Should we be worried about war

[Seasidesand76]

Seen a lot in the news about Ukraine using USA missiles against Russia. I've been thinking more along the lines that it won't start a WW3 and will resolve at some point without the UK getting directly involved in war. But there seems to be more and more tension and threats of an all out war recently.

Should we be worried about WW3? I haven't been prepping or anything but does make me wonder if I should start getting a few days worth of food in case. At the same time I don't want to go down the prepper hole and start getting over the top.

Agree with this.

Putin also blackmails the mothers of young sons to keep them off the front line. There are families repeatedly paying thousands to the Russian government so that their child doesn't end up being used as a pawn in this awful war.

@Cnon that is a propaganda conspiracy website. Forgive me for not taking it seriously(!)

Yes. Though I’m more worried about Israel and any retaliation to them given we and the US clearly back their attacks. But the media won’t cover that.

Can you explain. Why do you think this will not end in ww3? What do you think will happen ?

I can’t answer for the other poster. This won’t end in a WW because no one wants that. Russia can’t afford it, China have slipped away quietly, the US want security not war and EU definitely have no appetite. So apart from Iran stoking it up - no major players are interested. That’s my view.

This will end in an uneasy truce. Russia will get the Dombass (probably) Ukraine will bolster their security by joining the alliances of the west.

😬

I'm so worried we are going to have to go through this all because nutters run countries and Biden should not be allowed to make big decisions now he lost the election, they should be able to get him out now on medical grounds, they should not have to wait,he's not all the ticket and is escalating things.

It's actually really scary times

Each time I watch the news I get freaked out.

It is. The news headlines

Sorry posted too soon. The news headlines are getting more scary an frequent every day at the moment

We shouldn't be even thinking of it. War in today's world, when we have everything to live nice lives without it? If only they would use the power and money to feed the world instead. So sad!

Did anyone living in the 70s/80s refer to the Cold War as that at the time or feel like they were living through a war? I ask as I feel this period in time will be reflected on as a time of war, it's going on already like many others before it - Iraq, Afghanistan etc.

An article on the BBC last night was mildly reassuring, that all of the sudden escalation is because both Ukraine and Russia are wanting to get in the best position for when Trump comes in and tries to negotiate. The side with the upper hand will get more of what it wants, and 'the west ' doesn't want that to be Russia.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jyvv1l99wo

Here's hoping for a more peaceful 2025, as a nation we have been bombarded with shit for so many years, we are still the lucky ones in our paradise but it all takes a mental toll - recessions, Covid, COL, then these wars all kicking off.

Well stop watching it! They are doing it quite deliberately to increase their viewing figures

Did anyone living in the 70s/80s refer to the Cold War as that at the time

Yes, and if you were a follower of news were aware of the various proxy wars that were going on around the globe, and also had also half a clue as to the tensions behind the Iron Curtain such as events in Poland in 1980.

You’ve listened to too much propaganda.

And you seem to have lost your empathy

One can possess empathy and the ability to recognise nonsense at the same time.

It ranks Ukraine 104th out of 180 countries in the world, so nowhere near the claim that the poster made and around the middle of the pack as I said. Nobody thinks Ukraine is without corruption, but the idea that it's one of the worst in the world is completely fanciful. The poster will not be able to back her assertion up, because it's bollocks.

Not sure where hemispheres comes into it, but even a quick look at the bottom of that list shows lots of northern hemisphere countries. Syria, South Sudan, Yemen, Afghanistan, North Korea, Libya and Haiti are all in the bottom dozen. Ukraine are not one of the most corrupt countries in the northern hemisphere either. You'd have to be using a very strangulated definition.

I’m sure those being bombed appreciate you calling it nonsense.

Biden is being advised by professional career politicians who have served time in military operations, not to mention being academics who will be giving him sensible advice.

If you think that the clowns who Trump is hiring this time around for Trump 2.0 would be able to run a piss up in a brewery or understand the first things about strategy or foreign policy then you'd be very foolish. He may as well have hired Mickey Mouse. Things are going to be much worse than last time he was president and I think the world will be less safe with him in power than it is now.

I felt same after reading some reports, it's looking increasingly worrying, and wondered if I should start getting a fee extra bits in, but I also think it's got to be resolved surely before it gets much worse it's quite scary with Russia, China and North Korea all run by nutballs. I then wonder how much of the news is fake and scaremongering people, as so many different reports saying different things 🤔 some obviously doing a good job at scaring us. Just pray that there is an end to this situation very soon 🙏🙏, I mean at moment we're lucky wee not in the middle of it, just feel for all the innocent people in Russia & Ukraine living in middle of this for last 2- 3 years, and also the Israelis and Palestinians. Just awful

@SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence

"Not sure where hemispheres comes into it, but even a quick look at the bottom of that list shows lots of northern hemisphere countries. Syria, South Sudan, Yemen, Afghanistan, North Korea, Libya and Haiti are all in the bottom dozen. Ukraine are not one of the most corrupt countries in the northern hemisphere either. You'd have to be using a very strangulated definition."

Ukraine is extremely corrupt, this is a fact and for any European nation to have a corruption ranking worse than say Zambia is inexcusable.

And being 104th out of 180 countries whilst claiming to be a normal western European democracy is fanciful.

No it's not actually. 'Extremely' isn't a factual term.

What is a fact, though, is that there's no data to back up the claim that it's one of the most corrupt countries in the world and it's not one of the most corrupt in the northern hemisphere. Which still leaves plenty of room for Ukraine to have a corruption problem, as indeed it does, so this is a very odd choice of hill for you to die on.

This Ukraine 'corruption' idea comes from the alternative right Qanon folk from 4chan etc.

Corruption certainly exists in Ukraine, and people are entitled to their own personal barometers on how much they find unacceptable, no argument with that unless they apply double standards. But the idea that it's anywhere near the worst is indeed some far right nonsense.

Not everyone who believes it is far right, but they do have to be gullible enough not to recognise it for what it is.