Captain Tom's daughter

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Who would have thought it?

I suspect high wages for charity employees are part reason donations have dropped for a lot of the big ones. An an outsider, if I saw a charity having eg operational costs amounting to half the income, I don't think it unreasonable to be a little peeved.

But certainly in this instance, a trustee who appeared to have no experience of charity work to be taking renumeration at this level is disgusting.

I'm sure poor Captain Tom is rolling in his grave in shame that he's related to these thieving scumbags. Sadly I don't think they feel shame and I doubt any money will be handed over

I am willing to put money on Capt Tom being the same greedy sod as his daughter while alive.

They were in the right place at the right time, and decided to make hay while the sun shines. I never donated a penny because the money wasn't even going to the NHS but to NHS charities ( did people realise they were donating for art work, waiting room chairs and gardening projects?! ). And I remember having my arse handed to me on here for questioning it at the time.........

Look at the charities set up by grieving parents....... Ashley Cain springs to mind, there was nearly £2 million raised for his daughter that appears to now be financing his lifestyle. Money was raised for Alfie Evans, Charlie Gard, Archie Battersbee.... what happened to all of that? Who is investigating these people too?

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@Patienceinshortsupply I would hope most people would understand that the donations couldn't go towards anything that core govt NHS funds pay for. I don't think there's anything wrong with charity funding the 'extras' - the things that aren't core but which make life better for NHS staff and for patients.

I think the real issue here is not the original fund raiser (although the motivation behind it is questionable) - it's the subsequent milking of the situation: the book, the holidays, the spa ffs!

I'm not willing to contemplate this tbh it will destroy my faith in humanity completely

I used to give according to the charity. Now I don't because apparently charities need to pay their CEO huge salaries. Apparently, without a super CEO they won't raise as much money... strange because you either support cancer charities, animal charities etc or not...who gives a fiddle about the CEO? until that individual takes a disproportionate huge salary... then people naturally think again.

I no longer support the large ones, Red Cross, oxfam, etc. I now support smaller local charities.

What do you consider a huge salary?

How would you measure that?

An example

"The estimated total pay range for a Chief Executive Officer (CEO) at The Salvation Army is £477K–£515K per year, which includes base salary and additional pay. The average Chief Executive Officer (CEO) base salary at The Salvation Army is £501K per year.22 Oct 2024'

Seriously hie on earth the CEO of the Salvation Army thinks they deserve that, greedy bugger its suppose to be a charity...

I agree that seems high!

However, The Salvation Army is a £280M charity. How would you set a salary for their CEO?

Please take a look at the latest annual report and accounts. They list people paid over 60k. You tell me how many are paid that base salary.

Or maybe you get to walk up and down a field all day long while listening to Michael Ball?

Pretty sure that's how the journey into Hell begins.

A CEO skill set is a CEO skill set.

Relatively few people hold the creds and capability to do it, so it commands a market price.

Hannah Ingram Moore charged 18 k for an event that lasted a few hours.. some sort of virgin media event.
Then wanted a salary of £150k for being the CEO of her late dad’s charity.

Not exactly in the spirit of being in the charity industry… 18 k to attend an event that lasts a few hours ?

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And what is more concerning is that the Ingram-Moores are already wealthy people. Greed, pure greed and extremely damaging to their reputation which is irreparably damaged

Unfortunately you only need to read about his views towards his 1st wife to understand that this was not some "lovely" old man. I think values can often track down through a family. I respect the other sister far more for stepping away as much as she could. It was a lovely idea, but the monetising was far too much. And I do count the celebrity hangers on in this as well. Michael ball looking at you.

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Seems any old chancer can head up a charity and charge what they like.

I bet a lot of charities run like this

Interestingly I am local-ish to that family. There are a lot of concerns as to the never ending publicity trail. But no one dares vocalise it. Even the local MP is totally supportive but it is always a good photo op.

Completely agree with this. The regimental blazer, medals, use of an army rank - all very seedy and manipulative.
Speaking as an old person (though not that old) I hate the 'Aw, lovely old codger, bless him' thing. Patronising shite. I'm sure he was complicit, at least in some degree. Hated that even more than the clapping.

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Gosh I'm sad to hear that. He's a lovely lad with such a terrible background.

I assume you'd be flown first class to Barbados, mingle with Cliff the Bachelor Boy, catch covid from Russ Abbot whilst partying in a happy atmosphere and die from Pneumonia?

I have nothing against an elderly gentleman who lived to a very good age and raised money for charity.
But Tom Moore didn’t doing anything exceptional. Millions of young men fought in WW2 , many of them didn’t live to the grand age of over 100. I dare say most of them lived to a much younger age and lived less privileged lives.

Did Captain Moore doing anything extraordinary in the War ? I don’t know for certain but from what I’ve read , no he didn’t. No more than other other officer who served.

Over the last 80 years or so we’ve seen many more men , mainly volunteers fight wars , I dare say saw much more action than Tom Moore did.
The Falklands for example , over 40 years ago.
Until recently, we had tens of thousands of young people, seeing action in Afghanistan for 20 years. Lots of these people are from working class areas, and probably went back to their roots after leaving the Army.

Again I’ve nothing against Tom Moore, but was he any more a hero than anyone else that ever served in an operational environment?

I think his daughter’s intentions may have been genuine to start with but once this made big news, she could see an opportunity to capitalise on it.