Should we be worried about war

[Seasidesand76]

Seen a lot in the news about Ukraine using USA missiles against Russia. I've been thinking more along the lines that it won't start a WW3 and will resolve at some point without the UK getting directly involved in war. But there seems to be more and more tension and threats of an all out war recently.

Should we be worried about WW3? I haven't been prepping or anything but does make me wonder if I should start getting a few days worth of food in case. At the same time I don't want to go down the prepper hole and start getting over the top.

It was entirely deliberate and carefully executed. Better late than never.

Like posting on MN?

If only he'd done it a couple of years ago.

Certainly Trump wants the european nations to pay their fair share towards NATO. Whether he'd abandon them (ie us) I don't know...

I certainly agree with you about the capabilities of Russia. They couldn't organise the proverbial piss up in a brewery let alone attack western europe.

Why everybody is so paranoid about them I have no idea

I don't believe WW3 is about to happen. Putin would probably have a little accident when standing by a third floor window. I can't imagine him being allowed to destroy the world to save face.

Well, yes it might have ended the war far sooner and saved lives.

Biden has been in the grip of dementia since well before he started his term and Harris is clueless.

I think most people think that the US could have handled things differently.

I agree with the poster that looking at who would actually benefit from all this is useful. Even if just theoretically.

A senator has said that they want indirect control over the trillions worth of minerals in Ukraine, and that they did not want Russia or China to "get their hands on them" and said that this was why the US was pushing for war. In relation to Crimea, it is of huge strategic value commercially and militarily in terms of indirect control. The push and pull in Ukraine between the west and Russia started well before 2014 and so it is worth having a look at what happened back then too.

Neither are making military decisions you will be pleased to know.

The reality is that we are in a war with Russia. Sanctions and cyber are happening right now. The full scale hot war is contained to Ukraine at the moment but it could easily escalate. We had the same situation throughout the cold war, it has now returned.

I think this is baloney. It is selling Ukraine down the river. Unnecessarily.

Op there are loads of us on here who lived through the early 1980s when the threat of a nuclear attack from Russia was a real possibility, so much so there were Government information ads( if you can call them that) about what to do in the event of a Nuclear attack, it really was that serious, I remember my Dad going through what we'd do if we were given the 3 minute warning, I recall the feeling and atmosphere back then too and it wasn't very nice at all, kind of foreboding but you know what? We got through it, and since then I don't worry about going to war because there's bugger all I can do about it so it's pointless worrying.

Can you please post a credible link to support your claims about ‘minerals’. Russia have always detested the US, and I can see you are the same….

I don’t think we can blame the US for Russia amassing tens of thousands of soldiers on the border and then invading Ukraine - for minerals!!! I mean that’s a bit far fetched - do you suppose Putin killed tens of thousands of his own people to benefit the US and a senator that wants ‘minerals’

You haven’t thought through that post have you.Reported.

No - we are living in a completely different era.

All this 'prepper' stuff makes me laugh. Unless you're miles away from anyone in the wild, what good is it going to do you?

If you live in a populated area and the End Times really do come, someone is coming through your door as soon as they get hungry and only one of you is leaving with your stuff 😂

Bring on the Mad Max days!

Quite.

I saw yesterday that the Swedish government had posted 'how to prepare for war' type literature to their population, as well as Finland I think. I could be wrong with the latter country. This made me a little worried! But there's nothing we can do, so I'm not going to think about it!

People who are describing having a few days of food in as prepping are lovely. Bless your hearts, that’s just shopping.

Windows do seem terribly dangerous in Russia

Is there any point in worrying? It won't achieve anything.

We've been on the edge of war many times since WW2.

I'd have thought the American people would have had enough, frankly, they need to speak out loudly.

Anything could happen, you and I have no control. Best not to think about it and just get on with our lives.

It appears that Biden wants to make things as difficult as possible for Trump. It feels personal. I personally will feel that be safer when Trump is at the helm.

It is pointless worrying too much. However in this country we have lived relatively securely for 80 years and this security seems to be coming to an end in all sorts of ways. It is unlikely we will be nuked. Mutually Assured Destruction is real/ present and likely to prevent full scale nuclear war. There are plenty of other threats, be they to our infrastructure, banking, water, electricity, oil who knows.
With the farming protests today we should perhaps be mindful that the majority of our food is imported and the food grown here largely relies on farmers and on fertiliser,( which is a byproduct of the fossil fuel industry).
It might be worth getting some bottles of water and a stash of food to keep you going if the banks go offline and we can’t buy anything, or if the power goes off. We don’t need to prep for the apocalypse but a little wartime spirit and putting a bit of stuff by can’t harm.

Russia already does look ridiculous tbf!

Sweden or Finland? I saw that on the news.

I would say it’s worth building resilience beyond stockpiling.

Theres a thread about how young people are not able to work so hard or effectively as older generations. And another about teaching younger children how to do things independently from an earlier age. A third is ensuring young people are more able to deal with tough events, rigour, going above and beyond even if their heart isn’t in it, hardships, doing things they’re not comfortable with.

Also more important than stockpiling is helping to make resilient communities- the “soft” local mechanisms that can help you out in tough times. Good relations with neighbours. Mutual support. Exchange of goods. Caring.

Show appreciation for local businesses which are less reliant on big US or China owned warehouses and supply lines (Amazon, Shein) - even if there’s a convenience cost for you in using them - respect to local allotment owners (could potentially share their produce and skills to grow food). Resilient societies fare better during war and are better able to rebuild after.