Should we be worried about war

[Seasidesand76]

Seen a lot in the news about Ukraine using USA missiles against Russia. I've been thinking more along the lines that it won't start a WW3 and will resolve at some point without the UK getting directly involved in war. But there seems to be more and more tension and threats of an all out war recently.

Should we be worried about WW3? I haven't been prepping or anything but does make me wonder if I should start getting a few days worth of food in case. At the same time I don't want to go down the prepper hole and start getting over the top.

Exactly this. I live near an air base in the UK, hoping they aim for that one and end me quick. Anyone remember Threads from years ago on the TV, terrifying stuff.

We've been at war with Russia for ages......
Novichock attack on British soil killing and injuring brits.......how many brits died from Russia's energy price hike? How many deaths from the increase in food prices?
Not to mention all the cyber attacks on our infrastructure and military systems.
PUTIN won't stop.......he'll only escalate......he's determined and we really needed the US to make it easier to fight him. Trump is dumb and will first believe he can manipulate Putin but will soon realise he'll have to acquiesce all of Putins' demands.

I work in an organisation connected to Defence. We are " crown servants" at an arms length from the cutting edge but with a role to play. The new Strategic Defence Review proposals suggests moving us into a " war role" . Direct quote.

Is that a surprise? We all know that NATO countries need to be able to fight a war with Russia both to compensate for the potential unreliability of the US and because of Russia's revanchism. Being able to fight and win is how we deter

Don't watch the news, then.

It's just Putin waving his willy again.
He was going to nuke Sweden and Finland if they joined NATO.
They joined and I'm still waiting for this nuking he was going to do.
Now he's blethering on about nuking USAF in Poland. It'll never happen.
He talks out of his posturing arse.

@Nikkigriffin

"how many brits died from Russia's energy price hike?"

I agree that sharp increases in energy prices caused hardship, inflation and in a limited number of circumstances death.

But this was because the UK and other European countries refused to either pay for or accept Russian gas not because the Russians hiked the price.

@Nikkigriffin

The war in Ukraine has cost the average UK household an additional £800 per year in higher energy prices (so £2000 for the 2.5 years) plus the 88% of the increase in food inflation is also down to higher energy costs. But the increase is not evenly distributed with the poorest being hit proportionately harder.

So the question is should the UK

A) have thrown Ukraine under a bus and saved each household approx £2.5k or

B) Decide that the average household is willing to be £2.5k worse off in order to protect Ukrainian sovereignty.

It's that simple.

The govmen is really good at, wor.
I wouldn't be scard ... bicaus their milsiles are quiet poorly maid.
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Trust me, I have far more time to sift through Mumsnet threads when I'm sat in my office "working" than a SAHM would.

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And you're allowed to share such info online?

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/pm-sunak-we-will-put-uk-defence-industry-war-footing-2024-04-23/

Given this article, the question of being on a war footing is hardly a secret. Whether defence policy is couched in the same language by Labour is my next search.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-army-government-downing-street-prime-minister-b1172642.html

And this is the most recent thing I can find on the subject via a cursory Google.

So 🤷‍♀️

Agreed, the UK SDSR proposals qre in the public domain and uses very direct language in places…not sure if “war role” is in there but some of the phraseology is close enough.

That said it might still be worth being wary about putting too much on-line…

You should always have a few days worth of food, drinks, light, batteries, cooking stuff, over the counter meds in case of weather/power cuts/illness etc But do it gradually so you don't fuck up supply lines. Do it early so you don't add to problems if you wait until things are more likely. (Going shopping when you are coming down with flu/COVID is neither good for you or anyone else

Eg : just add boiling water foods
Easy heat up foods (stuff you eat anyway)
Eat cold foods
Treat food/sweets
Lantern and torch/head lamp
Battery radio
Paracetamol, ibuprofen, decongestants, sore throat meds, diarrhoea meds, tissues.
Power bank and batteries
Warm clothes, hats, gloves, blankets, socks
Fire blanket
BBQ and fuel for cooking outside
Carbon monoxide monitor.
Entertainment that can keep kids busy while you are ill, or does not need power and much light.

War unlikely, winter bugs and illnesses almost certain! Power cuts/bad weather somewhere in between depending on location.

He wasn’t talking about nuking this morning. He was talking about retaliation in kind against military installations of any country supplying long range weapons to Ukraine for use on Russian targets. Military sources on the news this morning are saying it’s the clearest sign yet that he’s ready to act if he perceives an escalation due to ‘other state actors intervention’. And if he attacks a NATO country even with conventional weapons, we all know where that could lead.

One more question should be in there. Should the UK put itself in the firing line by supplying long range missiles capable of reaching deep into Russia and thereby escalating the conflict and giving Putin the excuse he’s been looking for to retaliate against a NATO country and triggering WW3 ?

I think it’s already a matter of public record.

One more question should be in there. Should the UK put itself in the firing line by supplying long range missiles capable of reaching deep into Russia and thereby escalating the conflict and giving Putin the excuse he’s been looking for to retaliate against a NATO country and triggering WW3 ?

I think the folly of Brexit has shown just how useful it is for the UK to be isolationist(!)

@Rosscameasdoody there are limits on how these weapons can be used. They are allowed to hit military targets only and within a specified parameter

You mean the same type of investment the US had in Afghanistan ?

And you think Putin will care about any of that ?

Or that there won't be instances of "whoops - alleged intelligence failure - soz".....

@Rosscameasdoody yes I do actually. He's a relic of the Cold War and he understands rules of engagement.