden Child siblings who are benefitting in some material way, with no real respect for the elderly person involved.

And there will always be the question in a lot of minds of "was he deliberately complicit in it?". I'd like to think not. But it will always now carry the whiff of corruption and greed alongside all the good it wrought.

Maybe. But her response, calling it a hoax, was to a post saying something like 'like most performative activities in lockdown it was a hoax. Banging pans etc'.

Exactly

Greedy Grifters

Didn't he catch Covid on a.free British Airways trip for him and the family to Barbados?

I hope the investigation will be thorough and serious consequences given. I was pretty shocked with the £3million spa in her back garden but that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Awful woman who has adored the public persona and been too greedy to put the brakes on, she thought she was untouchable. It is upsetting because it has really made people think twice before supporting charities that are 100% legitimate. She isn’t the only one and this isn’t the only charity that needs a full overhaul.

The Barbados trip was literally insane. He was really elderly and willfully exposing him to COVID (which he died from) which was high risk of him dying from, showed me who his family really were.
Normal caring families were doing their best to protect their elderly, not risking bringing them on unnecessary trips.

This isn't a surprise at all. Charity is an inherently selfish act. People run charities to feel good about themselves and for their personal gain and people give to charities because it makes them feel good about themselves.

Until laws are passed to make it illegal for anyone involved in a charity to take any form of payment or gift in connection with that charity, people will always use them as a means to line their own pockets.

People who "work" for charities should pay to work for them, not receive payment from them.

Unfortunately any criticism of them at the time was met with howls of protest

Never mind outright criticism; even gently questioning it led to outraged insults, and for me the attitude around "rightthink" was a major problem with much about Covid - and not just that

Granted some of the conspiracy theories were a bit much, but it's still possible to rebut a view sensibly and ignore the herd mentality if we wish

What a biatch.

He was a total national lockdown hero. The country fell for him and the facile national icon myth, just like people banged pans and clapped handies for the NHS. Baaah 🐑
Weren't there even quickly printed children's books about Captain Tom? 😂

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great post. My very very elderly neighbour was taken with him. So sad really.

I think it was such a boring time that people needed a bit of light relief and the media seized on it- helped by pushy daughter

there were a couple of other old people doing things that they tried to make into something but the public imagination could only stretch so far

problem was that the daughter plucked, bled dry and slaughtered the golden goose. The trip to Barbados was in such bad taste given how everyone was being asked to live at the time - I’m not sure how the donor of the trip or the recipients couldn’t see that

as for captain tom - not going to begrudge an old man a bit of limelight in his last few years!

A hideous song I think? Paddington too?

Vom

Weren't there even quickly printed children's books about Captain Tom?

I don't know about "quickly printed", @RedShoeBlueTop, but there was certainly a children's book

A purported "autobiography" too, not to mention several about heroes and the life lessons he taught us

Edited to add google "Captain Tom merchandise" if you can stand it ...

That is ridiculous.

Can you imagine the mess that would leave for vulnerable people to navigate?

People in need of charitable support deserve professional standards of care, and charities need to be accountable to their beneficiaries and donors.

I have a vague memory that when this shitshow all began, she was just called Hannah Ingram. Then suddenly tacksd the Moore on. That looked tacky to me at the time.

Well said @BIossomtoes . That post was crafty indeed, and politically motivated. Ironic, too.

The captain Tom debacle is shameful and the charity commission has done a great job. I wonder if there will be police involvement?

Absolutely this.

Sir Tom would be so ashamed.

@Dotjones People who "work" for charities should pay to work for them, not receive payment from them.

Tell us more? Hope you never have to go into a hospice or get rescued by the RNLI....

This isn't a surprise at all. Charity is an inherently selfish act. People run charities to feel good about themselves and for their personal gain and people give to charities because it makes them feel good about themselves

I used to work for a national charity and I can reassure everyone that for every selfish, feel good scrounger there is also a person that really cares about the course.

But I have to agree, this family has been using charity as a way of getting even richer quick scheme. Glad they got caught out, named and shamed.

Sadly this is pretty much the norm for the industry (big charities), just look at the job adverts - some of the best paid jobs are running charities, so Mrs I was just appointing herself to a similar job. When you get stopped in the street by a pretty girl with a Macmillan umbrella and end up signing a DD for a monthly donation - she's on commission, tomorrow she'll be touting Oxfam in a different High St. and the company she works for, that contracts to charities, has a name that you've never heard of & is one of the most profitable companies in the UK.

It's life. Read the Children in Need Accounts try to work out why the charity needs to employ a merchant banker, but doesn't pay any money to children. I don't approve of Mrs I's grifting, but I understand why she thinks it unfair that MSM picks on her and not any other charities.

I didn't give them a single penny at the time, solely because the daughter seemed so smarmy and "absolutely loving every moment." You could practically see the pound signs rolling behind her eyes.
I consider myself a pretty good reader of people, and with everything that has come out since, it seems I was spot on.

It's a shame, as I liked Captain Tom. He seemed like a decent enough bloke, caught up in the media machine when there was literally nothing else good going on.

The amount of taxpayers money stolen through the business support loans and furlough was disgusting. The Govt's had to write of £1.1 billion and HMRC have said that £ billions more ended up in the hands of people who did not use it as intended. Our children and grandchildren will be paying for it for decades.