Should we be worried about war

[Seasidesand76]

Seen a lot in the news about Ukraine using USA missiles against Russia. I've been thinking more along the lines that it won't start a WW3 and will resolve at some point without the UK getting directly involved in war. But there seems to be more and more tension and threats of an all out war recently.

Should we be worried about WW3? I haven't been prepping or anything but does make me wonder if I should start getting a few days worth of food in case. At the same time I don't want to go down the prepper hole and start getting over the top.

I trust Ukraine can verify what they can see, given it’s landed on their territory…

It is astonishing that this lie is allowed to stand. Trump is NOT going to pull the plug on Ukraine and give victory to Putin!! That’s simply NOT going to happen after the investment of billions from US tax payers to amount to absolutely nothing. I am sure he will pursue a negotiated agreement but not one that will hand the Russian savages a victory. An exit maybe but that’s all.

The OP is not lying. Trump has been saying he will cancel military aid to Ukraine for several months leading up to the election: see here, and many, many other places. https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-ukraine-russia-war-threatens-cut-aid-election-2024/

What Trump says and want Trump does aren't always the same thing, but he has been saying this.

@TheWhalrus

"What Trump says and want Trump does aren't always the same thing, but he has been saying this."

I fully agree on this point, after all let's not forget that Mexico was supposed to be paying for the border wall!

This thread has almost filled my Russian propaganda bingo thread. From dodgy websites through to misinformation/ misinterpretation of facts, "I'm not a Putin fan but" to new, seemingly terrified and uninformed posters.

I'm awestruck at how much bollocks is in one place.

They're just like poor waifs in their underwear

Who let the bots in?

apologies, typo: taught

@ladymactíre Thanks. I still don't get it but assume it's something like "they'll never learn"?

as in nobody can teach them

Oh, why don't you bestow your knowledge upon the plebs. I trust that you have the absolute truth, so come down of your high horse and enlighten the poor peasants, blinded by Russian propaganda!

Ok. @ladymactíre It's a turn of phrase I've never come across but I get what you mean

Also missing is the "coup"

You know, the coup that the government (not overthrown so not sure how that works) voted no confidence in the president who then ran away. And then they had further elections.

Because it was a coup. Something, something, cookies

And that justifies russia (offended by everything, ashamed of nothing) invading a neighbouring country and destroying it and its people

and because russia is so mighty everyone needs to tiptoe around it. Because poking the bear is an adult response to murder.

I disagree. On several occasions Zelensky has used propaganda to try and whip up a frenzy. He has nothing to lose and he would happilt drag us all into this conflict.

It's important to remember that Propaganda comes from his side too.

Probably checking they still work ..

From Sky News just now😞

Bear in mind supermarkets and food suppliers these days don't have warehouses full of food stocks as a buffer against sudden demand. Nowadays they all use 'just in time' systems that react to real-time sales data coming from stores.

This is more efficient (less waste) but also means we have less stock to bridge gaps during temporary disruptions to supply chains (even just ones caused by weather events).

The sum total of national 'just in case' food stocks depends far more now on what we have in our our millions of individual homes.

That's not necessarily a bad thing as individual households choosing the specific products they know they'll use up (so they can rotate them regularly) should mean less waste.

It does suggest a social responsibility to keep food cupboards reasonably well stocked if we can afford to do so. It's only panic-buying when an emergency's already started that's antisocial.

UK govt advice is here prepare.campaign.gov.uk/get-prepared-for-emergencies/ - it's not just the Scandinavians who advise this, because it's not just about war.

Don't Panic!
there won't be any use of nuclear weapons, Russia is not under any (serious) threat of invasion, but Ukraine simply don't have the resources to beT Russia - even with Western weapons, their population is only about 38M, Russia has about 150M. Russia has had up to 730,000 serious casualties/deaths compared to Ukraines 190,000, which is about 4:1. Given the populations of both countries, the attrition rate as a ratio is about the same for both countries. Russia will just keep grinding away, Putin doesn't care about the Russian casualties, and probably prefers a dead Russian soldier to having Russian conscripts returning home with lost limbs. It's bad PR. So Biden relaxed the rules over what US missiles can target, but it's still only military targets, Russia is happily using Iranian drones, and Korean missiles without restriction.
The only threat to Putin is from within Russia itself, nothing to be gained by a nuclear strike on Ukraine or the West.

There were nukes on his border in Ukraine, they were old USSR ones, and they were pointing West ;-)

Couldn't agree more.

I just hope they don’t do something like hacking into the emergency alert service just to cause complete panic

He wants to put the old Russian empire back together before he croaks it.

VPNs I think 🤔

Do you have a source for what you say about a vote of no confidence and not violence which triggered it? Thanks. People generally refer to "coup" when there was force - was there any force or violence?

Before 2014, was there a significant split between the very rich and the vast majority of the population who were poor?

Do you think that western input since 2014 has been good for Ukraine, or bad for Ukraine?

I’m so fed up with reading shit like this.