Should we be worried about war

[Seasidesand76]

Seen a lot in the news about Ukraine using USA missiles against Russia. I've been thinking more along the lines that it won't start a WW3 and will resolve at some point without the UK getting directly involved in war. But there seems to be more and more tension and threats of an all out war recently.

Should we be worried about WW3? I haven't been prepping or anything but does make me wonder if I should start getting a few days worth of food in case. At the same time I don't want to go down the prepper hole and start getting over the top.

Love that you use a serious thread about war to slyly suggest SAHMs have more time than you, while also posting on MN 😆

‘We’ changed the regime. Who is we?

I think Ukraine woke up when Russia invaded Crimea, and realised the danger they were in.

Notably not a single other country responded when Russia tested the waters with Crimea.

You speak in very odd terms. We call them governments, not regimes, here in the UK that was a rookie error on your part.

How is the weather? A bit chilly I imagine.

I wouldn't worry, the risk of a full-scale world war is low, as most major powers understand the catastrophic consequences of such a conflict, especially involving nuclear weapons. My only worry is that Islamic militants get access to nuclear weapons because the loss of life is of no concern to them. Since there is no evidence of this happening yet, it's not keeping me up at night

Replying to Snowpass, whose message has been removed or deleted…

If Russia and Europe end up at all-out war, it is countries such as the US and Iran that will benefit (from selling weapons etc), leaving other such countries in much stronger positions. A Russia and Europe COMBINED would be terrible for the other large and powerful nations, so it’s worth considering who is really benefitting from the current war….

Can't get the staff these days. I suppose it does arse up the labour market a bit, when you've lost half a million fighting age men and another million people have understandably sodded off from the motherland. Got to take what you can get.

Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. The Russian war on Ukraine has been going for ten years now. It just went to another level in 2022.

Ukraine did not do anything to “deserve” another country, not least its former colonial master, declaring war, invading, seizing territory and killing its people all of these years. The West are not “the bad guys” as the post you are amplifying says.

Prepare for winter, be resilient anyway it’s good practice.

Our parents and grandparents used to be far more thoughtful about stocking basics, but please don’t let Putins posturing create anxiety and fear - as this was his intention.

Christmas is around the corner, and there are many things to celebrate, as well as to understandably feel saddened by what the Ukrainians have been through, and are still enduring. We will be donating to charities linked to further supporting them. I can’t imagine what it has been like.

Personally I don’t like stockpiling. It leads to waste and shortages, and ultimately pushes prices up (supply: demand) so those in society with the least will be impacted the most. We all saw this in covid!

I think we just have to live our lives and stay informed.
also - who has space for loads of stockpiled food/ loo rolls etc - I barely have space for my weekly essentials!

When the West supplied humanitarian aid, Putin said it was an escalation that would lead to nuclear war.
When the West supplied intelligence and logistical aid, Putin said it was an escalation that would lead to nuclear war.
When the West supplied tanks and artillery, Putin said it was an escalation that would lead to nuclear war.
When the West supplied fast jets, Putin said it was an escalation that would lead to nuclear war.
When the West supplied long range missiles, Putin said it was an escalation that would lead to nuclear war.
When the West permitted long range missiles to be used in Russian territory, Putin said it was an escalation that would lead to nuclear war.

Putin is a paper tiger intent on sending hundreds of thousands of half-starving, badly trained and poorly equipped recruits to their deaths. He's running out of convicts to send, so is now turning to North Korea for some of their cannon fodder.

As long as NATO stands firm, he won't dare escalate, just rattle his little sabre impotently. The real danger is if NATO falters - we need to look at his useful idiots in the West, and unfortunately there are many of them, absolutely intent on undermining NATO and the Western hegemony that has guaranteed the safety and prosperity of most of us for the past 79 years.

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Are you fucking joking? What an arsehole thing to say.

Britain started getting ready for WW2 from the mid 1930s. This has a similar feel to it, including comments about the pre war generation.
I think it is a possibility now.

Ah so you seek to blame the US and envisage Russia and Europe joining forces…. In your dreams my friend!

Anybody who lived through the early and mid-1980s was probably a lot closer to WW3 than we are now.

Think When the Wind Blows (comics) - Wikipedia and Threads (1984 film) - Wikipedia. There's a reason these were made when they were.

Anybody who watched Deutschland '83 on Walter Presents might not know that the military exercise Able Archer was not fiction, but was a real military crisis - Able Archer 83 - Wikipedia

I don't see the Ukraine conflict escalating unless NATO does something provocative...

If you didn't live through the 60s and 70s, now you're getting an idea of what it's like. (and people who like to do the 'boomer bashing' on MN can get a taste of what we lived through for decades)

I can't believe we're back to the dangerous face offs of the Cold War. But, as in the 60s and 70s, I don't believe we'll ever go into full-blown world war. It'll be a muddle through.

As T S Eliot wrote:

This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper

from "The Hollow Men."

Absolutely this. We must stand strong and resolute.

I don't worry about things that I can't control. Prepping won't help anyway if there is a world war, the last one went on for years!

I'll deal with whatever comes when it comes.

Your soooo busy but just had to take time to reply with a shitty comment 🙄

Yes, and prepping certainly doesn't help if they are launching nuclear weapons. Nothing does! We can't do anything about it so it's pointless wasting your life worrying.

We should be concerned.

Putin wants the USSR and has his eye on former soviet union countries. He won't stop at Ukraine and Trump not only wants to support him he's talking about abandoning NATO.

The bigger concern with Russia and the way they attack the UK is if they manage to temporarily fuck up something like supply chains, electricity etc. Does no harm to have a few bits in for an eventuality like that if you have the cash and space. Means we free up the emergency systems for those who are less able to have a buffer.

Apparently Putin has just signed something nuclear related. I don't have enough food in the house past Wednesday so I'm stuffed for prepping.

One thing I would advise everyone to do is to keep some cash in the house. We are totally reliant on technology and the first strike( if there was to be one) will be a cyber one. First the banks to destabilise the system, followed by fuel and communication systems.
A cyber strike on banking will be fixable of course...it is expected..but it will cause a few days chaos for those who can't use cards or phones.
Also have a spare charger and some solar ones if possible. They aren't expensive but could keep you connected in the short term.

Trump is NOT going to abandon NATO he simply wants all countries to pay the agreed amount. Which they will do after this Russian shit show.

Russia don’t have the resources now to invade anywhere else. They are reduced now to using cannon fodder shipped in from North Korea.

Yes. It's reminiscent of the Cuban Missile Crisis I think, which was terrifying according to people who lived through it. Except Kennedy was a skilled negotiator - Biden and Harris petrify me and I can't quite believe Biden has done this in the last few weeks of his presidency.